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you can tell that his recommendations are superb, ranging from real estate, commodities and I will also add bitcoin as the high priority one. Real Estate because once their is inflation, properties tends to grow more in value, secondly commodities because once their is inflation production price will also rise and they don't get affected and lastly US savings bond too keeps up with inflation and your guaranteed return is sure.

I believe bitcoin will become a trusted hedge for all people around the world to safeguard against inflation. It may take time but the good thing is the trend of adopting bitcoin as a hedge is already started.

Real Estate could be a great investment, but it is also very expensive to start. Where I live, we do not have too much land, which means we all live in apartments, there are probably just 1-5% houses here, rest are all apartments and tall buildings, people build like 10 story tall buildings to live, with 20 or even 40 apartments (4 on each floor, tiny places) so it is hard.

So, for me to invest into real estate, it would take about 500 months worth of salary, that's right, I need 500 months to save my money and not spend a single dollar from it as well. We all know that is impossible, so I need to find a way to invest my money some other way and make money that way until I have enough to buy a house. It is not a bad idea, I agree with that, but it is both a no-brainer and obvious plus very expensive to start at the same time which makes it a not good advice.

For most people buying real estate is the end goal, so while without a doubt real estate is a great investment you need to find something else in which to invest your money so it grows and then you can buy real estate, however the good news is that we have bitcoin now, even if the price of bitcoin will not grow exponentially as it did in the past, as long as you can accumulate a decent amount of money and then you invest it in bitcoin that can be more than enough to eventually buy a house, or at least reduce significantly the costs you need to pay so you can afford one.

The price of land and houses continues to rise every year, making real estate investment very profitable. But the problem is as you described,
not everyone has the money to buy real estate, because real estate prices are now very expensive. It takes a long time to buy real estate if we
only rely on our income from work. Moreover, I live in third world countries, so I can say that my income is not too big. But after I got to know
Bitcoin, it gives me hope. Seeing the performance of Bitcoin in the last 12 years, makes me believe that I can buy real estate through Bitcoin.
We can buy Bitcoin regularly every month from a portion of our income, then we hold Bitcoin for the long term. I am sure that the profit we make is
very large and it is very possible to buy real estate, it has been proven by early adopters. Some people who collected Bitcoins from 2013,
ended up getting rich and not only managed to buy real estate, but they were able to build their business from Bitcoin. What's interesting is
that Bitcoin is not affected by inflation, so Bitcoin can indeed make us rich. So people who don't invest in Bitcoin will regret it in the future.

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Quote from: uneng on January 31, 2022, 06:05:44 PM

Massive inflation usually comes side by side with high interest rates. So at the beginning it can be profitable for investors to keep and invest their money on that inflationary currency, just like a ponzi scheme is profitable for early investors, but completely ruins the economies of late ones or of those who aren't agile enough to exchange their money on the right time into a stable currency.

Real estate is great, but you have to keep in mind if it is a good choice to have a property in a chaotic country where massive inflation is a constant threat.

Unfortunately there may be nowhere to run to, after all not only all currencies printed by the governments are fiat, the world reserve currency which is the dollar is suffering huge inflation as well and this is affecting the whole world, so I think that as long as the place you live is relatively politically stable and it has good living conditions then buying real estate there makes sense, but if this is not the case then those are grounds to try to look for alternatives in other countries.

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you can tell that his recommendations are superb, ranging from real estate, commodities and I will also add bitcoin as the high priority one. Real Estate because once their is inflation, properties tends to grow more in value, secondly commodities because once their is inflation production price will also rise and they don't get affected and lastly US savings bond too keeps up with inflation and your guaranteed return is sure.

I believe bitcoin will become a trusted hedge for all people around the world to safeguard against inflation. It may take time but the good thing is the trend of adopting bitcoin as a hedge is already started.

Real Estate could be a great investment, but it is also very expensive to start. Where I live, we do not have too much land, which means we all live in apartments, there are probably just 1-5% houses here, rest are all apartments and tall buildings, people build like 10 story tall buildings to live, with 20 or even 40 apartments (4 on each floor, tiny places) so it is hard.

So, for me to invest into real estate, it would take about 500 months worth of salary, that's right, I need 500 months to save my money and not spend a single dollar from it as well. We all know that is impossible, so I need to find a way to invest my money some other way and make money that way until I have enough to buy a house. It is not a bad idea, I agree with that, but it is both a no-brainer and obvious plus very expensive to start at the same time which makes it a not good advice.

Not at all. Real State used to be expensive, full of taxes and difficult to invest in, even for professionals, but you can now access a wide range of investments that will provide exposure to real state. REITs are really good proxies and you can tune your investment to any type of real state. In a previous post I linked a fund that would make you a co-proprietary of a prison in the USA.

https://www.millionacres.com/real-estate-investing/articles/top-performing-prison-reits-2019/

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For example, CoreCivic manages roughly 19 million square feet of real estate used by government agencies. The company has three operating segments:

Safety: CoreCivic manages 14.7 million square feet of correctional and detention facilities on behalf of federal and state agencies. The operation of safe and secure corrections facilities supplied 85% of the company's NOI in 2019.
Property: The company owns 3.3 million square feet of space like corrections facilities and other government service agency properties that it leases back to government agencies. CoreCivic engages in the development and sale-leaseback acquisition of facilities leased to government operators. These activities contributed 10% of its NOI in 2019.
Community: The company operates 700,000 square feet of community corrections facilities that provide residential reentry services. These activities provided 5% of its NOI in 2019.
Thus, CoreCivic primarily makes money managing and operating real estate on behalf of government agencies rather than on the ownership and leasing of facilities.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on January 21, 2022, 06:15:13 PM

How To Profit From MASSIVE Inflation
This video will explore 3 ways to invest if you want to profit from the inflation we've been seeing over the past year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPQ0pttjinI

Recommendations on real estate and commodities as good business models to pursue in eras of high inflation.

He contends real estate will appreciate in value at a pace rivaling inflation, allowing for profits over both short and long term.

Commodities is his other recommendation.

Interesting whiteboard analysis and good breakdown.

Real estate has been growing exponentially in most countries around the world for the last ten years, I'm not sure how this advice is exactly original or especially clever. Residential property has long been a great investment, not only is it a home you don't have to pay someone else to live in (aka renting) but the mortgage interest rate is usually much lower than the increase in the value of the building. It's actually a more dangerous time to own property when central banks start putting up interest rates, because it eventually reaches a point where people cannot afford to remortgage and the housing bubble pops. Inflation can lead to great imbalances all throughout the economy and commodities is always a risky proposition unless you buy at rock bottom prices (e.g. during the last recession dip).

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Quote from: odolvlobo on January 22, 2022, 02:13:02 AM

Here is what I think:

I think the only way to profit from inflation is to borrow money to buy income-generating assets whose income and value keep up with inflation.

In order to profit from inflation, you must borrow money. The profit comes from repaying the loan with inflated money.

I think I'm some worth not flexible with the idea of borrowing money. It's very okay for the fact that, its what you think but then, for someone who isn't comfortable with the idea of taking a loan (as I suppose that's what the term borrow in your comment mean). Does it inply that, such person can't archive the same purpose as stated in your comment and profit from inflation?

I think, borrowing or taking loans to invest isn't a must. In fact, I for one consider it to be a very risky move as, nothing is ever 100% assuring.

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Real estate requires a certain amount of money to start with which is something that might not be a good idea for most people. They might try holding off their real estate selling for the time being, so that they can make profits when the economic situation gets better.
Other than that commodities like : Gold and Silver is a cultural hoarding part as well, it provides not just a backup for many families but also help keep some of the largest economies stable.
Then comes some of the most random commodities like: people keeping up their Legos intact as well, selling the old Barbies and other stuff. There is a lot going on this world right now! But for the middle class I think there are not a lot of ways to tackle inflation.

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We have MASSIVE inflation in our nation, and debt is the getaway for the freedom. How? Well I have a friend who bought a house with mortgage, 3 years ago when he got the house his payments were around 440$ or so per month, since we live in a third world nation the amount wasn't really too bad, he also paid %50 of the house straight up, this loan was for the rest. The house he bought worth around 100k$ or so, 50k paid upfront, and the other 50k was suppose to be something like 15 or whatever years (I really do not remember). After only 3 years, his income grew around x5 or so, and his wife also grew around the same. So mortgage was around %40 or so of their total expense, and now it is around %10 of their expense after massive inflation. Also their house value increase x3.5 or so times as well.

This dude did not know any of this of course, he just wanted to buy a house and own his own house, now thanks to this move, and the massive inflation, dude managed to get a house for such a small amount of money.

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Quote from: uneng on January 31, 2022, 06:05:44 PM

Massive inflation usually comes side by side with high interest rates. So at the beginning it can be profitable for investors to keep and invest their money on that inflationary currency, just like a ponzi scheme is profitable for early investors, but completely ruins the economies of late ones or of those who aren't agile enough to exchange their money on the right time into a stable currency.

IMHO, that was an off comparison with Ponzi schemes.

Quote from: uneng on January 31, 2022, 06:05:44 PM

Real estate is great, but you have to keep in mind if it is a good choice to have a property in a chaotic country where massive inflation is a constant threat.

I agree, it also relies on the country or place where you're going to buy the property. Luckily, I'm in a better land. Rates here just got high while thinking that it would be slowed down due to the pandemic situation. But well, people would sell their real estate with the best possible rate that they can get while flipping it. I've been reading those advisors that are telling buy it in cash if you can do so which is unlikely for many average people.

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Massive inflation usually comes side by side with high interest rates. So at the beginning it can be profitable for investors to keep and invest their money on that inflationary currency, just like a ponzi scheme is profitable for early investors, but completely ruins the economies of late ones or of those who aren't agile enough to exchange their money on the right time into a stable currency.

Real estate is great, but you have to keep in mind if it is a good choice to have a property in a chaotic country where massive inflation is a constant threat.

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Quote from: jaberwock on January 25, 2022, 04:33:23 AM

you can tell that his recommendations are superb, ranging from real estate, commodities and I will also add bitcoin as the high priority one. Real Estate because once their is inflation, properties tends to grow more in value, secondly commodities because once their is inflation production price will also rise and they don't get affected and lastly US savings bond too keeps up with inflation and your guaranteed return is sure.

I believe bitcoin will become a trusted hedge for all people around the world to safeguard against inflation. It may take time but the good thing is the trend of adopting bitcoin as a hedge is already started.

Real Estate could be a great investment, but it is also very expensive to start. Where I live, we do not have too much land, which means we all live in apartments, there are probably just 1-5% houses here, rest are all apartments and tall buildings, people build like 10 story tall buildings to live, with 20 or even 40 apartments (4 on each floor, tiny places) so it is hard.

So, for me to invest into real estate, it would take about 500 months worth of salary, that's right, I need 500 months to save my money and not spend a single dollar from it as well. We all know that is impossible, so I need to find a way to invest my money some other way and make money that way until I have enough to buy a house. It is not a bad idea, I agree with that, but it is both a no-brainer and obvious plus very expensive to start at the same time which makes it a not good advice.

For most people buying real estate is the end goal, so while without a doubt real estate is a great investment you need to find something else in which to invest your money so it grows and then you can buy real estate, however the good news is that we have bitcoin now, even if the price of bitcoin will not grow exponentially as it did in the past, as long as you can accumulate a decent amount of money and then you invest it in bitcoin that can be more than enough to eventually buy a house, or at least reduce significantly the costs you need to pay so you can afford one.

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Quote from: jaberwock on January 25, 2022, 04:33:23 AM

you can tell that his recommendations are superb, ranging from real estate, commodities and I will also add bitcoin as the high priority one. Real Estate because once their is inflation, properties tends to grow more in value, secondly commodities because once their is inflation production price will also rise and they don't get affected and lastly US savings bond too keeps up with inflation and your guaranteed return is sure.

I believe bitcoin will become a trusted hedge for all people around the world to safeguard against inflation. It may take time but the good thing is the trend of adopting bitcoin as a hedge is already started.

Real Estate could be a great investment, but it is also very expensive to start. Where I live, we do not have too much land, which means we all live in apartments, there are probably just 1-5% houses here, rest are all apartments and tall buildings, people build like 10 story tall buildings to live, with 20 or even 40 apartments (4 on each floor, tiny places) so it is hard.

So, for me to invest into real estate, it would take about 500 months worth of salary, that's right, I need 500 months to save my money and not spend a single dollar from it as well. We all know that is impossible, so I need to find a way to invest my money some other way and make money that way until I have enough to buy a house. It is not a bad idea, I agree with that, but it is both a no-brainer and obvious plus very expensive to start at the same time which makes it a not good advice.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on January 21, 2022, 06:15:13 PM

Recommendations on real estate and commodities as good business models to pursue in eras of high inflation.

He contends real estate will appreciate in value at a pace rivaling inflation, allowing for profits over both short and long term.

Commodities is his other recommendation.

Interesting whiteboard analysis and good breakdown.

To be able to gain from inflation one simply needs to understand that inflation is simply rise in the price of goods in an economy over the time. With this understanding, you can tell that his recommendations are superb, ranging from real estate, commodities and I will also add bitcoin as the high priority one. Real Estate because once their is inflation, properties tends to grow more in value, secondly commodities because once their is inflation production price will also rise and they don't get affected and lastly US savings bond too keeps up with inflation and your guaranteed return is sure.

I believe bitcoin will become a trusted hedge for all people around the world to safeguard against inflation. It may take time but the good thing is the trend of adopting bitcoin as a hedge is already started.

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I think it is a bit late for the recommendations. I have been in Tin commodities and stocks since nearly 8 months and saw a 100% return, but that may not be repeatable in the following terms. On regards to real state, you effectively can profit from it, but you would need to make sure there is a good underlaying low debt backing the assets and that it is fixed rate. Again, the problem is that, believe it or not, it is already old news!

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Quote from: el kaka22 on January 23, 2022, 12:52:27 PM

I love these types who keep saying "well if you buy a house and create debt, your debt will be very tiny in 30 years whereas your income will be huge due to inflation!", dude do I look like I can buy a house? Like what is wrong with these people?

Housing prices could be fine in the USA and you may get one, but here it costs somewhere between 50k to 350k to buy a house and the minimum wage is like 300 dollars, yes I make more than minimum wage but not like I make 10k per month, I do not make that at all, I barely make twice as much as minimum wage, and that is good but nowhere NEAR enough to buy a house. That is why I am in crypto and it has been helping me slowly grow my capital.

You don't necessarily have to invest in a whole house to be part of a real estate investment. In developing countries, people often find trustworthy people (friends, family) to pool money together and buy up land that can be used for residential purposes or commercial purposes down the line. This is risky and needs a lot of networking but I have seen people successfully do it. Buying a home in developed countries probably makes sense due to the high rent that a middle class family would have to pay for a house big enough for parents and the four children.

My target. Buy cheap land and see what i can grow on it. Agricultural land can still be bought at low prices. With the kind of investments and growth developing countries are witnessing, you can never say when that useless parcel of land will become valuable.

It is one of my most closely held desires to OWN land, a lot of it. Don't know why. There is just something about knowing that you own land.

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I like how he explained the different strategies whether short-term, long-term, or some other possible investments that you can get. I think if you can follow him as to what would be the best hedging with inflation, you would really learn a lot about it. The favorite part that I have is where he says BTC, that it's the Gold 2.0, so it's best to get more of it.

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Massive inflations will wreck hovac in future, simply because the rising population will lead to resource shortages.
Investments in the essential need is the best way to ensure good profits in future, some of them include investment in supply chains, investment in big time sellers like amazon and wallmart.
Investment in real estate and agriculture.
No matter what economists say the golden rule of supply and demand will always hold true..
So always invest in basics..

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A big NO if to have real estate is from debt. How does a small worker pay that debt for 30 years while he has many things needed for his life and family? Sometimes those people can easily suggest unrealistic things for people. Ok, well, maybe that works for them but that can not work for others. But I like what he said at the end of the videos.

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But there are a million ways you can if you can find your niche.

That is something that we need to search to help us to stop the hamster wheel and make a profit.

He shows that it is easy to profit from inflation and one of that many ways will be real estate. If they have much money, they can use real estate to follow the way. But if it is not, they should find other things. Luckily, we have cryptocurrency that can help us get out from the inflations but we need to learn more.

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Quote from: Reid on January 24, 2022, 02:23:01 AM

I strongly agree with real estate investing but it requires a lot of money. "If I could, I would." But it doesn't mean there is no risk into it. It will not spoil, that's a fact but it might also take long for ROI and profit. During an inflation all prices will rise at a rate that cannot be controlled. One more trick is while waiting for the ROI and profit, try to make it a business and put it for lease. That way, money will keep on coming rather than just waiting for the inflation to slow down and a buyer to come in.

Especially at the present, real estate is expensive as someone's soul so it's really difficult to get in unless you can immigrate in other countries that hasn't realized their real estate potential yet like small countries that can be a potential tourist destination. I have learned a lot about using real estate as a means to make money. I don't know much about leasing but wouldn't evicting someone out of it is difficult?

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I strongly agree with real estate investing but it requires a lot of money. "If I could, I would." But it doesn't mean there is no risk into it. It will not spoil, that's a fact but it might also take long for ROI and profit. During an inflation all prices will rise at a rate that cannot be controlled. One more trick is while waiting for the ROI and profit, try to make it a business and put it for lease. That way, money will keep on coming rather than just waiting for the inflation to slow down and a buyer to come in.

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In my opinion, it's difficult for an average person to make this happen because making money out of inflation requires a lot of money so I am pretty sure that people like me won't be able to do it but it's a good idea and some might be able to use this ideas so they can profit out of inflation. Only one that I know when it comes to this is how to hedge yourself or how to protect yourself from inflation and that's about it.

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