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newbie
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March 06, 2018, 07:06:08 AM
Hello everyone!

Today I've read a couple of articles and I've noticed that the most people are used to label each ICO as a scam. That is not fair, I know. Especially when you work in a startup launching ICO and do your best to make a project successful. However, having worked in ICO industry I learned how to recognize a scam just from one conversation with a Founder. I don't know how to explain this feeling. Probably, my subconscious translates knowledge, but I could not say a have a large experience.

So I decided to make a list of scam signs: (and this is just my own opinion)

- A founder and a team are not open.

Talking with a founder is always nice. They are usually full of energy and ready to talk about their project for hours. No matter how tired he/she is: when one is asking about a project, a founder starts talking about it with eyes burn with a fire. No matter who you are. When a founder deflects, tries to escape and avoids it makes you think that he/she just can't tell you anything important. What is more, it is crucial talking to a team. When a team member doesn't know how to answer a simple question about a product, it is also a bad sign.

In case of the lack of opportunity to visit an event and to talk to a team, you always can contact a founder and a team online. They should be open and answer patiently all your difficult questions. Even if you ask it every minute.

- Spending a lot of money on marketing isn't always show professionalism.

Just think. A company needs ICO to raise money for a company development. Isn't it a little bit queerly when an unknown company is too fancy. How? And Why? Why do they need ICO if they already have money on expensive advertisement? I don't know too  Huh

- You know nothing about a founder. And you cant find any information about him/her.

Always google the founder. Always. And now I'm not talking about his/her FB page. I'm talking about his experience, education, photos, events he took part in. A founder should not be a mysterious person who came from nowhere. His background should be open to everyone.

- They don't have a readymade product.

Let's make a sober recognition. The competition is high. In the end of 2017 - the beginning of 2018 you just can't appear with an idea and ask for money. You need to develop your product before ICO. It should not be an amazing one. It could be just prototype. But investors need something real. They need to touch and try your product. However, just 16% of all ICO has a product.

And what do you think about it? What are your signs of a scam?






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member
Activity: 271
Merit: 10
March 06, 2018, 07:01:09 AM
Hello everyone!

Today I've read a couple of articles and I've noticed that the most people are used to label each ICO as a scam. That is not fair, I know. Especially when you work in a startup launching ICO and do your best to make a project successful. However, having worked in ICO industry I learned how to recognize a scam just from one conversation with a Founder. I don't know how to explain this feeling. Probably, my subconscious translates knowledge, but I could not say a have a large experience.

So I decided to make a list of scam signs: (and this is just my own opinion)

- A founder and a team are not open.

Talking with a founder is always nice. They are usually full of energy and ready to talk about their project for hours. No matter how tired he/she is: when one is asking about a project, a founder starts talking about it with eyes burn with a fire. No matter who you are. When a founder deflects, tries to escape and avoids it makes you think that he/she just can't tell you anything important. What is more, it is crucial talking to a team. When a team member doesn't know how to answer a simple question about a product, it is also a bad sign.

In case of the lack of opportunity to visit an event and to talk to a team, you always can contact a founder and a team online. They should be open and answer patiently all your difficult questions. Even if you ask it every minute.

- Spending a lot of money on marketing isn't always show professionalism.

Just think. A company needs ICO to raise money for a company development. Isn't it a little bit queerly when an unknown company is too fancy. How? And Why? Why do they need ICO if they already have money on expensive advertisement? I don't know too  Huh

- You know nothing about a founder. And you cant find any information about him/her.

Always google the founder. Always. And now I'm not talking about his/her FB page. I'm talking about his experience, education, photos, events he took part in. A founder should not be a mysterious person who came from nowhere. His background should be open to everyone.

- They don't have a readymade product.

Let's make a sober recognition. The competition is high. In the end of 2017 - the beginning of 2018 you just can't appear with an idea and ask for money. You need to develop your product before ICO. It should not be an amazing one. It could be just prototype. But investors need something real. They need to touch and try your product. However, just 16% of all ICO has a product.

And what do you think about it? What are your signs of a scam?





I think the way to get spam or junk is when we go deeper into those messages or emails to check, I've encountered a lot of scams and when I made a mistake then the news I have lost all the information and money I have, there are many fraudulent messages to my email and phone but now I ignore to avoid the risk.
newbie
Activity: 28
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March 06, 2018, 07:00:39 AM
Some are hard to infer so well done. In principle, little information and made to sound good, too good.
full member
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March 06, 2018, 06:41:42 AM
          Due to social media's  they allow fraud in the internet when ever there is new or hot the scammers reach there to find any hot news for them. further more, Bitcoin is a digital virtual currency and there is no interference of a central authority.Since only a few knows about Bitcoin they trust that Bitcoin has value and it is too volatile there is a dark side to Bitcoin that is some malwares some software that will mess our computer fake Bitcoin wallets attracting the users.
jr. member
Activity: 126
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March 06, 2018, 05:59:30 AM
Along with everything discussed here, I can point out that making "google image search" with the founders' photos helps a lot.

You can also view their web page source with a right click and see if the web page is built with a readily available web template. I'm not against using a template but hey, these guys are developers and it would be really nice to see their skills in their web page.

Finally, if an ICO leaves "p*n*s" as a note to their investors, you know that's a scam Smiley
newbie
Activity: 38
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March 06, 2018, 05:48:08 AM
In recognizing if it is scam, asks some legal document to the group of people where they offer their product.
Don't invest to the company where the Founder or the creator of that group is hiding their real image or personality because absolutely they are the scammers.

I am not sure about this because as far I can see, many ICO give a real picture or maybe I cannot detect fake image for every people in the project. but this could be another option to detect the ICO is real or not and I think we can ask them about their project and what their vision with their project. I think if they are a good team, they will give information related to the project so people can know that there is a legit project and people could feel safe to join with them.

I gree with you because you always should check everything out and bee careful


It is a good topic, but you need to be careful thought
full member
Activity: 406
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March 05, 2018, 07:09:54 AM
In recognizing if it is scam, asks some legal document to the group of people where they offer their product.
Don't invest to the company where the Founder or the creator of that group is hiding their real image or personality because absolutely they are the scammers.

I am not sure about this because as far I can see, many ICO give a real picture or maybe I cannot detect fake image for every people in the project. but this could be another option to detect the ICO is real or not and I think we can ask them about their project and what their vision with their project. I think if they are a good team, they will give information related to the project so people can know that there is a legit project and people could feel safe to join with them.

I gree with you because you always should check everything out and bee careful
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March 04, 2018, 07:39:07 AM
In recognizing if it is scam, asks some legal document to the group of people where they offer their product.
Don't invest to the company where the Founder or the creator of that group is hiding their real image or personality because absolutely they are the scammers.

I am not sure about this because as far I can see, many ICO give a real picture or maybe I cannot detect fake image for every people in the project. but this could be another option to detect the ICO is real or not and I think we can ask them about their project and what their vision with their project. I think if they are a good team, they will give information related to the project so people can know that there is a legit project and people could feel safe to join with them.
jr. member
Activity: 224
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March 04, 2018, 05:42:10 AM
Hello everyone!

Today I've read a couple of articles and I've noticed that the most people are used to label each ICO as a scam. That is not fair, I know. Especially when you work in a startup launching ICO and do your best to make a project successful. However, having worked in ICO industry I learned how to recognize a scam just from one conversation with a Founder. I don't know how to explain this feeling. Probably, my subconscious translates knowledge, but I could not say a have a large experience.

So I decided to make a list of scam signs: (and this is just my own opinion)

- A founder and a team are not open.

Talking with a founder is always nice. They are usually full of energy and ready to talk about their project for hours. No matter how tired he/she is: when one is asking about a project, a founder starts talking about it with eyes burn with a fire. No matter who you are. When a founder deflects, tries to escape and avoids it makes you think that he/she just can't tell you anything important. What is more, it is crucial talking to a team. When a team member doesn't know how to answer a simple question about a product, it is also a bad sign.

In case of the lack of opportunity to visit an event and to talk to a team, you always can contact a founder and a team online. They should be open and answer patiently all your difficult questions. Even if you ask it every minute.

- Spending a lot of money on marketing isn't always show professionalism.

Just think. A company needs ICO to raise money for a company development. Isn't it a little bit queerly when an unknown company is too fancy. How? And Why? Why do they need ICO if they already have money on expensive advertisement? I don't know too  Huh

- You know nothing about a founder. And you cant find any information about him/her.

Always google the founder. Always. And now I'm not talking about his/her FB page. I'm talking about his experience, education, photos, events he took part in. A founder should not be a mysterious person who came from nowhere. His background should be open to everyone.

- They don't have a readymade product.

Let's make a sober recognition. The competition is high. In the end of 2017 - the beginning of 2018 you just can't appear with an idea and ask for money. You need to develop your product before ICO. It should not be an amazing one. It could be just prototype. But investors need something real. They need to touch and try your product. However, just 16% of all ICO has a product.

And what do you think about it? What are your signs of a scam?


Thank you for this information dude! It really help. Because if we fall to a scam ICO it will not only suck our money but Time, Effort, emotion as well. And those three cannot cannot be back.
full member
Activity: 518
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March 04, 2018, 05:18:40 AM
If i have to investigate my own as the legibility of an ICO, then i will go directly to the group of people or team behind the ICO. If am convinced that all their personal information are correct, then i will check and read their whitepaper if what was written their are realistic overall. And lastly, i want to check if they have their project's source code available on github.
full member
Activity: 378
Merit: 100
March 04, 2018, 04:59:54 AM
Hello everyone!

Today I've read a couple of articles and I've noticed that the most people are used to label each ICO as a scam. That is not fair, I know. Especially when you work in a startup launching ICO and do your best to make a project successful. However, having worked in ICO industry I learned how to recognize a scam just from one conversation with a Founder. I don't know how to explain this feeling. Probably, my subconscious translates knowledge, but I could not say a have a large experience.

So I decided to make a list of scam signs: (and this is just my own opinion)

- A founder and a team are not open.

Talking with a founder is always nice. They are usually full of energy and ready to talk about their project for hours. No matter how tired he/she is: when one is asking about a project, a founder starts talking about it with eyes burn with a fire. No matter who you are. When a founder deflects, tries to escape and avoids it makes you think that he/she just can't tell you anything important. What is more, it is crucial talking to a team. When a team member doesn't know how to answer a simple question about a product, it is also a bad sign.

In case of the lack of opportunity to visit an event and to talk to a team, you always can contact a founder and a team online. They should be open and answer patiently all your difficult questions. Even if you ask it every minute.

- Spending a lot of money on marketing isn't always show professionalism.

Just think. A company needs ICO to raise money for a company development. Isn't it a little bit queerly when an unknown company is too fancy. How? And Why? Why do they need ICO if they already have money on expensive advertisement? I don't know too  Huh

- You know nothing about a founder. And you cant find any information about him/her.

Always google the founder. Always. And now I'm not talking about his/her FB page. I'm talking about his experience, education, photos, events he took part in. A founder should not be a mysterious person who came from nowhere. His background should be open to everyone.

- They don't have a readymade product.

Let's make a sober recognition. The competition is high. In the end of 2017 - the beginning of 2018 you just can't appear with an idea and ask for money. You need to develop your product before ICO. It should not be an amazing one. It could be just prototype. But investors need something real. They need to touch and try your product. However, just 16% of all ICO has a product.

And what do you think about it? What are your signs of a scam?





My strategy to know if a certain thing is a scam is i always ask for a certificate , a licensed or a proof of legitimacy because they will deceive you to attract and lend a money with the nicest words and tease you for their company. But the greatest thing to know if a thing is a scam is you know what to have when they are offering, the strongest weapon for scam is a deep knowledge.
member
Activity: 224
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March 04, 2018, 03:30:51 AM
The best way to check the team behind the icon.from there you can see if have done other projects or not.cgeck what's the aim of the project what they aim to achieve and how they are trying to achieve it.check the website and if you are still not satisfied wait for a few days to see the response of the others.. nowadays there are many projects so check it throughly and then decide.
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 100
March 04, 2018, 03:04:34 AM
In recognizing if it is scam, asks some legal document to the group of people where they offer their product.
Don't invest to the company where the Founder or the creator of that group is hiding their real image or personality because absolutely they are the scammers.
full member
Activity: 406
Merit: 100
March 01, 2018, 01:12:06 PM
Scammers they can be everywhere and everywhere. Going out of the house and going to the store you sell a 3 times more expensive thing that is sold at a purchase price of a penny. The same principle here, everything is too good, then not everything will be a reality.

True, a project should look real
member
Activity: 252
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March 01, 2018, 12:09:25 PM
Scammers they can be everywhere and everywhere. Going out of the house and going to the store you sell a 3 times more expensive thing that is sold at a purchase price of a penny. The same principle here, everything is too good, then not everything will be a reality.
hero member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 534
March 01, 2018, 11:55:41 AM
Transparency is the core element that I check while determining the authenticity of any ICO or investment option. A few months ago I made a mistake by contributing to a translation process of one ICO ann topic without checking the background of the developer, I received the payment during the ICO in his coins but soon the developer vanished with his website and everything, I didn't lose my money but it was the worst experience for me still, I learn from it and I literally ignore every project where there is no transparency irrespective of potential of the same.
member
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March 01, 2018, 11:28:24 AM
Well, in the first place, the exact analysis of the site would not hurt, look at the work of managers, the table is updated. And in general, how much of what they promise.
full member
Activity: 406
Merit: 100
March 01, 2018, 11:23:29 AM
Thanks mate, i got inspiration about how to recognize scam after read your thread.
The thing i do is, when choosing the ICO, you must read and learn about their project carefully.

you are welcome =)
newbie
Activity: 196
Merit: 0
March 01, 2018, 10:05:05 AM
Thanks mate, i got inspiration about how to recognize scam after read your thread.
The thing i do is, when choosing the ICO, you must read and learn about their project carefully.
newbie
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Merit: 0
March 01, 2018, 09:22:05 AM
Well I figured is better to invest in a company that already has some kind of establishment or function going.  Investing will always have risk, just because a business fails does not mean it was a scam.  Look soon Ill be starting an ICO maybe,  The thing with these ICO, They take to much money and credit to themselves.  Look at Spectrocoin, they really need that much money?  There time frame is fine but that amount of money is a question.  I dont see that market very lucrative at this point to give them that much funding.  I have a product that is worth more then they are asking but I will not ask that much, because more money you get, can arrive more problems as well.
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