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December 08, 2018, 05:24:35 PM
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January 27, 2018, 12:16:15 PM
#36
Only Lauda can remove it.

Well i have pm'ed Lauda..

I think he seems don't cares. (by see Lauda's last login.)
lauda is the real spammer. they run a group of members who always do this such things to other account. LAUDA,PATATAS are in that group.
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January 06, 2018, 07:15:24 AM
#35
If you have any questions about when or why Lauda will leave negative trust, I would advise reviewing this video.

LOL this seriously shows how much butt-hurt you are after you got bombarded with negative trust. I still wonder how you are here on this forum and manage to troll around without any issues. Grin

You seriously need to lock yourself up inside a room and think about what you have done to farm trust in this forum. Now dont go around ranting about why Lauda is anti-Christ and how they "extorted" others. Those have become pretty old now - QS needs to try something new. Wink
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January 06, 2018, 03:24:52 AM
#34
If you have any questions about when or why Lauda will leave negative trust, I would advise reviewing this video.
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January 01, 2018, 01:53:44 AM
#33
Now, if it had been you, that someone on default trust decided to neg, and you weren't on the DT yourself, I would imagine you'd be fairly ticked off that there would be little to nothing you could do about it, especially if you had not violated the written rules.
Huh.

"Q: Why haven't you banned who is an obvious scammer?
A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions."

src: here

DT shouldn't tag me with a negative trust because I scammed! It's not on the rules and I violated nothing! Roll Eyes
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December 31, 2017, 01:36:47 PM
#32
Launda is a moderator in BTT. There are rules governing the forum. When you knowingly or unknowingly break a rule, the moderator will give you a negative trust. It is a way to check the activities of forum members. If such trust is giving in "error", you take the time to politely explain yourself. If the person that gave you the negative trust is convinced of your reasons the negative trust will definitely be removed.

No, being a moderator and being on DT (DefaultTrust) are two different things.

If you can take a minute to try and stop filling your post quota, you might take some time to read:  Roll Eyes
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/marketplace-trust-211858


Thanks for the information and update. But I can see some reason for a negative trust in this paragraph:

The first number is the user's trust score calculated based on how consistently they've received positive feedback. Probably no one will get a score above 0 until the system has been around for at least a month. The second number is the number of reported scams. The third number increases with the number of positive reports, as does the fourth number in parenthesis, though the fourth number is more resistant to abuse. This text changes color depending on the score. Users with a negative score (attainable through scamming) get a red warning attached to their posts.

I think this statement is being interpreted as PERCEIVED scam.

What then can be done in a situation where it is perceived scam rather than a scam?
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December 28, 2017, 11:02:27 PM
#31
Launda is a moderator in BTT. There are rules governing the forum. When you knowingly or unknowingly break a rule, the moderator will give you a negative trust. It is a way to check the activities of forum members. If such trust is giving in "error", you take the time to politely explain yourself. If the person that gave you the negative trust is convinced of your reasons the negative trust will definitely be removed.

No, being a moderator and being on DT (DefaultTrust) are two different things.

If you can take a minute to try and stop filling your post quota, you might take some time to read:  Roll Eyes
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/marketplace-trust-211858

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December 28, 2017, 11:26:04 AM
#30
Launda is a moderator in BTT. There are rules governing the forum. When you knowingly or unknowingly break a rule, the moderator will give you a negative trust. It is a way to check the activities of forum members. If such trust is giving in "error", you take the time to politely explain yourself. If the person that gave you the negative trust is convinced of your reasons the negative trust will definitely be removed.
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December 27, 2017, 07:11:34 PM
#29
As you can probably see by now, there is no possible way to remove the negative trust yourself. If you could, what is the point of the trust system as it is?

Lauda is strict on account sales and the cancer behind such a business, ergo I see little to no chance in getting your account's trust back to neutral.

For the record, I think selling accounts "should" be against the rules ~

I see it the same way, however Theymos doesn't seem like he is willing to do anything about it. I think it is time this forum got an update: Trust system, new rules... etc.

Honestly couldn't agree more.  It's unfortunate that the "premier" BTC site hasn't gotten an overhaul in the trust system and probably in a few more, probably more necessary, ways.

Really, if you make a career out of short-selling, and you see BTC is available to short now on the CBOE and you have no experience with crypto and come here to learn, well....you might feel all the actors are a bit sketchy.

Someone with some oomph will fill the void though.
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December 27, 2017, 06:47:35 PM
#28
As you can probably see by now, there is no possible way to remove the negative trust yourself. If you could, what is the point of the trust system as it is?

Lauda is strict on account sales and the cancer behind such a business, ergo I see little to no chance in getting your account's trust back to neutral.

For the record, I think selling accounts "should" be against the rules ~

I see it the same way, however Theymos doesn't seem like he is willing to do anything about it. I think it is time this forum got an update: Trust system, new rules... etc.
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December 27, 2017, 06:35:52 PM
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For the record, I think selling accounts "should" be against the rules, the problem is, it isn't actually against the rules of this forum.  It is in bad taste, a bad practice in my opinion, and does deserve a negative reputation to be given (if it were indeed against posted rules of the forum).  Since it is not actually against the posted rules of the forum, just a sort of tribal ruleset (that I personally do agree with) then negative trust being given because of doing something "inside" the rules is more of a violation.

If someone wishes to give negative trust (red) for selling accounts, let's first address the issue that it should be against the rules, amend the rules, and then start handing out red, not before.  Just my opinion.
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December 18, 2017, 02:57:13 AM
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OP wants an explanation how did he get a neg rep from a DT member, He explains like "why do I have to get a neg rep, I'm just selling my account" LOL funniest joke for a full member. How did you get into a full member not knowing that selling account is prohibited. And now statements above my post reply asking for removal of neg rep, well if you disobey, neg rep  is irrevocable and no need to explain, period.
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December 16, 2017, 01:37:47 AM
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I think you might misunderstand me, or I you, sorry if that's the case, because I have no alts here.  If I did, and used them for some underhanded purpose, even if within the actual forum rules, I honestly wouldn't feel fit to make a peep about anyone else.  That would be rather hypocritical of me, or ANYONE else that did so, whether they see / admit to it, or not.
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December 15, 2017, 06:48:38 PM
#24
Sorry to disappoint you, but no "legion of alts" here, that sounds kind of like a bad DC comics title, lol.

I am familiar with how to edit the default trust list and have done that, and honestly, once people do some business around the forum and feel they can reasonably decide for themselves, they should do so.  Not quite sure why you are arguing that, as I previously mentioned that, or it could at least be assumed from my previous "make your own trust" statement.  To further illustrate my point though, when I have mentioned it before, probably months ago, Lauda actually replied that would be foolish.  So, though you seem to be on the bandwagon with them, you apparently more agree with me.

Again, sorry to disappoint, but as for being a third-world poster, I am not from Chicago.

Well the current situations that happened for those alts sanctioned with negative trust, I suggest that you should make an apology to the one whose provided you a red trust. Because if that will be a big case against you, I think you don't deserve an appeal of removing red trust on the profile you have. Its clear that having alts or breaking the rules in this forum will have a deeper penalty, which could leads you to be given red trust from a high reputation manager.
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December 15, 2017, 03:05:42 PM
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Sorry to disappoint you, but no "legion of alts" here, that sounds kind of like a bad DC comics title, lol.

I am familiar with how to edit the default trust list and have done that, and honestly, once people do some business around the forum and feel they can reasonably decide for themselves, they should do so.  Not quite sure why you are arguing that, as I previously mentioned that, or it could at least be assumed from my previous "make your own trust" statement.  To further illustrate my point though, when I have mentioned it before, probably months ago, Lauda actually replied that would be foolish.  So, though you seem to be on the bandwagon with them, you apparently more agree with me.

Again, sorry to disappoint, but as for being a third-world poster, I am not from Chicago.
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December 15, 2017, 09:32:37 AM
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I don't care if you make a statement on it one way or the other, I simply presented the question.  If a reader of BTCTalk doesn't have the common sense to read the archives for themselves or actually read some of the "Trust" ratings you have been given in the past, that is on them.
The only person who does not have commen sense is you and your legion of alts. Go away from this forum if you dont like. I know you will be back because you third world shitposters dont have lives to lead and are begging around for every single penny that you can acquire.
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If I totally disconnected from it personally, then I would have to say that there is so much smoke, there might be a little bit of fire, and I'd steer clear in anyway that involved finances.
Account sales lead to shitposting as is prevelant in the entire forum. In case you dont know this then do so because its pretty late anyway.

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I enjoy a good few rounds of BlackJack, but I don't love gambling enough to trust blindly, I make my own and trust no default.
Then make your own trust list. There is the option to edit your trust list. The default list is supplied by theymos when anyone signs up on the website. If you fell they are untrustworthy then just remove them from the list.
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December 14, 2017, 06:24:34 PM
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I don't care if you make a statement on it one way or the other, I simply presented the question.  If a reader of BTCTalk doesn't have the common sense to read the archives for themselves or actually read some of the "Trust" ratings you have been given in the past, that is on them.

If I totally disconnected from it personally, then I would have to say that there is so much smoke, there might be a little bit of fire, and I'd steer clear in anyway that involved finances.

I enjoy a good few rounds of BlackJack, but I don't love gambling enough to trust blindly, I make my own and trust no default.
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December 14, 2017, 06:03:54 PM
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Now, if it had been you, that someone on default trust decided to neg, and you weren't on the DT yourself, I would imagine you'd be fairly ticked off that there would be little to nothing you could do about it, especially if you had not violated the written rules.
Let me guess: You want me to make a statement on this, then let QS alt #94884 proceed to dig up a 4 year old post that is contradictory to what I stated in today? Cheesy Not-again.



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December 14, 2017, 06:00:42 PM
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Actually, I do understand the trust system as it relates to BTCTalk, and because I am aware of how it works I believe it can be manipulated.  That said, you didn't answer the question, not that I really asked you, it was a bit rhetorical, considering that the accusations are attached to your account.  

Now, if it had been you, that someone on default trust decided to neg, and you weren't on the DT yourself, I would imagine you'd be fairly ticked off that there would be little to nothing you could do about it, especially if you had not violated the written rules.

Just one reference, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24709890

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December 14, 2017, 03:57:59 AM
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I do have a serious question though, November 2016, am I reading it wrong that someone accused Lauda of selling an account / accounts?


Personally, I don't like account selling, period, it just leads to all sorts of bad behaviour, however, it not being against the "rules", just an arbitrary persons guidelines seems like abuse of the Default Trust system to me.
In that case you don't understand the trust system and shouldn't make uneducated statements.
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December 13, 2017, 11:41:25 PM
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I always get a little bit confused by threads like this, and I make it no secret that I disagree with how Lauda does things.  I do have a serious question though, November 2016, am I reading it wrong that someone accused Lauda of selling an account / accounts?

Personally, I don't like account selling, period, it just leads to all sorts of bad behaviour, however, it not being against the "rules", just an arbitrary persons guidelines seems like abuse of the Default Trust system to me.
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December 13, 2017, 11:28:03 PM
#16
lauda also gave me redtrust  Lips sealed

just like you, because I sell the account.
I don't know, if it sells that account should not be.

but I have a reason,why I sell my account. because at that time I really need money to pay the hospital

this is the only account I have.

this account makes money,by following the signature,because I do not work real.

Sorry, because I sell my account.

I will not repeat anymore.

sory lauda Smiley



As has been stated time and time again, it is not against forum rules to sell accounts. However a substantial number of us do not condone account sales, and if we catch you doing it, we will leave appropriate feedback. This is nothing personal.

Your account belongs to you only, and it should never be sold to anyone else for your financial gain. Needing money for hospital is not a legitimate reason to sell your account. If you have an emergency in real life, then you should have an "emergency fund" for these things, or be speaking to relatives.

Yeah, that's the big point of selling accounts. Our account is important to us. Some buyers of accounts don't do good on this forum. More of them are scammers, spammers, replying off topic from a thread just to have post counts. Ive noticed many times here in the forum reach a higher rank with a low quality postings. They only come here for money they don't know what is the forum all about. That's the reason why now its prohibited.
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December 13, 2017, 02:43:58 AM
#15
Stop paying attention to that shitface Lauda because that little piece of shit likes to bask in it every day. The best way to let this attention whore die is to press the ignore button and forget this wretched idiot ever existed  Grin
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December 12, 2017, 11:09:53 PM
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lauda please remove my red trust because im pm you to join your coinpayment campaign but i dont know why you give me redtrust T_T
Your post quality is so poor that you ought to be banned, not to mention your red trust should never be removed.  You add absolutely nothing of value to bitcointalk. And again, I can't speak for Lauda but good luck (I don't mean that) trying to get that feedback removed.  We'll all probably run out of bitcoin addresses and the universe will have expanded and contracted fully multiple times before that happens.  People like you and OP are the reasons why bitcointalk is currently sucking the way it does, and both of your types need to be purged from the system before it can be restored to greatness.
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December 12, 2017, 03:59:45 AM
#13
Well, lauds considers you untrustworthy for selling your account and your account could have been used for malicious purposes after it is sold if the new owner isn't honest about his business. That is why he gave you the negative trust.

There is no way of removing your negative trust, unless Lauda decides to remove it themselves.

Do some good to the community, stay active. If you can prove that you're trustworthy again i think he'll be happy to remove it eventually.
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December 11, 2017, 09:40:03 PM
#12
I will not repeat anymore.

sory lauda Smiley
No offense, but I deal with alcoholics & drug addicts all day long who say the same thing:  I won't do it again, I promise.  They tell their mothers, wives, husbands, everyone this same thing.  And then they go out and get drunk or die of a heroin overdose.  Promises are empty words I'm tired of, and on the internet those promises are even more worthless if that's even possible.  Any story about a sick relative is 99% of the time going to be interpreted as complete bullshit by most people--it's one of the most overused excuses for everything.  I wouldn't buy it, Lauda probably isn't going to buy it, and your sick g-mother would probably laugh in your face, too.  So good luck trying to erase the red.

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December 11, 2017, 09:31:57 AM
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lauda also gave me redtrust  Lips sealed

just like you, because I sell the account.
I don't know, if it sells that account should not be.

but I have a reason,why I sell my account. because at that time I really need money to pay the hospital

this is the only account I have.

this account makes money,by following the signature,because I do not work real.

Sorry, because I sell my account.

I will not repeat anymore.

sory lauda Smiley



As has been stated time and time again, it is not against forum rules to sell accounts. However a substantial number of us do not condone account sales, and if we catch you doing it, we will leave appropriate feedback. This is nothing personal.

Your account belongs to you only, and it should never be sold to anyone else for your financial gain. Needing money for hospital is not a legitimate reason to sell your account. If you have an emergency in real life, then you should have an "emergency fund" for these things, or be speaking to relatives.

yes, I promise not to repeat again  Smiley

I already borrowed money with relatives for pay the hospital.



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December 11, 2017, 09:24:21 AM
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lauda also gave me redtrust  Lips sealed

just like you, because I sell the account.
I don't know, if it sells that account should not be.

but I have a reason,why I sell my account. because at that time I really need money to pay the hospital

this is the only account I have.

this account makes money,by following the signature,because I do not work real.

Sorry, because I sell my account.

I will not repeat anymore.

sory lauda Smiley



As has been stated time and time again, it is not against forum rules to sell accounts. However a substantial number of us do not condone account sales, and if we catch you doing it, we will leave appropriate feedback. This is nothing personal.

Your account belongs to you only, and it should never be sold to anyone else for your financial gain. Needing money for hospital is not a legitimate reason to sell your account. If you have an emergency in real life, then you should have an "emergency fund" for these things, or be speaking to relatives.
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December 11, 2017, 04:52:46 AM
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lauda also gave me redtrust  Lips sealed

just like you, because I sell the account.
I don't know, if it sells that account should not be.

but I have a reason,why I sell my account. because at that time I really need money to pay the hospital

this is the only account I have.

this account makes money,by following the signature,because I do not work real.

Sorry, because I sell my account.

I will not repeat anymore.

sory lauda Smiley

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December 11, 2017, 04:41:29 AM
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you can pm lauda and apology, and you promise not selling your account again

You are new to this forum and I guess that is why you are not aware of this but let me explain it.

This forum is full of third world shitposters who enroll thousands of alt account in the bounty and signature campaigns because its free and its easy money. Beggars throughout these countries idiotically post through the forum hoping to get some "free cash" by spamming the forum. That is why the DT2 members have started to give negative rating to those who are caught in account sales.

There is no need to contact Lauda for this. Because I can guarantee that Lauda wont remove the rating....ever. The DT2 members try their level best to keep spam in the forum at bay and trust me its not easy. They get probably more than an thousand PMs everyday begging them with sob stories like "I will starve to death if I dont earn *freecash* from signature campaigns" to even death threats like "I hope you get cancer!"

Its a massive responsibility on them.

However some shithole spammer is always there to buy new accounts and continue to spam the forum.
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December 11, 2017, 02:45:04 AM
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Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming.

This is my only account. This account even used my very private E-mail (for school, Bank, family,etc).

Recently i'm posting on local board indonesia "Jual Beli" (Market).
I want to sell my account because i'm tired. And want to focus on trading.
But, Lauda give me red trust that maybe even didnot read my thread (in Indonesia language).

Spam? : i think i never spam. you can check my recents post.
Acount farming? : i even didnot know how to farming account or what is farming account and the benefits.

Are selling account is illegal here?
Anyone have a issues like me?, how to handle it?


I have PM Lauda, he seems not care.

NB: Sorry for my bad english

you can pm lauda and apology, and you promise not selling your account again
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December 11, 2017, 02:03:54 AM
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Yeah i know :'3 ...good for you bad news for me.  Roll Eyes


which is why the feedback heshititweyouthey left is not likely to be removed.  
*insert thank you gif*.
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December 11, 2017, 12:37:55 AM
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Only Lauda can remove it.
Lauda does care about the forum
This.

which is why the feedback heshititweyouthey left is not likely to be removed. 
*insert thank you gif*.
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December 10, 2017, 09:37:36 PM
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Only Lauda can remove it.

Well i have pm'ed Lauda..

I think he seems don't cares. (by see Lauda's last login.)
Lauda does care about the forum, which is why the feedback heshititweyouthey left is not likely to be removed.  Account selling is a cancer to this forum, which has metastasized to many, many users.  There are no good outcomes from selling accounts, and it's basically people just looking for an activity/rank that they did not earn themselves and it usually leads to either 1) Scamming, or 2) Shitposting in a signature campaign.  Enjoy your red trust, buddy boy.

It is NOT against the rules to sell accounts, but that doesn't mean it's trustworthy behavior.  It is not.  And there are DT members who are taking it seriously and tagging buyers & sellers of accounts.  It is a laudable action, IMO and I applaud anyone who negs an account farmer/buyer/seller.
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December 10, 2017, 09:22:11 PM
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Only Lauda can remove it.

Well i have pm'ed Lauda..

I think he seems don't cares. (by see Lauda's last login.)
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Only Lauda can remove it.
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Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming.

This is my only account. This account even used my very private E-mail (for school, Bank, family,etc).

Recently i'm posting on local board indonesia "Jual Beli" (Market).
I want to sell my account because i'm tired. And want to focus on trading.
But, Lauda give me red trust that maybe even didnot read my thread (in Indonesia language).

Spam? : i think i never spam. you can check my recents post.
Acount farming? : i even didnot know how to farming account or what is farming account and the benefits.

Are selling account is illegal here?
Anyone have a issues like me?, how to handle it?


I have PM Lauda, he seems not care.

NB: Sorry for my bad english
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