Topic: How to determine the Total Supply of an unlisted Token? (Read 302 times)

As per GeckoTerminal, current price is $0.000005423.

On August 1, 2023, price was $0.0000004766.

So, in just 5 months, $SEC did 11x... and the bull run has just begun.

They will most likely add it soon, as several new chains are still under development. Arkham is also a new project that still needs a lot of development.



If the project developer is a scam then they will not fully disclose it and also the whitepaper that is made is a fake whitepaper. There are many tools that can be used to research new projects in detail. so don't worry about the project to be followed.

This indeed a good platform where you can see the supply of a new project based on their created contract. Though you can just see this on their whitepaper, or directly asked the project developer since they will disclose it too. The total supply of the project matters the most if you’re an investor, always look for this details before investing.

Arkham Intelligence does not seem to cover either PulseChain or Base chain as of yet. These are the two most happening chain right now.

In another news, the token I originally enquired about, seems to be holding well in this bearish trend so far.

https://v2-app.pulsex.com/info/token/0xab4242c0420d175e39bD0CC049263B920E4bCE17

That is pretty good advice. I also use Dexscreener to track all purchases or track contracts created by new projects. Just need to filter it and everything will be caught. But there are also some new tools like Arkham Intelligence which can look at all transactions at their root, you should also give it a try. It is backed by binance and is a popular intelligence tool for tracking cryptos today

Most likely you are looking for a telegram channel that calls them an alpha investors which they share new microcaps project for early buy from their followers.

You can use dexcreener and filter base on the time the smart contract created. Dexscreener tracks all the newly created token smart contracts on every chain including the liquidity volume on the pool.

Do you happen to know, by any change if there are telegram/discord groups that monitor and chats about new microcaps they monitor with dex tracker? PM me a link if you know and want to share. I sometimes use these trackers but it's hard work doing everything by yourself and i am missing gems all the time. I feel like my changes were higher if there would be a more eyes looking at them and weeding out the trash which is most of them.

You could always end up getting them whenever you want, it all depends on the money you have. Obviously not all the people in the world will do that, but it could be done and it's fine. They have paid for it and they have a right to do it. If they paid for this then they have a right to share it, and you can ignore it and not read it and we can just move on, that's what I do and I find it pretty useless to spend that kind of money on those things, but at the end of the day we are talking about something that they paid for so they will of course want to make it get better.

This should be the most important case here, it should be a big deal when the time comes and we want to do some marketing as well, and we need people to enjoy it.

Not only you knew people with cases like that. People should really be cautious on everything they do about investment like that. So whats your point? We should stop risking on trendy catch these days? I know you are suggesting but you cant stop some people from investing that they think got some worth in the future. If they catch a knife they know the consequence of it. The only bad part there is the newbies who blindly just imitate without even studying first or doing due diligences.

Well anything is possible. Theres a lot of tools nowadays for monitoring and even checking the footrpint on chain. Some even did copy trading on these wallets that scout a good tokens. Plus there are plenty of bots to choose from though Im not using one. The point is why you cant accept sometime that this impossible gains are possible on these meme? Can you be happy some have gained on this? We all knew losses are part of it but thats part of taking risk. If youll advise some to avoid meme or any token for potential loss then why not suggest a stablecoin instead that doesnt have volatility.

Thats your style mate and its good you are very cautious. Its good that you have a dynamics like that but we cant force anyone to do the same like you wanted too cause they have also their sense of style. Now these degen people cant be criticized because they dont have an approach like what you did cause that would be too judgemental on your part.

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PS: I am an altcoin trader, holder, investor too. That bnb you mentioned I have holdings of it. Aside from those memecoins that I short time trade for profits and alts that has potential.

You are righ untill you will be wrong. we are a moment after the bubble on meme coins. I personally know people who quit their jobs after the 2017 ICO bubble because they were so good at finding new ICOs. unfortunately then came 2018, 2019 and 2020 and their entire bag went to zero along with the DCA they did in 2018, 2019 and they put the family in debt.


it's definitely impossible, when creating a new scam coin to send $100 in it to some other address and in case of success have an blockchain proof for article right?


I trade altcoins too but I always try to find a real value and a price way below it. That's how i look for investment - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53299809
This thread was made in 2019 when BNB was @15$. I prepared profit estimates in 2 ways, I calculated fundamental analysis indicators and compared them with nasdaq, I calculated the return on token ownership (called it "net dividend", rewards minus inflation on the token) and compared with what the competition offers.

You go with "ohh what a nice name ... yolo"

Maybe some stories there arent real ofcourse I know marketing strategy like that. But gotta tell you that I myself doing some of these degen trading and not only me but bunch of my collegueas and friends. They did earned huge winning. This is my actual friend so get loss with those babbling articles cause even me myself so those in my own wallet and theres. Of course not exaggerated not in the articles. Just because its really happening doesnt mean its just stories and paid whatnot. Also Im also familiar with the on chain transaction and I believe those whom I see myself including the entry price on chain and the sold price in the blockchain not in paragraphs on coindesk or whatever.

Yeah spreading some scam memecoins that are indeed proven is worth to report too. But for those normal ones maybe its just inappropriate to say dogecoin, shiba inu, or other progress are scam just because you read one. In fact if they are scam then these big cex wouldnt listed that. Can I ask if you trade other than bitcoin? Cause its sounded like youve been scammed by altcoins many times over.

Yeah you said yourself. That its a free world and I am entitled to those right to tell you that not all memecoin are scams. Maybe few but dont considered all just because you hate it.

These are all paid articles with money raised from previous scams. You can publish any article you wont on sites like WSJ, cointelegrph, yahoo finance, marketwatch, bloomberg etc for less than 2000$. 1 article of this type costs $ 2,000 and the legend about it circulates for years.

besides, even if it's true that some retailer turned $100 into $10 million (which i doubt), it's a zero sum game. This is not a stock company share and return on investment comes from the product supplied and sold by the company to people willing to use it. If he get this, orthers had to lose it. meme coins are pure evil.


it's a free world and cexies are listing these coins because people want to trade them. It's not my job to write to the cex to give up profits at the expense of competitors (who will take those profits). My task is to inform people that playing with meme coins brings profits inadequate to the risks and harms the entire industry. So that they wouldn't want to touch that cesspool. Cexy will quickly delist projects that do not bring the expected volumes.

Well as if you pointing out that you are 100% correct with all what you say though? Dogecoin is the founder of memecoin. Obviously when we say it meme its practically a joke isnt it. Whether its dogecoin or any anime based meme, we all knew its total utilization is like for fun but since its being trade on the market like other altcoins and even bitcoin. Then if you really that dissaprove of memecoin, maybe put up a word with sites like coingecko, coinmarketcap to avoid sharing and spreading details about these memecoins and others since these are harmful does it mean they supported evil incarnate projects?

Yes maybe something like that of guy. But how about retailers who just bet their money on meme, or those who simply got lucky and gain profits? I guess you shouldnt include them or yet generalize all do meme are developers who jump ship to ship for profits and do rugpulls. Theres a difference, since some degens are just doing gambling with these memecoins or shitcoins to earn money too not too scam anyone and some arent even developers so how can you justify only yacht manufacturers only getting fruits from it. I dont know find some stories on social media like a simple guy who trade memes and won huge profits.

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If trading memecoins is a sin for us then let all cex and dex delisted those projects cause they are harmful to the market industry right. Only trade bitcoin cause its the only legit one. What odds that this will happen in the future?

seriously? are you trying to undermine the fact that meme coins are evil incarnate that harms the entire industry by bringing here dogecoin and elon, who wrote a few tweets about it for a joke/price manipulation? Did you know that elon also wrote about cumrocket? did you know that elon has had many lawsuits from the SEC related to market manipulation. but okay if you want to talk about dogecoin, say what problems dogecoin solves and how much worse the world would be without it.
Dogecoin is a joke, but beware, unlike other memecoins, it was a joke told for the first time and thus it was a funny joke. And the fact that there were only a handful of altcoins on the market at the time (rather than 1.8 million today) made him unique in his approach. What can not be said about other meme coins.


I know this type of guy. This is a person who, playing roulette, also thinks that he knows what he is doing because he won 3 times in a row. Unfortunately, he loses everything in the next 2 throws. and why do I care about demonizing meme coins even though it's not my money that is being lost? because it's money that ends up in the hands of scammers and is used to make bigger scams. And everyone suffers from this, except for manufacturers of yachts and luxury watches.

You don't need to worry about it too much. It's a memecoin, and you can either invest in it or not, it's your choice.

How about dogecoin? This is a memecoin and if youll say that this is worthless at all then why its on the top marketcap and why the smart Elon Musk taking this project as good and even used it for payment on a brand called Tesla? Thats a fact too. If its a scam then not everybody will agree with you.

Gambling on casino and memecoins involved both money and risk. The only difference is the "DEGEN" or people who knew of this risk are aware of it they just gambling on a literally high risk environment. Would you called them stupid for doing so if they knew what they are doing? Maybe they will replied to you get loss, its not your money cause we know what we are dealign with. The problem here are those newbies who joined that is not aware of the consequence. I respect that you dont want to let those who loss suffer more. Me too but Im telling you, if this can be stop this has been stopped years ago. But what can we do we live in a decentralized space where scammers are included in adopting blockchain and crypto.

How can we filter those scammers on decentralized space? Just total avoidance right but it cant be stopped. So doing centralized like cex who asked for might limit it but again there are some who dont like it cause its not right on decentralization. Whatever sides there still be none winner in terms of cause and effect.

There are facts and there are opinions. The sentence that meme coins are a scam, are created to extort money and harm the entire industry is a fact. meme coins don't produce anything, they don't solve anyone's problems don't develop the industry. Give one example that proves otherwise. The fact that someone once got lucky and made money on it is not proof that meme coins are good, because it is a zero-sum game (meaning someone else lost). In fact, it's not even a zero-sum game because the creator of the meme coin is cutting his cut. in most cases almost everything.


No one likes to be scammed, but you need to know what a scam is in order not to be scammed. Meme coins are scams. Gamble^2 because in normal gamble you can calculate odds of winning. here you don't know when scammers will rugpull all your money. You don't know how much you can win, you don't know what the odds of winning are, how big house edge is.

Unfortunately, the vision of quick profits attracts people and calling it "investing" or "trading" makes them let go of the brakes and so they would enter the casino with a maximum of $ 100 (because "its gambling and i'm not a gambler"), but they will go to look for meme coins with $10,000 (because "I'm investing now"), then do DCA with another $40 000 loosing family savings. Have you ever wondered what tragedies in many families meme coins creates? Have you ever wondered how many people have already committed suicide because of these scammers? "trying to find a new pepe fast" only gives them capital to make another scam with much better marketing, paid listing on bigger exchanges, more fake fallowers, more paid articles, more washtrading to show big volume etc.

therefore, in accordance with my conscience, I advise against meme coins whenever I can. You can write that "some people make money on it", but in my opinion its wrong. At the casino, some people also make money, moments before they lose everything. Only the casino is honest about its house edge. Memecoin scammers don't.

Remember if the token is centralized e.g. using Proof Of Stake, the node are controlled by few miners, the developer can burn the token etc, there's no point to know the total supply of the token since the developer can just increase the total supply as they're not decentralized in the first place.

This already happen in many tokens, that's why you should need to think about it.

Then thats not a strategy you give but a total hindrance for those who want to trade memecoin. You cant really force someone not to trade especially when they are gaining some profits on memecoin. Just because some others got scammed and other rugpulls. Yes theres a lot of bad blood in the memecoins but, do you think we like to be scam? Thats what you called risky gamble on a crypto.

Im also investing on good major altcoins and even bitcoin so I knew my fair share of experiences among these shitcoins and innovative coins.

Its your right anyway and opinion. But surely there will some who will disagree with you too and has their own opinion.

Wrong. The best memecoin trading strategy is to not trade memecoins at all and stay away from anyone who is shilling memecoins. there are many wonderful things you can do with money. Filling the pockets of scammers in the hope of selling a hot potato quickly enough is not one of them. people should invest in innovative technologies or safe returns (dividend aristocrats) and not gamble with unknown probability of success/failure on meme coins.

I will repeat ad nauseam under every thread about meme coins until people stop talking about them, because in my opinion, trading this garbage hurts the entire industry by sucking capital from innovative technologies and ridiculing people investing here.