Topic: How to sell yourserlf to potential advertisers | sales pitches included (Read 897 times)

For the broad and detailed answers you usually give, you haven't gone into much detail. In my post that you quote I had understood that you sent PMs to Royse777 so that he would hire you and the other thing he says is that you also boasted of your achievements.

It would be nice if you could specify if it is one thing, or both, and why. For example, maybe you didn't send those PMs to Royse777 but then you would have sent them to another manager and the other manager forwarded them to him?

Or maybe in your pitch you don't consider that there is boasting but a way to present your bitcointalk journey in a way that you understand could be appetizing for potential recruiters.

You are incorrect.

That wasn't hard, was it? After all we are on a newbies board, they need to learn from the grown ups, now be the better man and let bygones be bygones, water under the bridge. This move seems a great lesson for newbies to learn. This is the way of life we should promote around here.

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Now just kiss and get on with it, chop chop. 😉

I should have ask for the permission and since you want an apology from me. May I have one and let it go?
Let me know.

Agreed, we should let these pitty shenanigans slide, but that last statement about provoking, man my man, such a great advice for newbies and future legendaries, do not provoke reputable members, or deranged trolls unnecessarily, sometimes it's good if you practice what you preach. 😉

Another suggestion on how to sell yourself successfully:

Do not wear an avatar of an alligator looking at your post counts and dreaming about coins, that is just embarrassing. Lol. 

Just for clarity sake, first of all when I noticed the subject title of the thread I thought it would be nothing more than a sales pitch for a campaign manager because he will be searching for more businesses after he loses out when the mixer ban is placed. I expected he will not do much else except brag about his so-called exploits for various brands including yet another massive misstep by defining Sinbad as a successful brand but it turns out Royse777 is doing something else.

Instead of bragging about his so-called campaign manager exploits it seems that this thread has been created with specific intent to cause friction. All of the drama contained within this thread was unnecessary yet Royse777 decided to deliberately provoke two respected forum members (icopress and GazetaBitcoin) when there was no need.

This is what I was saying as well. It is not because people cannot do all those things Royes777 but for the fear of others made them to be silent. And that is why some people are posting in a silent way. And one thing again, even though you didn't publish your achievements in the public and only good or quality writings is enough to market yourself. In a good norm, your performance in the forum make you to be known and make you popular. If you are writing qualitatively, managers will just detect you and pm you, and if you are quality posters you don't have to pm a manager to be hired. Just do your things on a free mins and move on. The fear of the unknown is making people to restrict some kind things they would have done. Because when something happened to one or two persons then other became cautious and conscious about. Here in the forum we have seen accounts are tagged because of their inputs on matters which probably higher than their ranks and they talked well and for that they were accused of alt and tagged. And for the fear of all that people restrict themselves from many discussion.

Marketing oneself  is good but not everybody see things the way others see it. Many see it from different perspective so if anyone wants to market themselves, they have to look into the output of the future before taking such decision. It is not bad to market yourself but people say, "hmmm", "as if he is good". And with that, "one man downfall is another man happiness". We have seen what happened to someone in the forum recently. So doing things in a low key is one of the best.

That's a very detailed post. Incredible. You are really a businessman. A person like that can be successful anywhere in the world, not only in this forum. With a mindset like that, you can open up a youtube channel, show people how you slice potatoes and still be successful.

I never really liked the idea of using this forum to make business deals especially because I have a business already which keeps me busy all day everyday... (sig camp is just a side income to pay some bills for me)

As you said, owning a business takes everything to another level which wage workers will never know unless they try the same thing.

You talked about "lending money". While it has the risks you explained, there is another one: "usury" (asking too much interest) -which is a crime in many countries and may get you in big trouble. I saw a thread where USDT lending rate was more than 50% annually. This is pretty risky from all sides. It is unlicensed banking in some way.

I had previously taken this message from the other thread as sarcastic or something, but I see that you mean it, and I don't quite see the point of it, because on the one hand no one in the campaign has complained about it, and on the other hand, if I had the funds I would be very careful to move them even if it was to make a single transaction for you. I would have probably looked for legal advice, but it wouldn't have taken me long to find it, I think two weeks maximum, but maybe Royse777 is not in the same situation and it will take him longer to find it.

On the other hand, if the one who is questioning my having the funds is someone you yourself qualify as " trolls who publish delusional assumptions" I wouldn't worry in the slightest, but you have forgotten Gazeta, who I'm sure you don't qualify as a troll.


With this I agree and what is emphasized in bold seems to me to be key.

Did I give permission to publish my PMs? (even though these PMs are about 1.5 years old).

Btw, I understand what you are getting at and why you published my PMs, but you will not be able to mislead the forum users because, unlike you, I did not send letters of proposals to any project if any of them had an active signature campaign.

In addition, considering that these PMs are “very old”, and that I am aware of who I sent such PMs to, I am convinced that you have access not only to your account, but also to the accounts of your clients. Therefore, with this gesture you only showed that any private correspondence with you or with your clients cannot be confidential.

I suggest you apologize for the slander, and for the fact that you published my PMs without permission and let it go. Moreover, to actually show my intentions, I also made a proposal that will allow you to get rid of the trolls who publish delusional assumptions about your misappropriation of Sinbad campaign funds.

Great write up!

But where does the line start and stop when it comes to unsolicited private messages as this could get one banned under the guise of "PM Ad Spam " , and I dont think several managers here would appreciate receiving such kind of  messages from everyone of which many explicitly state don't apply via PM... btw this shows a user wants special treatment and should this be the roadmap everyone needs to take going forward ??

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Btw this section is one interesting one , no offense:
"What I can tell you about me is the following:" I think for some campaigns what you have to say under here can get you a sig slot probably for certain campaigns that require onboarding technical users and land you a custom deal , but for services such as gambling can technical  users that don't gamble get such a gig i don't think so..because if I was a CM I dont think such a user would really be the perfect fit for such a job...just my 2cents...

This is more than just what you see, you have to know the reason why the OP gave all those sample scripts (which apparently weren't censored at all). This script should not come out of their privacy space.

@Royse777, if I get banned know it was your fault, because I'm going to compile a list of all of my achievements and put it on one of your scripts just to pass it on as my resume on every possible occasion I can find. (Publicly, not via PM). For transparency. 😉

There is a lot of good juice to be extracted from this very lengthy text. I am not interested in the squabble between some members that is being suggested in the comments section. like the idea of selling yourself and I have thoughts about how I can do that. I think for now the best step is to simply do what these top posters or recruitable members of the forum do. This is saying that success is replicable so it will be a bad idea  notto replicate their success.

How can these things not come to you naturally? I mean I have at least 4 more effective methods to reach the top, get into DT, campaigns etc, here is the tip, copy whatever active DTs do, you will succeed, I mean, this is a reasonable trade off, have you seen hippos? how they get their teeth and skin cleaned? That's what they are, those little birdies cleaning the hippo and earn their food by doing so. You could rarely see the birdies attack each other and when you see it, you should grab as much popcorn as you can. Lol

If you were to sell this guideline to bitcointalk users with a price of $100/copy, I'm sure you would be able to sell at least 100 copies. I purchased less valuable guidelines on internet, from which I couldn't even make money at all lol.

This is True but let be Frank are you sure this would really be the script because here all I see is how excellent Icopress and GazetaBitcoin are :
Icopress is among the most excellent campaign managers adding his resume makes it more helpful guide because both Royse777 and Icopress started from somewhere but see how far they both have gone as a campaign manager here it been wonderful and gaining insight from both is wonderful.
About the GazetaBitcoin, why would he be pick here, all of can say it is because it is Gazeta, like how many would have been able to write such an excellent resume like this I guess he is the best for the guide.

@Royse777 thanks for this God bless you, this is really an excellent guide especially to those thinking of becoming a campaign manager but we all see that a great fame and Trust here on btt comes when you contributes continously to growth and orderliness of the Forum, I will try to contribute more significantly now though and also continue in my learning of the technical aspect of bitcoin

Royse777 it is wrong for you to bring a private chats to the public and that shows that you can't be a good counsellor to counsel someone who needs advise from you in PM. And some of this forum members will not have confidence in you with their PMs. You can only publish PMs in an obvious cases but this not one. You make as if they were begging you to hire them. Though everyone sees such from different angles and my point of view on this publication of chats is wrong. This will create fear for some users to pm you because their thoughts now, you will publish their PMs and they might not like that and with that you have loss a confidence from those users. Well the "text is rich" though most of the things have been discussed in various threads. This thread gives strength to the weak ones and also to unskillful writers.  Your examples made the thread longer.

BY the way the thread is educative and informative and it gives inside of one's inability to be hired, so with this text those will be edify to do well. As your said in most time, or time without number, average posters are not qualify for you to be hired and by seeing this they will improve on their writing. And ways which one can be hired in the forum has been discussed in many thread both in the local boards or sections. And it is good for your reminder. Royse777 one thing you have to know is that everyone does not have equal knowledge and that is where the popular phrasal verb comes to play, "knowledge is differ" and that is why one thread can produce different view points. I like your thread but there are somethings you wouldn't mentioned for trust and confidentiality. though those you mentioned might not have anything to do or say about it but others have taken them under cognizant. Thanks for your information.

For a normal user on the forum, it can actually be easy to create some topics and also share their valuable ideas on other topics and earn some merits to rank up, but in order to be of great influence on the forum, it takes more than just randomly earning merits to rank up, and you have actually shared a very great idea on how one can become relevant in the forum or make a living.

I think becoming a campaign manager is good, and I have greatly admired it, but I just think it's not very easy to archive. For someone to archive it and win his or her first project, it's going to take a lot of dedication, and for someone who has an established business outside the forum, it will be difficult for such a person because of the divided attention.

Anyway, I thank you for sharing this idea, Sir Royse777. Growth is continuous, and for one to keep growing, the person has to keep learning and also improving themselves.

You have made a quite impresive points with numerous examples and detail explanation, I applaud you for that. I know making this post took you time to explain and you deserve respect for that. But In all you have said the once I bold above is the one I see as a harsh decision or sees it a wrong way of becoming reputable. I don't think sabotaging people or reporting them is a good way to grow in rank. Because these might creat a wrong impression for the newbies or some people. If there should be need for such it should have been an appointment not for random people.

Many people who rearly make meaningful contribution always feel so Inferior or sees other people that grow so fast as if they do magic. But not knowing it's there effort that made them what they are. People who envy the rapid growth of other members took it upon themselves to monitor a slight mistake of someone and bring the downfall of such person. And they become happy for that. And it will need to people watching each other's mistakes instead of making quality post and meaningful contributions.