Topic: How to handle accounts scraping the barrel for merits and recognition? (Read 375 times)

Man, a Jr. Member, has made less than 50 posts, but the experience here being shared regarding survival (on the forum) is master class.

By the way, how does one develop thick skin? I am unfamiliar with this; instructions would be appreciated a lot  

😂 Spamming suddenly when questioned about an alt account. I feel you need to come to your senses before posting such replies as it makes the community believe the wrongdoings. If you have the balls come out with the primary ID if not then get tagged as you don't seem to bother with your spam and your ignorant behavior + personal remarks

+ One Post to get paid, stop spamming nonsense around here, try have genuine interest for the forum, what have you contributed positively to this thread and the forum entirely?
Stop attacking Bangladesh or Pakistan, stop being a racist.

Now, this is the reason why you guys get bombarded with the accusations of farming. If you as an alt would have controlled your nerves you would not have been accussed of farming from the particular community here. Stop such stupid ways which would have been accepted 5 years back. As of  now the community in question is questionable again with this reply.

Please stop your banter as it is going to make the community believe more, how low life you are and what level of low you have gone to. Be practical and come up with a genuine answer as to why only users from Bangladesh or Pakistan come up with such tactics? This is imperative and remember please don't degrade me. I am asking a genuine question and I am not inclined to anyone here on this thread.

JollyGood Lock this thread is uncalled for, you can tag me for all I care, and stop attacking members making their contribution to topics, why the so much hate for each other on this forum, each day we keep on calling out members for little to nothing, this 2025 man, prejudice and sentiments, bullying should stop, you guys want to kill the forum that you milk from, you will lose at the end.
Mate give yourself peace what I have noticed here in this forum is to for you to survive you must develop a thick skin, because anyone can decide to attack you at any given opportunity.
Thought hate only exists in real life, not knowing is does exist in a simple forum such as this, must everyone have merit's or be in a campaign here?

Someone starts making such posts and getting merits in the beginning, and then others see these posts and begin repeating the pattern in hopes of getting merits.
Regarding D. SOUl, I think it's 100% licking ass-licking, mostly in hopes of getting merits/spot in campaign in future.

If this is the kind of posts these users are making, and getting merits then others who post instructions, guides, useful content are wasting their time.

The user "MuffinMaster" merited 2 mertis in the post above, the user doesn't celebrate Santa's occasion but hopes to get Golden coins.

MuffinMaster has tags of low-quality posting and alt account connection; it makes sense if the accounts he's giving Mertis to are posting crap like him.

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SideNote: You can expect this user in C@mpaign of a Bangladeshi people lover, and then you see quotes like satisfied clients.

Well, it does not stop farmed accounts from trying even if they (thankfully) have not been very successful in that particular thread. The same applies to the other threads where members are encouraged to post links to their unmerited threads/posts to receive merits. They were created to help newbies and low rank members get merits for worthy posts but alt-accounts and account farmers have flooded them (regardless of whether they successfully receive merits or not).

I agree, especially since the trust rating for members will be visible.

This is a perfect example of what these merit hunting account farmers expect. If you look at the previous and after posts surrounding the Wonder Work link above, you will read some desperate comments from him clearly showing a merit hunter.

They might become less profile for a while but will probably return to flood those threads when they think it is safe to not be noticed again.

I agree on both counts. It could help find alt-accounts and placing a neutral tag is an option.

This is true, we cannot do anything about it but some threads are inadvertently encouraging alt-accounts and account farmers to hijack them. Maybe a tweak or two in the rules of those threads might discourage the puppeteers.

Nonsense. You actively go out of your way in order to seek merits as it helps your agenda.

AOBT is a great project to join as it has a function. It also is a great name to use in order to deflect when questions come calling. And a lot of farmed accounts do post in that thread, not just you.

You cannot see any hate from me towards people of Bangladesh. What you see are some questions coming your way then try to deflect attention away if your tactics are mentioned. It cannot be easy trying to post in a manner that is dissimilar to other accounts in an attempt to hide a connection to a farm but sooner or later some members put pieces together.

Another naim027-style deflection with the old "I already have enough merits" line.

No harm in thinking ahead right?

We await for yahoo62278 to respond but in my opinion it seems very murky and not clear. Now that you mention it, it does look akin to both kissing and licking with that over the top congratulations for yahoo62278 reaching a non-memorable 4646 merits.

Given LOL

Managers are not fool obviously. We can sense things. People even send merit to post with payment update(1). Nothing wrong with all of it.

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This topic is not about merits or recognition. If I am not wrong, in past I saw JG himself to post in merit rewarding topics to receive merits.

What worries me after reading this topic and some other topics created recently by JG is that JG is suspecting and considering every account is controlled by naim027 from the Bangladesh local board, he is creating a narrative of "industrial scale farming accounts". He is tagging all these users which I am pretty sure are not appreciated by these users. JG does not have a proof and these users can not provide a proof too to prove themselves not naim027 if they are not. Eventually this is going to create a mess around the reputation board today or tomorrow. Has anyone given a license to JG to disturb, harass other members?



Who else noticed something interesting. When JG creates a topic only a few members (3 to 5 members feed him, activities increases to receive signature payment) show interest and response his topics. In the last one year, 792 members made at-least one posts in reputation board. Can we safely say all these members deliberately ignoring his topics?

You say "ass kissing for some consideration and maybe a spot in campaigns". yahoo62278 seriously? I already have enough merits at this point. I don't need any. And about the consideration part, have your checked my post history (applications) before assuming I was trying butter you up, to get a spot maybe?

These are all the campaigns I have applied to so far. Cryptomus, ZelliX, BitList.co, R7 promotion, The Chnage LTD, SWGT, eXch, BestChange, wasabi, sinbad (I may have missed some, can't track them all).

And the funny thing is, I have never even once applied to any of your campaigns and you clearly didn't managed any of mentioned above (not even the recent active ones, for example evo.io, whale.io). So why would I need anyone's consideration when I didn't even applied for it? At least, to me, it doesn't make sense. And not only you, I have merited all the other CMs at some point. Check my sent merit history again, how many among them you see farmers and how many are them are genuine? I bet, most of them are well known to you. Yet, there are changes some may be farmers, humans are not above errors, but it would be only the minority of them.

I get it, you are a busy person, you have a lot of participant your campaigns. You can't track or check every small details. And probably when you made this post, you didn't checked everything, but only the recent history. But now that I have cleared my part, what do you think? Still ass licking?

Man, you are just pulling up one single thing and making it a big issue. The whole story is missing here. I honestly don't need merits at this point. I already have/had enough when I made that post. I am also a member of AOBT, so merits and recognition? I think I have enough. And a lot of users posted at that specific thread, not just me.

I know why you specifically mentioned me, because I reside in Bangladesh, and you just hate them. I can literally see your hate!

I'm going to be honest with you. What is your goal here? To make me look like a merit beggar who tries to fish merit everywhere? And lastly, what? Who joins a paid signature? That's the end result, right?

I'll give you some points to check.

1. Well, I don't join in every sig campaigns: As we are all aware, the majority of Sigs around here are related to gambling (I guess 95%). But I don't join them. Don't you think as a merit beggar (according to you), I should have at least joined one sig that is related to gambling? Gambling Sigs are the most high paying. But, I can guarantee you, I have never even once applied to a gambling sig, not a single time, even when I had countless chances. Literally every week, I get notified via the bot that open spots are available. I won't go into specifics, but many reputable members, CMs knows I don't do gambling sigs. Among them, some even trust you, JG, some of the users even left you with positive feedback in your profile.

What good will these merits do if I don't join any Sigs? I know, I know, signature is a privilege, not a right, I am aware of that.

My question is: Don't you think I should have applied to every single available sig out there if I had the chance? Because an actual farming account will try anything in their power to join "anywhere that involves money"! In your scambusting/spambusting career, have you encountered anyone who is doing a sig but avoiding the gambling ones? Think reasonably. I don't know what I might do in their future, maybe join a sig that is related to gambling, maybe, maybe not. But at this moment I'm not changing my mind.

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2. I don't typically post in those threads that some might consider to be paradise for farming account owners: By those I mean 'WO' and so on. Some may agree or not, but these threads have been abused throughout the years, afaik. I typically don't post there. If you check, you may find some. But I'm not a regular there.

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3. I don't join every big competition that is happening out there: I think you recently created a post regarding the merit fishing in certain competitions, like the pizza baking.

The last known competition was the pumpkin carving competition. I could have easily spent some bucks, bought a pumpkin, and participated, and maybe earn some merits. But I didn't.

Why do you think I didn't do that? I was even against the participation in my local section, if you check or ask you'll know. I did joined the pie baking competition, though.

Ethics and merit farmers don't go hand to hand. They would have joined everywhere. Why did you I join in one but not in the other? Again, think reasonably. I am not saying I am a very ethical man, but still...

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4. Merit assessed threads: There are certain threads created by and fillippone, LoyceV and others, to encourage the locals. For example, the merit assessment thread. In fillippone's thread, a user can submit up to 7 entries in total. But I submitted only once (afaik it was one time; it's been so long, I don't remember clearly). I could have easily accumulated 35+ merits there. But I never did.

Why do you think I didn't? It would have made it easy for me! Don't you think?

Man, I have nothing against you, nor do you have anything against me. I respect your concerns; I truly do. But again, think reasonably. I don't like unnecessary dramas; I guess I'll stop posting others records there, now that you raised this issue.

Sarcastically speaking, you should probably create a post to warn new and mid-level users not to post in these threads. Not until they build a certain reputation in the forum. Of course, positive reputation. But what I have seen, you never accuse big members of merit fishing.

A lot of legendary users do post there, but you never felt the need to mention them.

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Lastly, this is a request to all the OPs quoted below,  will you kindly lock your respective posts and maybe add new rules? Because what I am seeing now is that Jollygood is going to accuse every low-ranked members.

I do admit a certain level of merit farming is going on here and there, but not all of them are abusers. The rules clearly allows me to post there and it is up to others to ignore or merit those posts. One never should have created those threads in the first place, if you are going to accuse them later.



I may have missed some threads here!

If i were a greedy ass shit abuser, I would have joined anything anywhere, try to accumulate money by any means, before getting caught, of course! Think again, but this time reasonably and logically. Not with any kind of assumptions.

At this point I have nothing else to say, I'll I leave everything to the community and  go to sleep.

Merits are nor moderated and people can send their merits away in any way they see fit. That’s as long as they don’t trade their merits for something else in return. That’s the only rule we have for merit usage atm. Other than that, theymos can remove the inactive merit sources from being merit sources or reduce their merit allocation.

Long story short; As long as people don’t trade their merits, we can’t do anything about it.

You might try to distrust or ignore people that spend their merits foolishly but then you won’t have anybody to read probably.

WO, merit records, pushups these are all good places to farm merits. That’s if you want to farm merits there. Most campaign managers don’t like accounts farming merits in these topics anyway.

Now; this is my 12000th post and I want merits. Gimme sum

I'm pretty sure after this thread created, users who frequently post in that thread will reduce their activity and they only post the obvious special number instead of random 2 matching numbers.

I think it's better to do nothing, because this could help people to find alt accounts.

However, neutral tag can be solution, many users are worried after they received neutral tag.

If you don't give sycophants merit, they will quickly stop spamming on such topics. I had a story when an account that supposedly "congratulated" me demanded encouragement or a response to its "congratulations.".


I'm not talking about everyone who notices the growth and beautiful numbers in users' merits, but when everything looks too obvious, it looks disgusting.

I checked the laat 4 pages of that thread and there were about 16 merits sent in total in about 7 transsctions; Out of almost 80 replies there, only 7 received merits and they were mostly for significant numbers which they caught on other members.
This is hardly numbers that needs "handling" to prevent account farming, and no farm can be grown on this except with other means of acquiring regular merits and hoping for the solitary one or two merits there.

I think the thread is more suited in reputation than in meta.

There are far too many examples to go through that are clearly merit hunters congratulating other members (granted which is part of the rules) in their hope to receive merits by unmemorable numbers such as "4646" alongside ridiculous comments such as "Congratulations man! 4646 seems like a good record"

Most probably I also posted there once or twice, I cannot recall properly but would it not be fantastic if there was a no-merit rule for those types of threads. It would basically drive all the account farmers away and we would be left with just a handful members making meaningful posts in them occasionally when important milestones or nice numbers were on display.

I think we both know he will not engage on a topic such as the one on hand therefore his input (or possible input) can be counted out. If threads similar to these were created in the Reputation board at least they could be self-moderated and could help keep nefarious actors out but that is a different matter altogether.

Such is the desperation of the account farmers to enrol as many accounts as possible on campaigns, they are trying to get to higher ranks as fast as possible as they compete with others to fill vacancies as soon as they become available. The threads mentioned in the OP are victims to the greed of account farmers whether they find merits there or not.

Well industrial scale accounts farmers are doing exactly that and if he sent your merits for your campaign thread you are in his sights, maybe he expects you to enrol him when he next applies for one of your campaigns  

What do you think the result would have been if you posted in that thread to question the "DYING_S0UL" account why he congratulated you on a 4646 merit when as The Sceptical Chymist put it: If a merit count of 4646 is anything special, then any arbitrary merit count is as well.

It would be a fair question to ask because it would not be as though you were questioning "DYING_S0UL" about his relationship to any other name (or naim027) such as "Crypt0S0ul"

I would not doubt that, it is probably going to point out a lot if a pattern related to some of what you suggested is already there.

Pretty sure it's some ass kissing myself as that same person also sent me merits for my sig campaign thread in this section within an hour of me publishing the thread. I cannot control who does or doesn't send me merit, but I def don't ask anyone to kiss my ass or anything.

You can prob find more examples by looking at other campaign managers and seeing who is sending them merits. Likely going to find users that are kissing ass hoping for some consideration and a spot in a campaign.

Yeah, that seems like some blatant ass-kissing to me.  If a merit count of 4646 is anything special, then any arbitrary merit count is as well (unless I'm missing the significance of that particular number).  In addition, there's no reason why DYING_SOUL had to "celebrate" someone else's merit "achievement".  The fact that he chose yahoo62278 to do it for?  Yep, more evidence of ass-kissing and most likely hope for merit-granting.  

That thread should probably get locked if you ask me.  I might have posted in it once or twice, but it seems to have attracted merit beggars and honestly it's just a big jerk-off thread that doesn't need to exist anymore.


That question has been in play for years, my man.  There's not much the community can do by itself except to ignore threads that are magnets for shitposters and merit beggars and--more importantly--to not hand out merits to members who clearly don't deserve them.  Only Theymos has the power to make rules that stick.

One small idea is for the OP of a thread like the one you referenced to make a local rule of some sort.  If done properly, posts that violate the rule(s) could be reported to the moderators and would likely get deleted.  We lowly forum members do have the right to create local rules when starting up threads; it's just a matter of caring enough to do so and wording them effectively.

Edit:  Whoops, I guess JG kind of covered the idea of creating local rules and bullrun2024bro responded to it as well.  That's what I get for posting before reading a thread in full.  So let's just say I agree with JG.

Ah. Would you believe it, regarding self-moderated threads in Meta either I never knew or somehow did know about it but simply forgot. Still, it feels as though I learned something new today even after all the years being a member here  

Yes, you have stipulated them clearly and rules really should be adhered to. In the end you will not be able to stop every malicious actor from using your thread, eventually some of them will filter through as they try to circumvent the rules in their mission to enrol on campaigns as fast as they can.

That is an idea to consider. If a significant number of reports are made about a particular member then it will bring their name to the attention of moderators and they can cross reference it with other reports. It might even work out in a better way than expected but only if they were reported (especially by those that frequent the threads in question often).

If they wanted to, it would not stop farmed accounts meriting each other to keep them recycling within their group but keeping that aside there are some members that do give merits and do not move on. That behaviour encourages the account farmers to create more accounts and that is not the best outcome for the forum and adds more "4646 seems like a good record!" comments rather than discourage it. I was not aware there were other dramas related this topic but having said that, having a debate on the matter does not seem a waste of time. I could always lock the thread if there is not much participation.

It's meta. You can't make self-moderated threads there.

Also the rules are quite clear imho. No spamming, no merit begging. Posting your own records and records of other users.

If you think some users are spamming the thread or fishing for merit use the report function and report it to the mods. They will handle the issue.

I don't see the reason to make another drama about this. Everyone knows there are certain accounts just posting for merits (not only in that thread, but in many threads).

Just don't reward them for their shitposts, use the ignore function and move on.

Unless you want the thread to be cancelled. This is the third rules on the thread:


I think this is not what we should bother ourselves about. Especially, the merit giveaways that you included. Some people will still find their ways to try all ways to earn free merits.