In case someone uses their hardware wallet (as main storage) in combination with a smartphone (via Bluetooth or OTG cable), then it should be borne in mind that a mobile app like Ledger Live can lead to privacy breaches. Some airports (especially USA) sometimes require from travelers to enable full insight into their smartphones, and Ledger Live as app can be started and used as watch-only wallet without hardware wallet as device. Of course, it's always possible to protect yourself even in situations like this by adding more accounts and setting up a passphrase.
Everything else you say is definitely true, security is much more than the type of wallet we use.
Topic: How to Protect Your Crypto Wallet if Someone Searches Your Phone? (Read 1641 times)
Locking phone doesn't do anything then right?
it depends on who you are trying to protect yourself against.
if it is government, law enforcement,... then no nothing will be enough. they can easily force you to obey and hand over all your passwords and open all the locks very easily.
if it is a thief with a gun to your head then again the same scenario, they can force you to give it all up.
but if it is only to protect against a snoopy friend, colleague,... then yeah even locking your phone does a lot.
Actually there are means to protect yourself. At least I think so.
1. Don't keep all your coins in one place. Simply keep the coins you don't spend in the near future on (safely generated) paper wallets offline, maybe in safe box maybe copies in different places.
2. Never trust phone security, use hardware wallet for the money you keep at hand.
3. Use as much as possible change addresses and different receive addresses to make it harder to track the funds to you, so government or individuals don't know if you own 0.1BTC or 1000BTC (or more, why not?)
4. Keep your mouth shut. Don't brag about your wealth. The worst that can happen is not the government and not the hackers. You don't want yourself or somebody you love get kidnapped or things like this because you brag on the internet you have 100BTC (and maybe in reality you don't even have them!)
Locking phone doesn't do anything then right?
it depends on who you are trying to protect yourself against.
if it is government, law enforcement,... then no nothing will be enough. they can easily force you to obey and hand over all your passwords and open all the locks very easily.
if it is a thief with a gun to your head then again the same scenario, they can force you to give it all up.
but if it is only to protect against a snoopy friend, colleague,... then yeah even locking your phone does a lot.
Locking phone doesn't do anything then right?
April 06, 2020, 09:53:02 AM
Why would someone even search your own phone? dont they even know the word privacy and security.
op asking if police asking to open it.Then it will be depend on the situation if you make a crime they can have your phone to collect more evidence they need.
They will not ask you to open it for them they can open it without problem since they have thier own IT's working to them.
Yes they have authorities to open it but they should make sure to have a search warrant since its a violation on their side.
But in the case of security for other evader better to turn on all necessary measures in terms of security like binding your phone number,2fa and email since this one could make our wallet more safer.
Everything should be on legal process and authorities cant easily just force out people on checking out their belongings as they like.We do have that so called "privacy" but all depends on what
kind of government we do have on a certain country but most of the time if they wanted to they would surely obliged you to give out your phone for inspection.This situation might be nearly impossible
but if that thing happen then its better to know on how to hid up things when it comes to your wallet and other related crypto stuff so that in case if there are inspection then you are somewhat confident
that they cant find anything.
April 06, 2020, 06:25:15 AM
Why would someone even search your own phone? dont they even know the word privacy and security.
op asking if police asking to open it.Then it will be depend on the situation if you make a crime they can have your phone to collect more evidence they need.
They will not ask you to open it for them they can open it without problem since they have thier own IT's working to them.
Yes they have authorities to open it but they should make sure to have a search warrant since its a violation on their side.
But in the case of security for other evader better to turn on all necessary measures in terms of security like binding your phone number,2fa and email since this one could make our wallet more safer.
March 20, 2020, 02:37:29 AM
Why would someone even search your own phone? dont they even know the word privacy and security.
op asking if police asking to open it.Then it will be depend on the situation if you make a crime they can have your phone to collect more evidence they need.
They will not ask you to open it for them they can open it without problem since they have thier own IT's working to them.
March 19, 2020, 11:49:55 PM
I have multiple security on my phone just in case it got lost or stolen.
March 08, 2020, 10:41:31 PM
Why would someone even search your own phone? dont they even know the word privacy and security.
March 07, 2020, 08:11:35 PM
In my own opinion, when you installed an application expected that there are some information in your phone that you give them a full access by just confirming those pop-up message that would allowed you. When you start allowing them to access your phones, you can't stop them to see your personal information such as pictures, documents, accounts and other important information. To prevent it from getting all your information it is needed to provide an alternative gadget or any phones so that you may that only exclusive for cryptocurrency wallets. In case of being loss, it is useful to store other important information in cloud storage not in memory card, because whatever the password strong is, it can be opened by professional hackers.
March 07, 2020, 06:23:42 AM
The only way I go about this without the authorities getting to go through some sensitive information such as my holdings in my phone is by hiding all my cryptocurrency apps also I have this xiaomi device I use where I have two operating systems on a device, so i get to store my wallets in the other operating system and the main operating system is what I open to them when such request is being made.
I think all these troubles depend on the country that has restriction on bitcoin. If I live in such country, I won't have to give myself all the trouble so that I don't eventually lose my coins. I would leave my phone simply. If I get back home, then I continue with it. Or , I would have an alternative phone that is smaller maybe.
Simply having the two phones is probably the best idea, and the easiest one. Why to trough all the trouble with two operating systems, why to have fake operating system like in the article, when you can have two phones and that is it.
For people who travel is enough to have private keys, when you have them you can restore your wallet when you arrive at your destination. You can store your private keys anywhere, all you need is connection!
Article is long and maybe some people will use it, but as I say there are an easier ways to stay off the grid and have nothing with you in case someone tries to search you and what you are carrying with yourself.
March 03, 2020, 02:30:14 PM
The only way I go about this without the authorities getting to go through some sensitive information such as my holdings in my phone is by hiding all my cryptocurrency apps also I have this xiaomi device I use where I have two operating systems on a device, so i get to store my wallets in the other operating system and the main operating system is what I open to them when such request is being made.
I think all these troubles depend on the country that has restriction on bitcoin. If I live in such country, I won't have to give myself all the trouble so that I don't eventually lose my coins. I would leave my phone simply. If I get back home, then I continue with it. Or , I would have an alternative phone that is smaller maybe.
February 27, 2020, 12:00:05 AM
When you are already aware on possible phone search then think up wisely.Use an alternative one and in case you get caught in the act then they cant find anything.
When it comes to checking or inspection specially on your personal belongings then it do really need legal documentation and as a right you should
seek for that one because everything do comes on due process.
I think the thing here is instant searching mate and not that you can get ready in case police or any authority needs to make search things that i believe depends on what country and laws are being applied because in my region we have the rights to deny searches in our personal things not unless you are a pointed criminal so they can interfere even in our personals.When it comes to checking or inspection specially on your personal belongings then it do really need legal documentation and as a right you should
seek for that one because everything do comes on due process.
but giving that situation i think we must have more securities in our wallets to be more safer if ever things like this happens,2fa will do as well with another device verification in which not in your hand at the same time.
February 26, 2020, 05:24:38 PM
When you are already aware on possible phone search then think up wisely.Use an alternative one and in case you get caught in the act then they cant find anything.
I think the fear of being searched for crypto related issues should be for jurisdictions that have placed ban on crypto or bitcoin, otherwise, there won't be any need to be vigilant about phone search for cryptocurrency.
In my country however, if you have illicit stuff in your phone, then you can be on guide but crypto isn't a crime.
February 25, 2020, 06:54:58 PM
We all keep a lot of personal information on our phones and obviously don’t want to share our correspondence, cryptocurrency wallets, or contacts to become a part of the public domain. Nonetheless, in some cases, authorities can ask you to provide full access to your device.
Is this even legal? Can you refuse to give your phone to law enforcement? How can you protect your cryptocurrency wallet?
https://forklog.media/how-to-protect-your-crypto-wallet-during-phone-search/
Is this even legal? Can you refuse to give your phone to law enforcement? How can you protect your cryptocurrency wallet?
https://forklog.media/how-to-protect-your-crypto-wallet-during-phone-search/
Authorities have the right to seize your phone with full access to your information in order to find what they are looking for if they want. If you have not broken any laws, then you can not worry. However, if you did, for example, something illegal, using your crypto wallet or something else, then the authorities will find this on your phone in any case, since they have the most advanced knowledge about it. I don't think that there is any more effective way to protect yourself than not to commit illegal actions.
Well for most of us here, we are good abiding citizen and that is the whole premise of this discussions.
Of course if you're a criminal you will hide everything, but if authorities seize your phone just because they have suspected you of something then it's not right. That's why we don't advise to put or used our mobile phone to store our crypto, at least for me.
February 22, 2020, 06:26:21 AM
We all keep a lot of personal information on our phones and obviously don’t want to share our correspondence, cryptocurrency wallets, or contacts to become a part of the public domain. Nonetheless, in some cases, authorities can ask you to provide full access to your device.
Is this even legal? Can you refuse to give your phone to law enforcement? How can you protect your cryptocurrency wallet?
https://forklog.media/how-to-protect-your-crypto-wallet-during-phone-search/
Is this even legal? Can you refuse to give your phone to law enforcement? How can you protect your cryptocurrency wallet?
https://forklog.media/how-to-protect-your-crypto-wallet-during-phone-search/
Authorities have the right to seize your phone with full access to your information in order to find what they are looking for if they want. If you have not broken any laws, then you can not worry. However, if you did, for example, something illegal, using your crypto wallet or something else, then the authorities will find this on your phone in any case, since they have the most advanced knowledge about it. I don't think that there is any more effective way to protect yourself than not to commit illegal actions.
February 22, 2020, 06:23:56 AM
We all keep a lot of personal information on our phones and obviously don’t want to share our correspondence, cryptocurrency wallets, or contacts to become a part of the public domain. Nonetheless, in some cases, authorities can ask you to provide full access to your device.
Is this even legal? Can you refuse to give your phone to law enforcement? How can you protect your cryptocurrency wallet?
https://forklog.media/how-to-protect-your-crypto-wallet-during-phone-search/
Our wallets has a private keys,so I don’t see what are your problem with this?and also authority will only ask for your mobile or gadget if you are a suspected criminal and not just by random checking (not unless in your country there is something in law like that) but in my country?we have the rights to refuse giving our personal things .Is this even legal? Can you refuse to give your phone to law enforcement? How can you protect your cryptocurrency wallet?
https://forklog.media/how-to-protect-your-crypto-wallet-during-phone-search/
I think this is still depend in which country or region you are living.
February 22, 2020, 05:44:35 AM
Ofcourse, i think #govt and #authorities have all the tool's on earth to access your mobile phone remotely without the need of your permission or coming to you physical if, there is need for such.
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Soldierwitlittlefaith
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February 19, 2020, 03:26:00 PM
The only way I go about this without the authorities getting to go through some sensitive information such as my holdings in my phone is by hiding all my cryptocurrency apps also I have this xiaomi device I use where I have two operating systems on a device, so i get to store my wallets in the other operating system and the main operating system is what I open to them when such request is being made.
Do you mean dual space? Because it is not possible to have two operating systems in a single device. Redmi offers dual space feature which makes it easy to manage such apps onto another space and also it keeps us secure even if anyone searches our phone. At the first stage, there needs to be some legal permission letter from the supreme court in order to search your property and it can only be done if they have major doubt on you about money laundering or any such case.In usual case, we do not need to worry even if any legal entity finds any crypto related app on our device as it entirely depends on our willingness which app we want to use.
February 19, 2020, 07:25:06 AM
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Ill do the same things i am always have backup two phone one is always at home and the other one i take it any where i go . Its for security not only for wallet but for the other important application and even email. So if i lost my phone or someone stole it from me i have all the back up needed to recover anything in places.My laptop is always home and it is most secure as no one can access it without knowing the password and I have never shared the password for my laptop with anyone. Usually I store limited information in my mobile device as it might even be wrecked anytime which might make us loose our private credentials including private keys, etc.
I have already experienced this as my previous mobile device was turned into pieces after I drop it from my pocket while riding bike and a car almost trashed my device. That made me loose some private keys which I used to store some tokens and it gave me a huge lesson. From that date, I always switch such important information from my mobile to laptop.
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