How usable is CLN currently (vs LND)? - page 2.

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Quote from: Jodmapht on December 14, 2022, 08:07:05 AM

Quote from: HeRetiK on December 14, 2022, 06:51:10 AM

I've been running a minor CLN node for a while and it definitely feels like the grass is greener on the LND side of things. At least without digging really deep into the guts of it.

The rebalancing I've been doing via commandline, though there might be a simpler way by now. Haven't followed the progress that closely lately.

Thanks. When you say you have been rebalancing via commandline, how do you do that? For now I expect to mostly only receive LN payments and not have to send any myself, so I would be overall using it in a very unbalanced way...

Edit: Based on what I read from the links posted by DaveF, that would be PeerSwap, correct? Thanks!

Actually I've been using the rebalance plugin, rebalancing individual channels manually:
https://github.com/lightningd/plugins/tree/master/rebalance

Running a larger node with good liquidity will definitely require some automation though and the LND ecosystem seems to have a lower learning curve in that regard.

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Quote from: DaveF on December 14, 2022, 06:57:45 AM

Take a look at: https://www.lightningnode.info/comparison
And at https://www.reddit.com/r/lightningnetwork/comments/u2zknw/clightning_vs_lnd/
There are also a few other discussions in general on the r/lightningnetwork subreddit about this topic.
Deep in the lightning discussion posts here there are also some comparisons.

With that being said, I have found clightning development a lot slower then LND but it is happening and things are being added. Just not as fast as LND
This probably has a bit to do with for a few years LND was the only option for the prebuilt node images, so you tended to see more work going towards that.

-Dave

Thanks for these links, they were very useful! They make me want to keep trying to stick with CLN. I did not know about Boltz.exchange. And also PeerSwap,

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Quote from: HeRetiK on December 14, 2022, 06:51:10 AM

I've been running a minor CLN node for a while and it definitely feels like the grass is greener on the LND side of things. At least without digging really deep into the guts of it.

The rebalancing I've been doing via commandline, though there might be a simpler way by now. Haven't followed the progress that closely lately.

Thanks. When you say you have been rebalancing via commandline, how do you do that? For now I expect to mostly only receive LN payments and not have to send any myself, so I would be overall using it in a very unbalanced way...

Edit: Based on what I read from the links posted by DaveF, that would be PeerSwap, correct? Thanks!

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Take a look at: https://www.lightningnode.info/comparison
And at https://www.reddit.com/r/lightningnetwork/comments/u2zknw/clightning_vs_lnd/
There are also a few other discussions in general on the r/lightningnetwork subreddit about this topic.
Deep in the lightning discussion posts here there are also some comparisons.

With that being said, I have found clightning development a lot slower then LND but it is happening and things are being added. Just not as fast as LND
This probably has a bit to do with for a few years LND was the only option for the prebuilt node images, so you tended to see more work going towards that.

-Dave

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I've been running a minor CLN node for a while and it definitely feels like the grass is greener on the LND side of things. At least without digging really deep into the guts of it.

The rebalancing I've been doing via commandline, though there might be a simpler way by now. Haven't followed the progress that closely lately.

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Hi,

I have installed CLN on my (RPI) node as it seemed to have a better performance and to have some neat features vs LND, but I seem to be constantly hitting road blocks with it, starting with being only limited to Zeus and the defunct Zap as mobile wallets. RTL works well with it, but there is no support for ThunderHub, which seems to be better, and no access to Loop. My understanding of the issue is that CLN and LND are only compatible on the Lightning side and do not share a common RPC API for the client side, and many projects and services are developed by the LND team. So without Loop, how do users of CLN rebalance channels? I will be mostly receiving sats with my LN node... I am trying to see if I should keep trying to stick with CLN or give up and switch to LND before I start putting this into "production".

Thanks!

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