How to get free Bitcoin by exploiting a DASH InstantX - page 3.

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Quote from: generalizethis on April 18, 2015, 06:14:58 AM

I'm glad scams and privacy are a joke to you. They're not to me.

You might have a point if you had created the value and he had "instamined" it.

As it his, he created the value and everybody else benefited.

So give the faux outrage a break. Markets will sort out how much it matters.

Jeff8247

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There's nothing I despise more than a moanero troll in the crypto world. I don't think they realise there damaging the crypto world as a whole with their non stop fud. I mean if I was fresh money there's no way I'd invest in any coin...

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

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Quote from: generalizethis on April 18, 2015, 04:06:01 AM

I want to publicly confront him

LoL !

You should get yourself a uniform Wink

(And start with yourself for promoting bookkeeping software as money)

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Quote from: astrobitcoin on April 18, 2015, 04:01:33 AM

lol seems like you are not able to continue discussion and start asking the first off topic crap that comes in your mind, really mature and great arguments

Actually, he's the one who did the mining, so when he pops his head out on a thread, I want to publicly confront him and get a straight answer-- I've heard from his apologist, I want to hear it straight from him.

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lol seems like you are not able to continue discussion and start asking the first off topic crap that comes in your mind, really mature and great arguments

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Facts are more efficient than fud

Quote from: eduffield on April 18, 2015, 12:42:56 AM

Quote from: FryMaple on April 17, 2015, 07:55:43 PM

Quote from: eduffield on April 17, 2015, 05:25:58 PM

Quote from: FryMaple on April 16, 2015, 11:13:00 AM

This attack could, of course never be carried out on ~~any Proof of Work network~~ InstantX.

You should look at the code and read the whitepaper, because it deals with this exact situation. Nice try though...

Quote from: FryMaple on April 16, 2015, 11:13:00 AM

This attack could, of course, be carried out on any Proof of Work network.

Why did you change my quote? Are you saying Dash doesn't accept the longest blockchain?

Correct. If you get a successful lock on a transaction, conflicting blocks are outright rejected.

Read the code here:
https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L2849

You realize we have a testnet with very low hashrate? You could try this, Feel free.

Did you use a testnet when you accidentally mined all those coins? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.100

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Quote from: FryMaple on April 17, 2015, 07:55:43 PM

Quote from: eduffield on April 17, 2015, 05:25:58 PM

Quote from: FryMaple on April 16, 2015, 11:13:00 AM

This attack could, of course never be carried out on ~~any Proof of Work network~~ InstantX.

You should look at the code and read the whitepaper, because it deals with this exact situation. Nice try though...

Quote from: FryMaple on April 16, 2015, 11:13:00 AM

This attack could, of course, be carried out on any Proof of Work network.

Why did you change my quote? Are you saying Dash doesn't accept the longest blockchain?

Correct. If you get a successful lock on a transaction, conflicting blocks are outright rejected.

Read the code here:
https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L2849

You realize we have a testnet with very low hashrate? You could try this, Feel free.

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Quote from: eduffield on April 17, 2015, 05:25:58 PM

Quote from: FryMaple on April 16, 2015, 11:13:00 AM

This attack could, of course never be carried out on ~~any Proof of Work network~~ InstantX.

You should look at the code and read the whitepaper, because it deals with this exact situation. Nice try though...

Quote from: FryMaple on April 16, 2015, 11:13:00 AM

This attack could, of course, be carried out on any Proof of Work network.

Why did you change my quote? Are you saying Dash doesn't accept the longest blockchain?

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Quote from: FryMaple on April 16, 2015, 11:13:00 AM

This attack could, of course never be carried out on ~~any Proof of Work network~~ InstantX.

You should look at the code and read the whitepaper, because it deals with this exact situation. Nice try though...

Jeff8247

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LOL trolls at it again. Nice try guys!

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This topic made me laugh Grin

It looks like this guy suggests to send bitcoin from testnet to normal blockchain Grin

if you mine offline you'll fork the chain by yourself, it's not gonna matter if you use instantx or not. Main chain doesn't recognize your offline mined coins Wink

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Quote from: cloudboy on April 17, 2015, 02:50:11 PM

Quote from: kaene on April 17, 2015, 02:17:28 PM

Every time I find a new method to get free Bitcoin, the first thing I do is to create a new forum account and publish it publicly, I mean, who would keep secretly a working money printer that works?

Lol Wtf Maybe he doesn't want to steal peoples money

And that's why he made it public ... with a new account ... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: kaene on April 17, 2015, 02:17:28 PM

Every time I find a new method to get free Bitcoin, the first thing I do is to create a new forum account and publish it publicly, I mean, who would keep secretly a working money printer that works?

Lol Wtf Maybe he doesn't want to steal peoples money

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Every time I find a new method to get free Bitcoin, the first thing I do is to create a new forum account and publish it publicly, I mean, who would keep secretly a working money printer that works?

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Put in a ton of work and investment to possibly get a reward that won't even cover the investment? Anyone with a brain will require multiple confirmations for large transactions. All you've done here is show that this attack would be a waste of time.

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Quote from: jasemoney on April 17, 2015, 09:28:41 AM

OK!
so who ends up with the money, obviously you broadcast 2 transactions. would first payment to your 4th wallet end up being included in a block in the the future since its out there in other mempools, what about the 2nd over to "shapeshift"
when do broadcast transactions get tossed out of the mempool, when theyre included in a block?

We deal with mini-forks all day long in POS coins, orphans etc. you can respend on a pos coin after 1 confirm. I havent seen an army of pitchforks lifted against this. wouldnt it cause the same issue?

You end up with BTC and your original dash wallet. Shapeshift ends up with nothing.

Yes they leave the mempool when they are accepted.

This mini-fork issue is exactly the reason you require many confirms before you can spend coins. It doesn't even have to be an attack to find 1 block it didn't know about and cancel your mined block. Requiring only 1 block confirmation is very dangerous.

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OK!
so who ends up with the money, obviously you broadcast 2 transactions. would first payment to your 4th wallet end up being included in a block in the the future since its out there in other mempools, what about the 2nd over to "shapeshift"
when do broadcast transactions get tossed out of the mempool, when theyre included in a block?

We deal with mini-forks all day long in POS coins, orphans etc. you can respend on a pos coin after 1 confirm. I havent seen an army of pitchforks lifted against this. wouldnt it cause the same issue?

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Quote from: coinmaster222 on April 17, 2015, 03:44:35 AM

I know where this topic is going lol but you would have to own 51% of the staking coins in an attack on a POS coin like CRAVE.Very unlikely.For the likes of Bitcoin it is now virtually impossible to perform a 51 attack a Government could not do it never mind some individuals

CRAVE dev already acknowledged this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11113415

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I know where this topic is going lol but you would have to own 51% of the staking coins in an attack on a POS coin like CRAVE.Very unlikely.For the likes of Bitcoin it is now virtually impossible to perform a 51 attack a Government could not do it never mind some individuals

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