How to handle unethical casino tactics?

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Quote from: Agbe on March 25, 2024, 11:23:03 AM

Unlicensed casino is not worth playing because they can run with gamblers money and there will be no trace to even arrest or sue them.

Let's be honest, even if a licensed casino goes bankrupt, it's unlikely that all people with money deposited will be fully compensated. So licensed or not, it's not a form of insurance from bankruptcy or the casino closing unexpectedly. It's just a very light indication that the casino takes it self and its image a bit more seriously in terms of having something to present to the world.

But to say that it offers insurance is an overstatement. The only thing that is guaranteed by a fund is bank accounts. But even there there are some asterisks that would allow you to get cheated on. So there are no true guarantees.

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Quote from: SinMore on March 25, 2024, 05:11:11 AM

Now, I pose a question to the community: Are we comfortable with these practices? And if not, what steps should we take next?

If you feel like a casino has practices which are unfair, dishonest and misleading, avoid using their services. Don't sign up at their platform or just exclude your account. Move yourself to another platforms which you think are lefit, fair and genuine with their players. These are the steps you should always take regards any services you become a customer. If everyone acted like this, these shady platforms wouldn't survive for too long, therefore, they would have to change the way they handle business to conquer the sympathy and support from potential gamblers.

Some people would say more regulations are needed and more laws enforced by authorities regards these virtual businesses. However, it's not the guarantee of any definitive solution in the end, because even in heavily regulated countries, there are still many shady businesses operating around and cheating on their customers. For that reason, I believe the solution consists more in individual actions than on measures implemented by the collective.

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Quote from: Agbe on March 25, 2024, 11:23:03 AM

Unlicensed casino is not worth playing because they can run with gamblers money and there will be no trace to even arrest or sue them. Therefore gambling in a casino that is not license is a very risky something. By the way I checked the site and it looks simple but I will not advise anyone to gamble with the casino because reviews from this forum also indicating that you are not legit because you have not met the criteria that a casino need before operating in the forum and in the gambling industry. Therefore I will also advise you to go and do the needful before coming here to advertise your casino again.

Steering clear of unlicensed casinos is crucial. The risk of them disappearing with your money is all too real, leaving you with no funds. It's a gamble with your cash and trust that's just not worth taking.

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Unlicensed casino is not worth playing because they can run with gamblers money and there will be no trace to even arrest or sue them. Therefore gambling in a casino that is not license is a very risky something. By the way I checked the site and it looks simple but I will not advise anyone to gamble with the casino because reviews from this forum also indicating that you are not legit because you have not met the criteria that a casino need before operating in the forum and in the gambling industry. Therefore I will also advise you to go and do the needful before coming here to advertise your casino again.

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Of course, I won't be comfortable with those kinds of bad things.
But we do have a choice to switch to another if ever we see this. Sure, there's nothing we can do about it. A mere individual cannot change one big business but there are gambling sites whose reputation exceeds my expectation. You hear rare accusations about them, they rarely come out of topics with scam attempts or cheating. It's just how you will choose them and be sure to stick with them if you find it better than the first one.

We have to be careful with the scammy businesses now, especially in this era where the gambling industry is booming and more are being created each month or each year. That's why I said to stick with one if you see comfort in it, especially in the areas where you mostly play. I have been using one site for 3 years and never had a problem. Then I got 2 more as my 2nd and 3rd choices if ever something bad happened like maintenance or errors.
Let the authority do their job on this unfair gambling sites, I bet they will be happy to put them in a hot seat.

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Well, this casino seems to me like they like to lie a lot, they say they are a casino that started operating since July 2013. It seems to me that it is a lie, I have never heard of this casino before, it seems to me that it is a casino that started operating in 2016 based on the reviews I saw, so in my opinion this is what they wrote on their website:

Quote from: SinMore on March 25, 2024, 05:11:11 AM

Now, I pose a question to the community: Are we comfortable with these practices? And if not, what steps should we take next?

The only thing people should do is not use scam casinos and this type of dishonest practice. thinking that the government will punish the casino that has carried out this type of dishonest practice is making a lot of mistakes, these scammers create casinos and the owners are anonymous, so governments do not punish them because it requires a lot of human resources to keep investigating them and the Governments have other more serious crimes that they focus on solving and as they are unlicensed casinos, it becomes more difficult to find the scammer, which is why the only solution is for people to stay away from these scam casinos.

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The suggestion about casinos having the transparency of their bankroll could somehow be a good thing for it can give a warning to the users of what might come regardless of whether the casino is licensed or not.

But most of the time, it's the unlicensed that you truly need to avoid. In several instances already we saw how the scam started and if they collaborate with users so they win and then split the money, I guess getting evidence for this will be close to impossible. So its best to just avoid.

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If you were a gambler, would you play at an unlicensed casino with your big money? I think not. Of course, you will play at a casino with a good reputation. Whatever funds you deposit and the funds you win, there will be no problems if you are at a trusted casino and there are no errors in your account.
there will be no tactics to create a casino, you can just enjoy the game and have fun. Don't force yourself too much to keep hunting for big wins with lots of tactics. it can please your situation.

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Quote from: SinMore on March 25, 2024, 05:11:11 AM

One individual, Sydney, stands out with mind-boggling payouts, one payout of $37,650.00 on a $10.00 bet equaling a payback percentage of 376500% that raise eyebrows. Are these winnings within the realm of normalcy, or do they hint at something more dubious?

Furthermore, it's concerning that this casino operates without a gaming license or fails to disclose it publicly, alongside neglecting to audit a staggering 95% of its games.

Now, I pose a question to the community: Are we comfortable with these practices? And if not, what steps should we take next?

Immediately you become a feel uncomfortable with the services rendered by casino, the next line of action should be to find another casino to gamble on where your concerns are addressed and you feel more comfortable.

There are many names on the list of reputable casinos, if you suddenly feel uncomfortable with one, try another.

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Quote from: Text on March 25, 2024, 06:32:40 AM

For me, operating without a gaming license and failing to disclose it publicly is a serious red flag. Licensing ensures that casinos adhere to strict regulations and standards, including fair gaming practices and player protection measures. The absence of such transparency casts doubts on the casino's legitimacy and commitment to ethical conduct. Every online casino should display a valid gaming license for player trust and security. That's why I prefer to play only at reputable casinos with transparent practices, reputable and proven licenses, independent audits across all games, and a proven track record or history of fair play/gaming.

i agree that casino platforms that have a gaming license are much better than those that don't. because having a gaming license allows the platform to operate more securely and be regulated under the authority. having a license also allows users to play safely and the potential for fraud by the casino is also much lower, because there will be regular checks by the regulator. even though there is no guarantee that a platform with this license will not have problems, at least it is much better.

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There's no way to handle unethical casino, what you can do is to minimize the casino turns to be unethical.

Here are the criteria:
1. Have an ANN thread in this forum.
2. Either have active advertisement or active representative.
3. Check the representative's feedback.
4. Check how long the casino was been here and read the last few pages of the ANN thread.

The probability they will scam is low if you follow my advice before choose a casino.

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Quote from: bitbollo on March 25, 2024, 07:42:54 AM

show and promote winners is always a practice that any bookmakers or casino will realize.
nothing wrong with these. I am pretty agree... if they don't advertise "win people" what they should promote?

License, for crypto isn't an issue. But of course I prefer to play in a gambling site that has some license. Unless they are very famous and active since a while. Audits on games are a must. But also auditors must be "trustable" otherwise it's just a waste of time...

I don't think it is unethical to promote a business except the business is obviously a scam one. It's a normal practice for casinos to carryout advertisements of different kinds especially lastest fancy wagers and most especially winners, their winning stake and the wins the achieved.
However licence for crypto could be seen more as a regional issue rather than a general issue. This is due to the fact that not all countries actually accept or legalize the use of crypto currencies for payments and other transactions. However I guess most casinos rather host and base their casinos in countries that have less conjested laws against crypto than
trying to host them in countries that don't support crypto. At the end of the day people in those regions can access those casino services online.

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Quote from: bitbollo on March 25, 2024, 07:42:54 AM

show and promote winners is always a practice that any bookmakers or casino will realize.
nothing wrong with these. I am pretty agree... if they don't advertise "win people" what they should promote?

License, for crypto isn't an issue. But of course I prefer to play in a gambling site that has some license. Unless they are very famous and active since a while. Audits on games are a must. But also auditors must be "trustable" otherwise it's just a waste of time...

Showing big winners is exactly a very common used method by casino, because it is what attract potential players to come and play.
Just like on other industries, lets say food industry then the advertising method is something to show how delicious the food is.
I will not say something like this is unethical, business needs to be advertised effectively but of course if there are too much fake things in the advertisement, it can be said as an unethical then.
Coming up license, it is not important thing for me because most crypto casinos in the industry had no license in the past and the new era with license come later.
I'm not sure about audits and how it will work, but I think it is something that will never happen in gambling industry.

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Well man, I got news for you. It's not just casinos all businesses try tactics to make profit, many are unethical.

Just look at altcoins lol. 99% are saying so much shit that either cannot be proven or are even complete lies

Your job, in crypto and in gambling is to do your own research.

Provably Fair and Decentralized is one of the worst lies in crypto and gambling. Just because it says so, doesn't mean it's so. If you can prove for yourself do it. If you cannot, then know your risk.

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show and promote winners is always a practice that any bookmakers or casino will realize.
nothing wrong with these. I am pretty agree... if they don't advertise "win people" what they should promote?

License, for crypto isn't an issue. But of course I prefer to play in a gambling site that has some license. Unless they are very famous and active since a while. Audits on games are a must. But also auditors must be "trustable" otherwise it's just a waste of time...

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Quote from: Beparanf on March 25, 2024, 06:43:06 AM

Crypto Casino usually use games from 3rd party game providers which means most of the casino has a similar games here. There’s no way a single casino can rigged their games because they don’t have any control of it except for house games which is the only games casino created by themselves.

I believe this topic is only for those online casino or physical casino that has their own game software which they can modify it on their own but this is not possible on crypto casino that use similar game providers. The only tactics some casino use to take advantage with their player is their ToS rules that gives them total control on every cases against players.

I don't know what the intention to pointing out a particular unknown casino to the community when based on his post he generalized the practice, he posted that he would not mention the name of the casino but he did mention it after a few paragraphs

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Casinos employ various tactics to extract money from players, often by touting the superiority of their games and the legitimacy of their software, backed by monthly audits from reputable gaming auditors. No one wants to feel cheated out of their earnings, so we naturally place our trust in assurances of fair play. But should we?

I agree that casinos use third-party software so it should be the software that should be questioned if there is rigging going on, checking on the platform it looks like they are using third-party software, and about the winning circle page OP should ask the casino for proof first before making an allegation that they are manipulating the winnings of their winners

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Let's be realistic,

in this day and age casino licenses aren't very meaningful. Unless you are you domiciled in a jurisdiction where a casino license was issued.
Many casinos will have a SUB-license issued to them only for there to be something in their website's footer. Not much more.

Now about this specific casino, we can't be sure. The thing is, if they wanted to prove that their games are fair, they could simply offer provable fairness verifications for each one of their rolls.
If they don't care to do that, it's a trust based matter. In fact, even for every spin in slots through any major online casino, you'd have to be trusting Evolution Inc. for their fairness. Because they might say randomness is guaranteed, but there's no way for them to prove it, as their games are not provably fair.

So all in all, I'd say just stay away from this casino. But if you want to pick apart everything like you do here, care more about proper provable fairness over just licenses and guarantees.

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First of all you should check before hand as how trusted and reputable the casino is before going to play there.It is better to play in a casino which stands behind their statements regarding the provably fair in their games.Also one must be willing to trust the casino in where he decides to play and specifically I am referring to slot machines which nowadays it is easy to change the RTP of the slots.Once these steps are accepted only then start playing.

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Crypto Casino usually use games from 3rd party game providers which means most of the casino has a similar games here. There’s no way a single casino can rigged their games because they don’t have any control of it except for house games which is the only games casino created by themselves.

I believe this topic is only for those online casino or physical casino that has their own game software which they can modify it on their own but this is not possible on crypto casino that use similar game providers. The only tactics some casino use to take advantage with their player is their ToS rules that gives them total control on every cases against players.

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Quote from: SinMore on March 25, 2024, 05:11:11 AM

Upon further exploration of their website, I stumbled upon the "winners circle" page, https://www.lincolncasino.eu/winners-circle showcasing the extraordinary winnings of certain players. One individual, Sydney, stands out with mind-boggling payouts, one payout of $37,650.00 on a $10.00 bet equaling a payback percentage of 376500% that raise eyebrows. Are these winnings within the realm of normalcy, or do they hint at something more dubious?

Many casinos did or are still doing this type of unethical stuff. It is not something new. You might not believe it but some of the oldest and most trustworthy online casinos did the same thing years ago. (I am not pointing any fingers Wink

) Since it is not really possible to prove these winnings, they can lie easily.

Quote from: SinMore on March 25, 2024, 05:11:11 AM

Furthermore, it's concerning that this casino operates without a gaming license or fails to disclose it publicly, alongside neglecting to audit a staggering 95% of its games.

On the contrary of what everyone believes, a gambling license isn't always necessarily a good thing for the player. These casinos don't get these gambling licenses because it is beneficial to the player. (even though sometimes it is) No. It is mostly because they don't want to get in trouble with the governments. If getting a gambling license made a casino honest, then we wouldn't be seeing any scam accusations... but we do and all of those casinos have a license. Having a license doesn't stop the scams automatically.

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