How to stick a middle finger at NSA and GCHQ for spying on us? - page 2.

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Quote from: Nik1ab on January 25, 2014, 10:19:49 PM

Quote from: practicaldreamer on January 24, 2014, 04:55:54 PM

But tor is a pain in the backside .... I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

That's the price of privacy. Just do it and stop complaining.

Having googled the problem it appears Youtube has a HTML5 player that you can opt in to and use. I tried it and it works using the Tor browser.
So you don't have to "just do it" - or indeed complain about it anymore Cheesy

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Quote from: jcoin200 on January 26, 2014, 01:55:58 PM

Exactly, the next time someone tells you they have nothing to hide just ask them if they would be comfortable giving their email password out to random strangers. Clearly no-one would want to do that. So even if you have nothing to hide, most everyone still values some level of privacy.

Also the same people should have their web cam or internet camera streaming live on the internet, without any password. So everyone can watch them all the time, such as when they are sleeping, getting dress, shagging, and everything. Tongue

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Exactly, the next time someone tells you they have nothing to hide just ask them if they would be comfortable giving their email password out to random strangers. Clearly no-one would want to do that. So even if you have nothing to hide, most everyone still values some level of privacy.

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Quote from: jcoin200 on January 26, 2014, 07:29:36 AM

I think one of the biggest things is to talk with others about it. The average person is fairly clueless as to how broad and intrusive the NSA spying has become. Most people I've talked to about it just say "oh I have nothing to hide." Neither do I, but I think everyone deserves privacy, and also everyone deserves to have their constitutional rights kept in tact.

I'd also recommend writing a letter (yes a real letter) to your local congressman/woman. Only if the majority of citizens start to stand up to the NSA will things start to change. Obama has not called for an end to anything, only playing word games in his speeches about how the data should be maintained.

I have nothing to hide either. But those people need to understand. If they don't mind others snooping around on their pc or telephone. They can stop using anti-virus, get rid of their firewall. And might as well share their hard disk to the internet, Cheesy

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I think one of the biggest things is to talk with others about it. The average person is fairly clueless as to how broad and intrusive the NSA spying has become. Most people I've talked to about it just say "oh I have nothing to hide." Neither do I, but I think everyone deserves privacy, and also everyone deserves to have their constitutional rights kept in tact.

I'd also recommend writing a letter (yes a real letter) to your local congressman/woman. Only if the majority of citizens start to stand up to the NSA will things start to change. Obama has not called for an end to anything, only playing word games in his speeches about how the data should be maintained.

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Quote from: Kenshin on January 24, 2014, 03:34:18 PM

I have been thinking, I will stop using all US brand of electronic, service and pc. Such as Apple, Cisco, Facebook, Microsoft, and so on.

And start using more Chinese brands such as Lenovo, Huawei, Asus, Acer, and other Japanese and Korean brands.

I will also use more open source softwares, and tor. Also stop using Google and Gmail. And start using more startpage.com and other email providers which are not in the US.

Any other ideas?

1. Move to Siberia
2. Stop using the internet
3. Live off the land

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Quote from: practicaldreamer on January 24, 2014, 04:55:54 PM

Quote from: Kenshin on January 24, 2014, 03:34:18 PM

I will also use more open source softwares, and tor. Also stop using Google and Gmail.

Yes - I've been doing the same. But tor is a pain in the backside when you have to manually enter every bloody password for every site (or am I missing something ?) - also, I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

Re. email. I want to ditch gmail also - went through using Tormail, then it disappeared. What email provider are those in the know using for security/anonymity and reliability ?
When Twister becomes available (at least for idiots like me) I can see me using that. I would use Bitmessage but I don't know anyone else that has a Bitmessage address Undecided

That's the price of privacy. Just do it and stop complaining.

Quote from: Kenshin on January 24, 2014, 03:34:18 PM

I have been thinking, I will stop using all US brand of electronic, service and pc. Such as Apple, Cisco, Facebook, Microsoft, and so on.

And start using more Chinese brands such as Lenovo, Huawei, Asus, Acer, and other Japanese and Korean brands.

I will also use more open source softwares, and tor. Also stop using Google and Gmail. And start using more startpage.com and other email providers which are not in the US.

Any other ideas?

You get this idea now? I stopped buying US products since PRISM came out.

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Quote from: Spendulus on January 25, 2014, 08:54:04 PM

Quote from: Kenshin on January 24, 2014, 03:34:18 PM

I have been thinking, I will stop using all US brand of electronic, service and pc. Such as Apple, Cisco, Facebook, Microsoft, and so on.

And start using more Chinese brands such as Lenovo, Huawei, Asus, Acer, and other Japanese and Korean brands.

I will also use more open source softwares, and tor. Also stop using Google and Gmail. And start using more startpage.com and other email providers which are not in the US.

Any other ideas?

I'd be a bit more concerned about the way that the commercial companies use your data than the governments. Maybe this is a subject for discussion, but my opinion is....

If you secure your data and communications from private companies, you've also done a pretty good job of securing it from government snoops.

I have uninstalled my Ubuntu to Arch Linux now, because of privacy, also I have sign up for VPN paying with bitcoin, also email account hosted and encrypted in Swiss.

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Quote from: Kenshin on January 24, 2014, 03:34:18 PM

I have been thinking, I will stop using all US brand of electronic, service and pc. Such as Apple, Cisco, Facebook, Microsoft, and so on.

And start using more Chinese brands such as Lenovo, Huawei, Asus, Acer, and other Japanese and Korean brands.

I will also use more open source softwares, and tor. Also stop using Google and Gmail. And start using more startpage.com and other email providers which are not in the US.

Any other ideas?

I'd be a bit more concerned about the way that the commercial companies use your data than the governments. Maybe this is a subject for discussion, but my opinion is....

If you secure your data and communications from private companies, you've also done a pretty good job of securing it from government snoops.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on January 24, 2014, 07:03:08 PM

Quote from: Kenshin on January 24, 2014, 06:44:38 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on January 24, 2014, 03:42:35 PM

Fly a plane into the White House?

Now only if we can get the rest of humanity to boycott America we should be alright Grin

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That is a bit extreme, I am not a terrorist. Tongue

No, but the USG is. Fight terror with terror, right?

And I bet I'm on some NSA watchlist now Grin

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You probably is now. Fight terror against terrorist (NSA & GCHQ) is not a bad idea, but I am sure that are other ways. I mean the US government fly the planes into the Twin Tower on 9/11, just so that they can go to war with Iraq.

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Quote from: Kenshin on January 24, 2014, 06:44:38 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on January 24, 2014, 03:42:35 PM

Fly a plane into the White House?

Now only if we can get the rest of humanity to boycott America we should be alright Grin

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That is a bit extreme, I am not a terrorist. Tongue

No, but the USG is. Fight terror with terror, right?

And I bet I'm on some NSA watchlist now Grin

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Quote from: pedrog on January 24, 2014, 04:28:01 PM

Here you go: https://prism-break.org/en/

Quote from: MaxwellsDemon on January 24, 2014, 06:31:35 PM

Throw some fun keywords into your emails:

http://nsa.motherboard.tv

Cool, we should check them out, so we can stick our middle finger to them. Tongue

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Quote from: hilariousandco on January 24, 2014, 03:42:35 PM

Fly a plane into the White House?

Now only if we can get the rest of humanity to boycott America we should be alright Grin

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That is a bit extreme, I am not a terrorist. Tongue

Quote from: railzand on January 24, 2014, 03:45:32 PM

You don't think the Asian powers are spying on you?

That is the point, why will Asian powers spy on me. The information will be useless to them, unless we are anti China, Japan, or who ever.

Also China only give a crap if you say bad things about their government. Which I don't do anyway. I live in the UK, so GCHQ so give a shit about collecting data on me, and they have some use for this.

Quote from: BurtW on January 24, 2014, 03:56:03 PM

Quote from: Kenshin on January 24, 2014, 03:34:18 PM

I will stop using all US brand of electronic, service and pc. Such as Apple, Cisco, ...

So you are boycotting stuff made in China?

Well, Huawei, Sony, Samsung and many other Asian brands are partly made in China anyway. It is not about boycotting China, it is about boycotting US and the UK. During the manufacture process, the NSA and GCHQ will put in some chips which they can snoop on us. Now I know why GCHQ was so scared when British Telecom uses Huawei now, because if it is Cisco, they can snoop on us. Tongue

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Quote from: practicaldreamer on January 24, 2014, 04:55:54 PM

Quote from: Kenshin on January 24, 2014, 03:34:18 PM

I will also use more open source softwares, and tor. Also stop using Google and Gmail.

Yes - I've been doing the same. But tor is a pain in the backside when you have to manually enter every bloody password for every site (or am I missing something ?) - also, I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

Re. email. I want to ditch gmail also - went through using Tormail, then it disappeared. What email provider are those in the know using for security/anonymity and reliability ?
When Twister becomes available (at least for idiots like me) I can see me using that. I would use Bitmessage but I don't know anyone else that has a Bitmessage address Undecided

mykolab.com is good, they also accept bitcoin.

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Throw some fun keywords into your emails:

http://nsa.motherboard.tv

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Quote from: Kenshin on January 24, 2014, 03:34:18 PM

I will also use more open source softwares, and tor. Also stop using Google and Gmail.

Yes - I've been doing the same. But tor is a pain in the backside when you have to manually enter every bloody password for every site (or am I missing something ?) - also, I can't play Youtube videos over it (any (safe) solution to that ?)

Re. email. I want to ditch gmail also - went through using Tormail, then it disappeared. What email provider are those in the know using for security/anonymity and reliability ?
When Twister becomes available (at least for idiots like me) I can see me using that. I would use Bitmessage but I don't know anyone else that has a Bitmessage address Undecided

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Quote from: Lethn on January 24, 2014, 04:36:57 PM

I remember people chatting on this forum about this awhile back and people concluded that the best way would be to send lots and lots of useless encrypted data back and forth on the internet just to fuck with them, because then they'd spend all that time trying to crack is and find a silly .jpeg or something in it instead.

To do that though you would need to be good at programming and skilled at encryption.

You already do this every time you use SSL at some silly web site, like this one for example.

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I remember people chatting on this forum about this awhile back and people concluded that the best way would be to send lots and lots of useless encrypted data back and forth on the internet just to fuck with them, because then they'd spend all that time trying to crack is and find a silly .jpeg or something in it instead.

To do that though you would need to be good at programming and skilled at encryption.

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Here you go: https://prism-break.org/en/

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