Topic: How to Reduce the Size of Government (Read 537 times)
I don't know that I believe in this joker. But there are people doing things. He has nothing to lose except for his life from a long-range .50 cal. bullet, from a gun that can shoot over a mile. https://kokeshforpresident.com/
Promise very little of times means something could be of done, this is the time we can actualy do something, if something is lost we could all lose something for ever.
"I, candidate Jon Doe, if I am elected president, promise to blah, blah, blah before the mid-date of my first term in office. In the event of my failure, I require my execution/life-imprisonment. Signed, candidate Jon Doe."
I'm very confident that no politician anywhere would ever sign anything like this....
Good point. Since they are all crooked enough that they won't sign something like this, we can all be sure that they are up to no good, and just taking the job for the money or power to pull something over on us.
When the country was set up... almost any country... there was penalty of death for those who took office... if they failed. In the USA, many of the patriots who set the country up died under strange circumstances.
Let the current suckers make a contract if they believe in what they are doing. Otherwise, shut the Federal Government down. I mean, who needs a bunch of liars ruling over them? I sure don't over me.
"I, candidate Jon Doe, if I am elected president, promise to blah, blah, blah before the mid-date of my first term in office. In the event of my failure, I require my execution/life-imprisonment. Signed, candidate Jon Doe."
I'm very confident that no politician anywhere would ever sign anything like this....
All the States except Louisiana have an acknowledgement of the Federal Constitution right in their founding documents... their constitutions or agreements for statehood with the US gov. But this isn't enough. The States should add a clause that cannot be removed, rescinded, repealed that states that the State will always accept the rights for the people as detailed in portions of the Federal Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Once this is done, the Federal Government can be abolished, because the States are of a size and ability that they can govern themselves without Fed Gov. All that Fed Gov is doing is leaching off the States. Get rid of the leach, but keep its good parts - freedom and rights for the people - and let the people of each State control their location.
There is enough interstate communication between the governing people of all the States, right now, to maintain fairness for each State and its people. It's the Fed Gov that is making trouble for everybody.
there is a problem, that smb, who already has the political power, has to lose it by its own decision, its pretty hard to imagine, and again, why noone is talking about destroying the government's monopoly for the violence on the land, its the only way, which will reduce the government, cuz while government has no competition on the current land it's monopoly, and monopoly will do everything monopoly owner wantsOnce this is done, the Federal Government can be abolished, because the States are of a size and ability that they can govern themselves without Fed Gov. All that Fed Gov is doing is leaching off the States. Get rid of the leach, but keep its good parts - freedom and rights for the people - and let the people of each State control their location.
There is enough interstate communication between the governing people of all the States, right now, to maintain fairness for each State and its people. It's the Fed Gov that is making trouble for everybody.
Actually, no.
The 6th and 7th Amendments uphold the right to trial by jury. The 9th Amendment protects all the rights of the people that the Constitution doesn't mention:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Since the jury trial was available under common law before the Constitution or the Articles of Confederation (pre-Constitution Constitution), all it takes is a jury vote of the people to dissolve the Federal Government, or any part thereof.
Perhaps that wouldn't be a priority or a need if we focused on the current vacants , It just feels impossible to say anything when theres such chaos.
All the States except Louisiana have an acknowledgement of the Federal Constitution right in their founding documents... their constitutions or agreements for statehood with the US gov. But this isn't enough. The States should add a clause that cannot be removed, rescinded, repealed that states that the State will always accept the rights for the people as detailed in portions of the Federal Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Once this is done, the Federal Government can be abolished, because the States are of a size and ability that they can govern themselves without Fed Gov. All that Fed Gov is doing is leaching off the States. Get rid of the leach, but keep its good parts - freedom and rights for the people - and let the people of each State control their location.
There is enough interstate communication between the governing people of all the States, right now, to maintain fairness for each State and its people. It's the Fed Gov that is making trouble for everybody.
there is a problem, that smb, who already has the political power, has to lose it by its own decision, its pretty hard to imagine, and again, why noone is talking about destroying the government's monopoly for the violence on the land, its the only way, which will reduce the government, cuz while government has no competition on the current land it's monopoly, and monopoly will do everything monopoly owner wants Once this is done, the Federal Government can be abolished, because the States are of a size and ability that they can govern themselves without Fed Gov. All that Fed Gov is doing is leaching off the States. Get rid of the leach, but keep its good parts - freedom and rights for the people - and let the people of each State control their location.
There is enough interstate communication between the governing people of all the States, right now, to maintain fairness for each State and its people. It's the Fed Gov that is making trouble for everybody.
All the States except Louisiana have an acknowledgement of the Federal Constitution right in their founding documents... their constitutions or agreements for statehood with the US gov. But this isn't enough. The States should add a clause that cannot be removed, rescinded, repealed that states that the State will always accept the rights for the people as detailed in portions of the Federal Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Once this is done, the Federal Government can be abolished, because the States are of a size and ability that they can govern themselves without Fed Gov. All that Fed Gov is doing is leaching off the States. Get rid of the leach, but keep its good parts - freedom and rights for the people - and let the people of each State control their location.
There is enough interstate communication between the governing people of all the States, right now, to maintain fairness for each State and its people. It's the Fed Gov that is making trouble for everybody.
Once this is done, the Federal Government can be abolished, because the States are of a size and ability that they can govern themselves without Fed Gov. All that Fed Gov is doing is leaching off the States. Get rid of the leach, but keep its good parts - freedom and rights for the people - and let the people of each State control their location.
There is enough interstate communication between the governing people of all the States, right now, to maintain fairness for each State and its people. It's the Fed Gov that is making trouble for everybody.
there are a bunch of ways, but there is a one main problem, why minarchism, classical liberalism and etc are not working. the government is always becoming bigger, than it was before, thats why the only solution of this problem, which i have found is FOCJ(functional overlapping competing jurisdictions) and Panarchy(aka Polystate)
For the right democracy, let every people vote everyday for every issues in the parliament.
We have done so much in technology, everyone has a smartphone on their hands.
50% turnout should be must and 50% to pass a normal proposition. 2/3 for serious issues.
We have done so much in technology, everyone has a smartphone on their hands.
50% turnout should be must and 50% to pass a normal proposition. 2/3 for serious issues.
In a democracy...
The majority who wins the vote essentially makes slaves of the minority who lose the vote. Is this fair to the minority?
The majority who wins the vote turns over their power to a small group of people who are supposed to enforce the items voted on. This small group might do what they were told, somewhat, but mostly they do whatever they want. So, the requirements of the majority don't get done, and the wishes of the minority don't get done, either.
What we get is a dictatorial group ruling over both, the majority and the minority.
The goal to aim for is this. Total freedom for everyone, except if he harms someone else or damages his property. This means that the job of government is to issue all kinds of warnings, but never punish anyone, except if there is harm or damage done... REAL harm... not things like the stupid little pickings on people for saying bad words.
Why this? Because it makes everyone his own government so that we have true freedom.
We start to implement the freedom by making the voting platform a contract with the elected. We make it serious by demanding execution for not fulfilling the contract. This isn't the only thing we do. But it is a start.
For the right democracy, let every people vote everyday for every issues in the parliament.
We have done so much in technology, everyone has a smartphone on their hands.
50% turnout should be must and 50% to pass a normal proposition. 2/3 for serious issues.
But the one who need to implement this are the one who get suffers if its gets implemented,so I don't think it will be implemented. We have done so much in technology, everyone has a smartphone on their hands.
50% turnout should be must and 50% to pass a normal proposition. 2/3 for serious issues.
For the right democracy, let every people vote everyday for every issues in the parliament.
We have done so much in technology, everyone has a smartphone on their hands.
50% turnout should be must and 50% to pass a normal proposition. 2/3 for serious issues.
We have done so much in technology, everyone has a smartphone on their hands.
50% turnout should be must and 50% to pass a normal proposition. 2/3 for serious issues.
^^^ If you reduce the size of government down to the garbage collector, the IRS will already be gone, and without taxes and regulations, everybody will be their own private contractor.
when there is no government everyone will spend horrific amounts of money to protect his private property
. You forget two major things:
1. We are spending it now, out of control;
2. Nobody says we can't increase the size of Government when we need to, but under complete control, via contract, rather than the free reign we give to the people who run our lives.
Actually, we can essentially cancel the Government right now (in the USA) with Private Membership Associations. And it's all perfectly legal. But I will leave the method for this to your imagination. All you need to do is think a little.
^^^ If you reduce the size of government down to the garbage collector, the IRS will already be gone, and without taxes and regulations, everybody will be their own private contractor.
when there is no government everyone will spend horrific amounts of money to protect his private property
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^^^ If you reduce the size of government down to the garbage collector, the IRS will already be gone, and without taxes and regulations, everybody will be their own private contractor.
when there is no government everyone will spend horrific amounts of money to protect his private property
This is barbaric
You are suggesting how to fight false promises not how to reduce government size.
Since the tittle talk about size of government, I want to say that the main problem of Government size is that people working there are not motivated to reach goals compared to private sector.
You are suggesting how to fight false promises not how to reduce government size.
Since the tittle talk about size of government, I want to say that the main problem of Government size is that people working there are not motivated to reach goals compared to private sector.
There are many problems with the government's size. Mainly, there's too many people behind each MP, people who are getting paid for helping him decide what to do and sometimes even do his job for him. Do we vote for our representatives or for their teams of secretaries and assistants. If there's 20 people working for every MP, maybe the number of MPs could be cut in half? The result would still be the same.
They aren't motivated because it's usually not their only job. In most countries MPs work part time. In the old days these jobs were given to aristocrats and it had some interesting benefits. For instance, aristocrats had a lot of money and weren't motivated by greed and much harder to bribe. You had to put really big money on the table to make them change their minds. Nowadays, when poor people suddenly come to power they can be pretty easy to "persuade". Also, aristocrats were taking politics pretty seriously, as it was their only job apart from hunting, partying and various sports and arts and were pretty well educated. These days every moron can become an MP because we have equality, which means that there has to be a member of every minority, sex, religion and even sexual preference in every group.
This sounds crazy and futuristic
Let the platform that a candidate runs on be a contract with the people. When he is elected, if he doesn't do what he said in his platform contract, execution. If he is literally stopped by the opposition from a timely follow-through, so it isn't entirely his fault, life in prison immediately.
When the next person in line takes over after the first guy has been executed/imprisoned, he has a choice. Fulfill the platform contract of the first guy, be executed/imprisoned like the first guy... except if he voluntarily immediately resigns without taking office.
When the next person in line takes over after the first guy has been executed/imprisoned, he has a choice. Fulfill the platform contract of the first guy, be executed/imprisoned like the first guy... except if he voluntarily immediately resigns without taking office.
This is barbaric
You are suggesting how to fight false promises not how to reduce government size.
Since the tittle talk about size of government, I want to say that the main problem of Government size is that people working there are not motivated to reach goals compared to private sector.
"Execution"
Number of candidates drops close to 0.
Anyway, a less brutal option about it is to put heavy restriction on anyone applying for office to deter people that might abuse their position. We need something more than simply divesting.
Number of candidates drops close to 0.
Anyway, a less brutal option about it is to put heavy restriction on anyone applying for office to deter people that might abuse their position. We need something more than simply divesting.
First one should be able to be sure the elections are fair and that people isn't influenciated by any mean and that is impossible. Then you need to know that the money the government manages is employed towards the country or it's interest.
Enviromental care should be a priority independent of wealth.
Could go on for a while but I feel it would be pointless.
Enviromental care should be a priority independent of wealth.
Could go on for a while but I feel it would be pointless.
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