There's no need to forcefully argue with things like this because in the end they also definitely won't accept reality.
Reminding is indeed one of the commendable traits and must be done as long as we know then we must try to warn if that person made a mistake especially when investing in shitcoin but when they try hard to argue with all forms of arguments I think we have to let it go because when he does something like that then indirectly he definitely knows the consequences.
I have experienced conditions like this with neighbors in my neighborhood regarding the discussion of the pi coin.
He tried to persuade some of my friends but I prevented him from getting into an argument because I rejected many of the pi ideas he brought up and tried to remind him that such a thing was pointless.
But in the end he came back again he also stayed with his choice so I didn't have the right to make him leave but in another condition I managed to bring my friend back not to deal with Pi.
In this case, what I can see is if he really insists then let it be but when we try to discuss and are ready to accept all forms of opinion I can still respond but if not why do I have to waste a lot of energy reminding.
Topic: How to deal with shitcoiners without being harsh about reality. (Read 428 times)
We can't coerce everyone to do as we say since we have different belief. In this case, your friends are believing a particular shitcoin can outperform Bitcoin, then so be it. You don't have to insist what you think is right, what matter is you already inform them. Therefore the decision depends if they're going to take your advice or follow what they think is more realistic to happen based on their belief.
Anyway experience is still the best teacher since we can learn a lesson from it and that's also how we realized that investing in shitcoins are not a good idea. These people will realize their mistakes if they already experience this for themselves.
Anyway experience is still the best teacher since we can learn a lesson from it and that's also how we realized that investing in shitcoins are not a good idea. These people will realize their mistakes if they already experience this for themselves.
People continue to belive that some coins can bring them big profit and they buy such coins hoping in their future growth. But only some coins with developed ecosystem and big community have some potential.
Can we have more confidence though? lets be constructive about this dillema. Shitcoiners succeed in pushing people to buy their shit, there is no reason we cannot do a better job with a legitimate currency.
I understand your dilemma here. You are a good guy and want to lead your friends in the best investment possible. In my case, my friends do listen when I tell them it's not a good investment. Simple, because they know that I know better than them being in the cryptocurrency industry for a long time.
Maybe, the best you could do is set yourself up to have a hierarchy of knowledge in cryptocurrencies. Once they see that then they will doubt buying just anything in the market. Better, they might seek you out for advice.
I don't like having arguments with people who already closed their minds in listening to others especially those who are buying meme coins and supporting them with all of their life. Most of the time, I just ignore them and let them get rekt and that's when I wait for them to come back.
This is why it's a lot smarter if you could end up with a better result. It would be smart if people realized that it's going to make a big difference and should consider maybe we are doing the right thing already. Do not force people to get any decent coin, they should be able to do it themselves, and if they end up investing into a shitcoin that's their own issue and not ours, they will find the right path eventually.
We can't coerce everyone to do as we say since we have different belief. In this case, your friends are believing a particular shitcoin can outperform Bitcoin, then so be it. You don't have to insist what you think is right, what matter is you already inform them. Therefore the decision depends if they're going to take your advice or follow what they think is more realistic to happen based on their belief.
Anyway experience is still the best teacher since we can learn a lesson from it and that's also how we realized that investing in shitcoins are not a good idea. These people will realize their mistakes if they already experience this for themselves.
Anyway experience is still the best teacher since we can learn a lesson from it and that's also how we realized that investing in shitcoins are not a good idea. These people will realize their mistakes if they already experience this for themselves.
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Just leave them. It doesn't even matter how hard you try and shitcioners will never hear your suggestion. They will never hear what you said. The fact that if these days there are so many shitcoins that being harsh to the reality.
The only best thing to let them being scammed by stupid shit scam token. They will be realize if they have been scammed.
The only best thing to let them being scammed by stupid shit scam token. They will be realize if they have been scammed.
Why fight with altcoins in this market, if it is better to try to understand the system of manipulation and earn money. You only need to fight with scam and warn newbies about it. I believe that any project should have a chance, otherwise it contradicts all the principles of decentralization, but competent risk management must be observed when investing in altcoins.
Can we have more confidence though? lets be constructive about this dillema. Shitcoiners succeed in pushing people to buy their shit, there is no reason we cannot do a better job with a legitimate currency.
I understand your dilemma here. You are a good guy and want to lead your friends in the best investment possible. In my case, my friends do listen when I tell them it's not a good investment. Simple, because they know that I know better than them being in the cryptocurrency industry for a long time.
Maybe, the best you could do is set yourself up to have a hierarchy of knowledge in cryptocurrencies. Once they see that then they will doubt buying just anything in the market. Better, they might seek you out for advice.
I don't like having arguments with people who already closed their minds in listening to others especially those who are buying meme coins and supporting them with all of their life. Most of the time, I just ignore them and let them get rekt and that's when I wait for them to come back.
being harsh is okay if you could easily prevent your friend from losing money that way, though if you don't wanna go through the harsh way for the sake of preserving your friendship then simply let them knows the overall charts of all the shitcoins over the course of the years and let them finds out themselves how these shitcoin in general gonna fare in the future reflected from the current charts.
i'd say some time some people just don't really care about the fact that shitcoins could harm them unless they got harmed for real, their speculation is pointless because shitcoin in general full of speculation that surely put them
at the disadvantageous position in which they are more vulnerable towards losing.
only then your friend would know why shitcoin got its name.
i'd say some time some people just don't really care about the fact that shitcoins could harm them unless they got harmed for real, their speculation is pointless because shitcoin in general full of speculation that surely put them
at the disadvantageous position in which they are more vulnerable towards losing.
only then your friend would know why shitcoin got its name.
You don't need to go into fight with your friends. They are just having a wrong mindset and wrong orientation on bitcoin and therefore representing it falsefully. All you need is to reorientate them and show them the way to bitcoin. For all you may know some of those shit coins may not fall in 1-100 position in CMC, so send the link to CMC to your friend and let him view the position of the shits, price, volume and dominance and compare with bitcoin, the difference is clear.
Why not to be harsh about reality? If you want to face this matter and enlight your friends you have to be harsh about reality, there is no other way to deal with this issue. Of course you don't need to insult or offend anyone personally, but you have to be straight to show them the negative consequences they are going to suffer if they don't change their mindset regards crypto investments. Be polite while being true. They will thank you later!
I do not, let them learn the harsh reality themselves without us teaching them anything and if they are smart enough they will learn about it on the first try, if not then they are going to end up with a problem that will not be easy to solve and they will keep on losing until they learn. This isn't my job to teach them what to do, it is not going to end up with a good result for anyone and I think it is going to be very important to make a difference.
It is going to be something to care about, but what I do not fully understand is that if you are doing so many mistakes, then I need to get them and talk to them and make them understand the issue, I shouldn't be the one to care and I know people dislike that notion but it's the truth.
It is going to be something to care about, but what I do not fully understand is that if you are doing so many mistakes, then I need to get them and talk to them and make them understand the issue, I shouldn't be the one to care and I know people dislike that notion but it's the truth.
The best and most effective learning comes only after your own failures and financial losses. I have repeatedly noticed that if a person is given a lot of different matrials on the topic of investing in altcoins and their dangers, he will still make these mistakes, naively believing that this will not happen to him. People tend to think that they are smarter and luckier than others, so at the beginning of their trading or investment path they always lose money, even if they have been warned a thousand times not to do so. Hence the conclusion that shitcoiners can learn only from themselves, they do not perceive the rest of the information.
I don't know exactly how to NICELY tell my friends they are being delusional. How can I do this?
Breath. I am not sure why are you grouping all altcoins as shitcoins. That's going to be hard pill to sell for anyone paying attention. It sounds like you have gone from deep end to another deep end with extreme views. Focus on the coins that you can prove to be scams and stop grouping them all as one. It's extremely hostile attitude to diss all altcoins and it makes you sound like you didn't do any research. So i am not sure who is delusional in this story.Only thing you can do is accept and own your mistakes. Inform your friends about the scams by offering proof. After that let them make their own mistakes.
Can we have more confidence though? lets be constructive about this dillema. Shitcoiners succeed in pushing people to buy their shit, there is no reason we cannot do a better job with a legitimate currency.
The problem you and all of us which at some point tried to discourage someone else from investing in a scam in any market is that those scammers can lie all they want while we only have the truth.And the truth can be very bitter while lies can be very sweet, and we see examples of this all the time on even more important scenarios, like those which are diagnosed with a terminal disease and they are willing to believe that a scammer can cure them, those which join cults and so on, so it speaks nicely of you that you are trying to help your friends but you need to prepare yourself for the very real possibility they are not going to listen to you.
Am I being delusional for thinking I can change their mind in an actionable way?
I do not, let them learn the harsh reality themselves without us teaching them anything and if they are smart enough they will learn about it on the first try, if not then they are going to end up with a problem that will not be easy to solve and they will keep on losing until they learn. This isn't my job to teach them what to do, it is not going to end up with a good result for anyone and I think it is going to be very important to make a difference.
It is going to be something to care about, but what I do not fully understand is that if you are doing so many mistakes, then I need to get them and talk to them and make them understand the issue, I shouldn't be the one to care and I know people dislike that notion but it's the truth.
It is going to be something to care about, but what I do not fully understand is that if you are doing so many mistakes, then I need to get them and talk to them and make them understand the issue, I shouldn't be the one to care and I know people dislike that notion but it's the truth.
Yeah its better for them to learn the harsh reality of crypto since if we disturb them while they are so committed on the shitcoin they are investing maybe they will just ignore us and worst they might think that we are stopping them to get rich. This is how newbie think and they always think that those people invite them are trusted also the group they belong even if we know that they are scam are honest for them.
So better they realize that this is not how crypto supposed to be and research is always important to learn about what is good to invest and not for them.
I do not, let them learn the harsh reality themselves without us teaching them anything and if they are smart enough they will learn about it on the first try, if not then they are going to end up with a problem that will not be easy to solve and they will keep on losing until they learn. This isn't my job to teach them what to do, it is not going to end up with a good result for anyone and I think it is going to be very important to make a difference.
It is going to be something to care about, but what I do not fully understand is that if you are doing so many mistakes, then I need to get them and talk to them and make them understand the issue, I shouldn't be the one to care and I know people dislike that notion but it's the truth.
It is going to be something to care about, but what I do not fully understand is that if you are doing so many mistakes, then I need to get them and talk to them and make them understand the issue, I shouldn't be the one to care and I know people dislike that notion but it's the truth.
You seems to be not happy, the key of happy life is avoid to talk with people who will drain your energy. So if you don't like about people talking about shitcoins in this forum, you can click ignore on their account. If you talk about people in real life, it's either avoid those shitcoiners or avoid to talk about cryptocurrency because their mind are thinking about shitcoins.
I myself have come to an absolute conviction from my personal experience that all altcoin (not just shitcoins.) is just worthless rubbish, the only real value is in bitcoin.
So I decided to get rid of all the shitcoins and started my long-term Bitcoin DCA strategy.
So I decided to get rid of all the shitcoins and started my long-term Bitcoin DCA strategy.
This pretty much sounds like "how to deal with people and things I don't like anymore"... Well, the harsh reality is some people change and some don't, some people accept changes some fight against them, some people grow up, and some don't. That's growing up, we learn as long as we live... if we are smart, we question our actions, and we think about how to be better... Simply said we either make progress and we advance, or we are sinking.
So how to deal with this? Well, as some other people said with honesty! Share your honest thinking, provide arguments, and if someone accepts it's good... if not just move on.
I am not a religious person, but this explains a lot:
So how to deal with this? Well, as some other people said with honesty! Share your honest thinking, provide arguments, and if someone accepts it's good... if not just move on.
I am not a religious person, but this explains a lot:
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God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference
Just tell them straight facts if they cannot accept it and feel bad on what information you shared to them at least you try to warn them. But if they continue even you already share your thoughts and stated your concern then let them continue and they should see for theirselves that you are right then they messed up for the wrong investment decision they do and for sure next time they would be more careful on their decision making on investing on new alts they want to invest.
it's essential to be upfront and honest. Educate them about the risks and drawbacks associated with 'shitcoins.' Show them the facts and encourage them to do thorough research. Sometimes, a dose of reality can be eye-opening.
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