How to detect a scammer with grabify.link

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 30, 2023, 11:31:50 AM

with this you can be able to see the scammer IP address, location, browser and even the device the scammer is using to scam people.
I believe that this will be of good help to many of us.

What if the scammer already knows about it and doesn't open the link at all? And as everyone said already, only someone who is a newbie in scamming might make such mistakes but most of them will have their IP addresses hidden with paid VPNs or softwares that frequently change their IP address and other location metrics, so that even if they are traced by someone, they don't get the correct location and are misguided through the wrong details.

And, newbies don't really need to be doing this but they should simply learn to not trust anyone or anything online very easily because the world of internet is full of scams and frauds, and especially, offers and promotions and investment opportunities that sound too good to be true are obviously not true.

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This will not work if someone is using a paid or quality VPN. It only shows the IP of the user system that clicks on the generated link. Also, no scammer would click on any link sent by you instead they want you to click on their links and even if you have their actual IP and location, you can't do anything. I see you had a great intention while making this thread however in the actual real world, it's kinda useless.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on October 31, 2023, 07:00:16 AM

Quote from: Yamane_Keto on October 31, 2023, 05:46:20 AM

If you want to avoid scam, be prepared to ask many questions before sending. Only send to an escrow or to someone you can trust.

You can make your life easier by choosing another trade partner. I do not want to waste my time by asking many questions for a simple trade that can be done quickly.

Sometimes the available options are limited and you are forced to make the transaction. It is rare to find someone who has high trust, is online most of the time, and has a good exchange rate. Mostly, those with low trust are the ones who offer better exchange rates or services to attract customers. Sometimes the risk saves you a few dollars and maybe makes it easier for you to be scammed.
It is true that it is almost impossible to avoid scam but at least do not let them scam you more than once.

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This is a good findings by OP. It can guide newbies and other members from falling victim of scam sites but I was thinking if with this grabify one can know the scam site license issuer, day of creation, expiration and renewal if any. On the other, I was also thinking of scammers would be that dumb to expose their location when carrying their act. They more sophisticated mechanism put in place to detect scammers, the more sophisticated they go too because I believe they too would not want to be caught in the act so they would be vigilant to protect themselves and their work. This could possibly work on newbie scammers.

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It is too hard to see your image better to make it clear with the text caption on the image, so still visible to the eye of the reader, next is after you identify the scammer's IP address at the end of the day you ca do anything not unless it's nearby in your place, but only noob will commit of scamming without using VPN expect they can travel around in just a second. If you made another mistake with the reverse engineering another mistake on your side if you get fall.

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Short URL links are automatically a red flag for me, so I won't dare visit the link in the first place, like I would have created a warning message about visiting short links online instead of your write up OP.

Also scammers are not stupid to use their normal location when trying to scam people, they always use VPN and even advanced premium tools, scammers are of different levels, they don't think the same way and they all have different access to different scamming tools and tricks.

Also, lets believe that this works on the scammers, how is this information going to get them arrested? What is the purpose of getting your hands on their location? For real I am not impressed with your write up, you should have do better, there is nothing to gain from having the information, it's just better to stay away.

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Quote from: Yamane_Keto on October 31, 2023, 05:46:20 AM

If you want to avoid scam, be prepared to ask many questions before sending. Only send to an escrow or to someone you can trust.

You can make your life easier by choosing another trade partner. I do not want to waste my time by asking many questions for a simple trade that can be done quickly.

Avoid offers which are too good to be true is one of golden rules to keep you away from scammers. By this, you also reduce questions you might have to ask yourself or your trade partner.

Using Escrow service is a good advice and even with Escrow, only release your bitcoin if you already received payment from a trade partner. Without payment, no release. Under any kind of pressure from your trade partner, don't release. Because creating pressure is art of scammers.

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Let's assume that you knew the scammer's IP address and were unable to hide this address. What would you do with this information? The IP address will provide you with basic information such as the country, geolocation, and at best a map of the user’s movements, and without cooperating with the service provider or with law enforcement agencies in your country, the IP address is not sufficient to access information such as home address, name, phone number, or any personal information.

This is whether scammer is in your country but what will happen if he is in another country. Here you need security cooperation between the two countries or an attempt to arrest him using INTERPOL, which are things that will not happen if someone defrauds you of $100.

I do not want to be pessimistic, but even if you know personal information such as his real name, passport and home address, you may not easily be able to recover the money.

If you want to avoid scam, be prepared to ask many questions before sending. Only send to an escrow or to someone you can trust.

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Quote from: Cantsay on October 30, 2023, 12:22:54 PM

Wait, will this grabify.link show you the real ip address of someone that has his/her vpn connected? Or will it just display the Ip of the vpn that’s connected?

I feel this should even be more useful for those scammer that are using social media platform to try to deceive people into believing they are someone that they’re not rather than just narrowing it to crypto scammers only.

From what I see it doesn't have the capacity to expose the real IP address of a scammer using a VPN and.scammers can easily use it to their advantage to deceive their victims believing that the location and IP they have been shown by the grabify.link is the actual details.

Things like this not careful used with you can end up going south for a user that depends on it. I think we just have to avoid any suspicious link we're not cool with. In this internet space if we create the attitude of avoidance we would be saving ourselves from avoidable risks that ordinary people encounters.

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Instead, the OP could have warned forum users not to follow all short links, although, if I'm not mistaken, the forum doesn't allow short links anyway. Users following such links not only end up on phishing sites but also reveal their data, after which an attack XSS can be carried out. But by sending such links, you are no different from the people who use them, and do not think that these people do not know about such tricks and do not protect their devices.

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Quote from: mk4 on October 30, 2023, 08:44:16 PM

This is definitely a decent way of gaining information about a scammer. But after you get his/her IP address, what now? What's your proposed next step?

Also, this will mostly work on inexperienced script kiddies. A decent scammer will most likely use IP-masking software.

If I am not scammed but I know he is a scammer, I block him.

If I am not a White-hat hacker, a security expert, I have no interest to keep tracing a scammer. Because like your point, I can not do anything with a scammer and a professional scammer knows to mask his IP address with VPS or Tor and with my limited skills, I can not break down traces, connect dots from that scammer history on Internet.

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This is definitely a decent way of gaining information about a scammer. But after you get his/her IP address, what now? What's your proposed next step?

Also, this will mostly work on inexperienced script kiddies. A decent scammer will most likely use IP-masking software.

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I don't see trying to interact with a scammer is a good choice. If you are not a security expert, you should never do this. Because the scammer might be smarter than you, have deeper security knowledge than you and by interacting with a scammer, your device can be infected. You never knows what the scammer tries to trap you but when you know it, maybe you already have to bear serious consequences.

If I feel a person I am communicating with is a scammer, I left the conversation, erase the history and block it.

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Find the IP and what device the scammer used I think it's useless because the scammer is always using a VPN only a dumb scammer will let you know the IP and device he uses.

Another thing is the guide seems came from this link below.

- https://gadgetstouse.com/blog/2023/05/23/find-scammer-location-ip-address/

However, you can still use the IP even if he uses a VPN if you get help from some professional who knows more about tracking they can find what scammer use and request IP logs from the VPN provider.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 30, 2023, 02:02:54 PM

Quote from: boyptc on October 30, 2023, 01:25:50 PM

I suggest to increase the size of the images that you've included for everyone to see it easily. I have to zoom it for 4-5 times to see and read it at a minimal level.

Btw, it's interesting that it tracks the IP address whether it's a fake or real one. But if it just shows the VPN IP address of the person you're trying to track or the website that he owns, that's still no use I guess.

I haven't heard of this website before so this is still new to me and I'll check it for myself as well.

Thanks rachael.

The site is a bit useful, as if it can easily detect a scammer that doesn't use any VPN connection to scam people. Although it is very hard to see such scammers, I still believe that there are some scammers that are new. However, they are not too underrated because they can do the undo with their little experience.

Thanks for those additional info.

As long as it's giving info for those that are looking for those websites that have scammed them, it's already helpful. But as you've said, some of the scammers might not hide their IPs so they're the ones that are new and not aware of such.

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Quote from: Cantsay on October 30, 2023, 12:22:54 PM

Wait, will this grabify.link show you the real ip address of someone that has his/her vpn connected? Or will it just display the Ip of the vpn that’s connected?

I feel this should even be more useful for those scammer that are using social media platform to try to deceive people into believing they are someone that they’re not rather than just narrowing it to crypto scammers only.

Well, I haven't tried it with any VPN connection, but I have a little more doubt that it will show the real IP address instead of the VPN IP address.

Quote from: boyptc on October 30, 2023, 01:25:50 PM

I suggest to increase the size of the images that you've included for everyone to see it easily. I have to zoom it for 4-5 times to see and read it at a minimal level.

Btw, it's interesting that it tracks the IP address whether it's a fake or real one. But if it just shows the VPN IP address of the person you're trying to track or the website that he owns, that's still no use I guess.

I haven't heard of this website before so this is still new to me and I'll check it for myself as well.

Thanks rachael.

The site is a bit useful, as if it can easily detect a scammer that doesn't use any VPN connection to scam people. Although it is very hard to see such scammers, I still believe that there are some scammers that are new. However, they are not too underrated because they can do the undo with their little experience.

Quote from: SamReomo on October 30, 2023, 01:26:49 PM

Quote from: Cantsay on October 30, 2023, 12:22:54 PM

Wait, will this grabify.link show you the real ip address of someone that has his/her vpn connected? Or will it just display the Ip of the vpn that’s connected?

I feel this should even be more useful for those scammer that are using social media platform to try to deceive people into believing they are someone that they’re not rather than just narrowing it to crypto scammers only.

It will definititely show the VPN IP if someone is using a VPN. Ah, I don't think that a scammer is stupid enough to use his/her real IP to perform his/her scamming activities. Scammers usually are good at using technology and they are skilled in many things that qualify them as hackers as well and it's not easy to know their exact IP details because they can hide it using a VPN.

Scammers do not use their real IP address because some of them are very good at scamming people, more especially the crypto scammers, because there are a lot of untraceable crypto wallets.

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The OP's suggestion can be applied on the ones who aren't aware about VPN's and the ones who may be using a VPN to perform those activities then it would be waste of time to convince them to click that grabifiy.link's generated URL. I still think that it's good to track the ones who are newbie in scamming business.

However, most scammers believe that their victims do not have the mentality to detect them, so if any like is sent to them, it will be very easy for them to click on it because they don't expect their fatality to detect them with just a link.
Yes, it is true that newbie scammers will be easy to detect with this grabify.link site because most of them haven't heard about VPN.

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I can't see a thing in your images. Please resize those images first. By the way, how are you sure that the website is real? I mean, how are you sure if it's showing you the real IP address, location, device ID, etc.? Have you actually tested it on your phone or computer? I suggest you test it first, if not. If you have, then surely it will be of great help to locate a scammer. I have seen a similar tool in a telegram bot. You have to host an image, give the hosting link to the bot. And it will use some kind of tool inject the code and give you a new link. When you send that link to a person if he clicks on that, you'll get all his information.

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Quote from: Cantsay on October 30, 2023, 12:22:54 PM

Wait, will this grabify.link show you the real ip address of someone that has his/her vpn connected? Or will it just display the Ip of the vpn that’s connected?

I feel this should even be more useful for those scammer that are using social media platform to try to deceive people into believing they are someone that they’re not rather than just narrowing it to crypto scammers only.

It will definititely show the VPN IP if someone is using a VPN. Ah, I don't think that a scammer is stupid enough to use his/her real IP to perform his/her scamming activities. Scammers usually are good at using technology and they are skilled in many things that qualify them as hackers as well and it's not easy to know their exact IP details because they can hide it using a VPN.

The OP's suggestion can be applied on the ones who aren't aware about VPN's and the ones who may be using a VPN to perform those activities then it would be waste of time to convince them to click that grabifiy.link's generated URL. I still think that it's good to track the ones who are newbie in scamming business.

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I suggest to increase the size of the images that you've included for everyone to see it easily. I have to zoom it for 4-5 times to see and read it at a minimal level.

Btw, it's interesting that it tracks the IP address whether it's a fake or real one. But if it just shows the VPN IP address of the person you're trying to track or the website that he owns, that's still no use I guess.

I haven't heard of this website before so this is still new to me and I'll check it for myself as well.

Thanks rachael.

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Wait, will this grabify.link show you the real ip address of someone that has his/her vpn connected? Or will it just display the Ip of the vpn that’s connected?

I feel this should even be more useful for those scammer that are using social media platform to try to deceive people into believing they are someone that they’re not rather than just narrowing it to crypto scammers only.

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