How to verify a person's DOB without private information

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Quote from: Elwar on July 25, 2012, 08:37:10 AM

Youtube video of you holding up or saying your BTC and telling your birth date.

This would not be proof enough to be exact but it could differentiate a 16 year old from a 50 year old.

The whole idea was to verify my birth DAY not how old I was per say.

Still no birthday donations Sad

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Youtube video of you holding up or saying your BTC and telling your birth date.

This would not be proof enough to be exact but it could differentiate a 16 year old from a 50 year old.

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This thread is getting weirder and WEIRDER! LOL

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on July 25, 2012, 01:35:19 AM

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Your dental x-rays show your age. So email that with a close-up color photo of one unique tooth matching the record with your nick written on it by one of those street vendors that writes names on a grain of rice. They can verify your age with their dentist at their next checkup.

Oh, and a picture of your genitalia with your name written on it by one of those street vendors that writes names on a grain of rice as a second form of ID.

Ill show my dick next time I go to buy beer lol.

I did that at 7-11 and the bitch gave me a free 12 pack and a BJ.

I once paid 12 bucks for a slurpee behind a 7-11, and the crack whore never once asked me my name. Go figure!

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Your dental x-rays show your age. So email that with a close-up color photo of one unique tooth matching the record with your nick written on it by one of those street vendors that writes names on a grain of rice. They can verify your age with their dentist at their next checkup.

Oh, and a picture of your genitalia with your name written on it by one of those street vendors that writes names on a grain of rice as a second form of ID.

Ill show my dick next time I go to buy beer lol.

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Quote from: niko on July 25, 2012, 12:49:39 AM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on July 24, 2012, 10:59:11 PM

One way I thought of is if you had a couple (one may not cut it) social network accounts like Twitter, MySpace, FacePalm (couldn't resist), etc., showing posts by you and others that on a certain day, birthday wishes were exchanged. The longer the time frame, and the more networks you've belonged to, the better. It's not 100% foolproof, but the fact that it'll be consistent will go a long way.

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Target fixation, Bruno! The check was supposed to be done "without revealing private information".

F ME! I read the entire OP, and that fact/requirement eluded me when I thought my post up. Can I get a do-over?

~Bruno~

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on July 24, 2012, 10:59:11 PM

One way I thought of is if you had a couple (one may not cut it) social network accounts like Twitter, MySpace, FacePalm (couldn't resist), etc., showing posts by you and others that on a certain day, birthday wishes were exchanged. The longer the time frame, and the more networks you've belonged to, the better. It's not 100% foolproof, but the fact that it'll be consistent will go a long way.

~Bruno~

Target fixation, Bruno! The check was supposed to be done "without revealing private information".

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One way I thought of is if you had a couple (one may not cut it) social network accounts like Twitter, MySpace, FacePalm (couldn't resist), etc., showing posts by you and others that on a certain day, birthday wishes were exchanged. The longer the time frame, and the more networks you've belonged to, the better. It's not 100% foolproof, but the fact that it'll be consistent will go a long way.

~Bruno~

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Quote from: unclemantis on July 24, 2012, 04:49:49 AM

We need to take the HUMAN out of the equation.

You really don't want to do this. It's fine to have a system doing preliminary flagging, but you really need humans reviewing what the system outputs. I once worked as a credit analyst for a major revolving credit provider. On my floor alone, we had 200 credit analysts reviewing accounts which had been frozen by the system (there were other sections of a similar size doing the same thing). Every single day, we reviewed about 16,000 frozen accounts. Large as my organisation was, had those flagged accounts not been reviewed by humans we would have run out of customers very quickly if the system had the final say.

It doesn't matter what algorithm you design, it's always going to be flawed in some respect and either flag people as untrustworthy who aren't or "approve" people as trustworthy who don't deserve it. Many of you have probably experienced the consequences of computer algorithms making decisions about your trustworthiness when dealing with your credit card companies and having your lines of credit cut on the basis of predictive analytics.

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Quote from: deepceleron on July 24, 2012, 11:01:47 AM

See how long it takes for them to answer what they were doing during:
Colorado movie shooting vs.
9/11 vs.
Challenger Accident vs.
Nixon Resignation vs.
Moon Landing vs.
JFK Assassination vs.
VJ-Day vs.
Pearl Harbor vs...

deepceleron - Great idea. You should post that in a new thread in off topic.

"What were you doing when..."

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Quote from: niko on July 24, 2012, 11:42:45 AM

Quote from: deepceleron on July 24, 2012, 11:01:47 AM

See how long it takes for them to answer what they were doing during:
Colorado movie shooting vs.
9/11 vs.
Challenger Accident vs.
Nixon Resignation vs.
Moon Landing vs.
JFK Assassination vs.
VJ-Day vs.
Pearl Harbor vs...

Nice job. Now it's never going to work.

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Quote from: deepceleron on July 24, 2012, 11:01:47 AM

See how long it takes for them to answer what they were doing during:
Colorado movie shooting vs.
9/11 vs.
Challenger Accident vs.
Nixon Resignation vs.
Moon Landing vs.
JFK Assassination vs.
VJ-Day vs.
Pearl Harbor vs...

Nice job. Now it's never going to work.

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See how long it takes for them to answer what they were doing during:
Colorado movie shooting vs.
9/11 vs.
Challenger Accident vs.
Nixon Resignation vs.
Moon Landing vs.
JFK Assassination vs.
VJ-Day vs.
Pearl Harbor vs...

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Quote from: niko on July 24, 2012, 09:55:48 AM

Quote from: unclemantis on July 24, 2012, 06:29:27 AM

Quote from: Coinoisseur on July 24, 2012, 04:52:42 AM

Well the only way I can think of to confirm age within the context of bitcoin would be to create a bitcoin address for someone at birth and use that address to "prove" their age. But with anonymity how do you know they just didn't buy an X year old address plus it can only track age from when the system is implemented.

Maybe the whole idea of age verification for anonymous violates the rules of anonymity.

Sigh...

My birthday was last Wednesday people! Hook an aging brotha up! LOL

I may be missing something, but to verify the age of X, X needs to be specified. Therefore, it is not anonymous.

I agree. Perhaps maybe just a birth month and day and not the actual YEAR of birth, so that people can be rewarded for their birthday. That would be cool.

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Quote from: unclemantis on July 24, 2012, 06:29:27 AM

Quote from: Coinoisseur on July 24, 2012, 04:52:42 AM

Well the only way I can think of to confirm age within the context of bitcoin would be to create a bitcoin address for someone at birth and use that address to "prove" their age. But with anonymity how do you know they just didn't buy an X year old address plus it can only track age from when the system is implemented.

Maybe the whole idea of age verification for anonymous violates the rules of anonymity.

Sigh...

My birthday was last Wednesday people! Hook an aging brotha up! LOL

I may be missing something, but to verify the age of X, X needs to be specified. Therefore, it is not anonymous.

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Quote from: Coinoisseur on July 24, 2012, 04:52:42 AM

Well the only way I can think of to confirm age within the context of bitcoin would be to create a bitcoin address for someone at birth and use that address to "prove" their age. But with anonymity how do you know they just didn't buy an X year old address plus it can only track age from when the system is implemented.

Maybe the whole idea of age verification for anonymous violates the rules of anonymity.

Sigh...

My birthday was last Wednesday people! Hook an aging brotha up! LOL

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Well the only way I can think of to confirm age within the context of bitcoin would be to create a bitcoin address for someone at birth and use that address to "prove" their age. But with anonymity how do you know they just didn't buy an X year old address plus it can only track age from when the system is implemented.

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Quote from: Coinoisseur on July 24, 2012, 04:24:18 AM

Degrees of trust. The amount of trust a random internet comment/user garners is really low. Heck, not everyone trusts government verification of various things but it's trusted by more people and to a greater degree than a random statement. Which is why security clearance stuff does a lot of multiple verification methods. Let me know if you figure out how to engender trust while remaining anonymous, seems like a difficult challenge.

It IS a difficult challenge and it is something that MUST be addressed.

How do I know Bitcoin holds value? Because everyone that uses it agrees to it.

How do I know this person is not going to rip me off? "Trust me". But the whole idea of bitcoin is TRUST NO ONE.

So this must be done by computational means and not rely on any humans verifiying the information. The users of bitcoins should be treated the same way as bitcoin transactions are. Bitcoins are verified by a miner. What are bitcoin users verified by? Other users. This will not do. We need to take the HUMAN out of the equation.

If you want to break it down. I guess a Human could ask GOD if this other human is trustworthy. God created man just like the miner created the bitcoin. Well the miner really did not create the bitcoin, the bitcoin is rewarded to the miner by the network. I am really not entirely sure how a bitcoin is born but I get a general idea.

Thoughts folks? This is really an open question since I have no idea what direction to go.

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Degrees of trust. The amount of trust a random internet comment/user garners is really low. Heck, not everyone trusts government verification of various things but it's trusted by more people and to a greater degree than a random statement. Which is why security clearance stuff does a lot of multiple verification methods. Let me know if you figure out how to engender trust while remaining anonymous, seems like a difficult challenge.

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