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Topic: how will mere mortals get there hands on nvidia P104-100 or P106-100? - page 2. (Read 8966 times)

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Hi All Just came across a large amount of P104-100 9GPU miners through my manufacturing network-please pm if interested. 

Do you have any performance proof? If it's the case, please show us here before we could have a deal. I expect that P104-100 could achieve ~30 Mh/s.
I heard that P104-100 will be released this month, and I'm waiting for it because it's hard to purchase more P106-100 now.
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Hi All Just came across a large amount of P104-100 9GPU miners through my manufacturing network-please pm if interested. 
kjs
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is it even possible to get the P106-100 now?  cant seem to find anymore
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Any further news on the P104-100?

I'm actually waiting for this P104 since June. Still no idea where will it be available...
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The reason we don't see many of these cards if they have been bulk sales to large facilities up until this point.

The only advantage of these cards over the standard ones is the ability to modify the bios of these gpus if you have the software from nvidia to do it, but they don't just hand it out.
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kjs
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Any further news on the P104-100?
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They are out. Palit, colorful and MSI have cards out.
But the test seems to be just normal 1060's. No faster hashing at all.

I hope new tests will arrive soon and also we see the p104-100 cards.

Aussie retailers are selling bulk packs of 20 for $349USD per unit.

https://www.scorptec.com.au/bundle/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA/134-20x-ZT-M10600A-10B

Pretty bad deal IMO.
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The current mining card specs for the general public P106-100 are just 1060 stripped down with no video ports, 6 gb of ram and 90 day warranty.  Nvidia is trying to push miners to these cards and are trying to limit selling to the mining community their standard gaming cards.

Other cards are in the works, don't expect the 1080 version to hit the United States any time in the near future. 
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They are out. Palit, colorful and MSI have cards out.
But the test seems to be just normal 1060's. No faster hashing at all.

I hope new tests will arrive soon and also we see the p104-100 cards.
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Re: how will mere mortals get there hands on nvidia P104-100 or P106-100?

Just buy a regular 1060 with a three year warranty. LOL!

24 MH/s ETH & 300 H/s ZEC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9deSVpjm1Kk
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Don't know, but yes in his offer it says that it is 3 months warranty, I don't know how is that possible, because in my country it is 2 years warranty by the law.

do not mix Warranty with Gewährleistung. only bacause its the same word in english. those r 2 different things. and Gewährleistung is only for consumer market, but not for B2B
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Don't know, but yes in his offer it says that it is 3 months warranty, I don't know how is that possible, because in my country it is 2 years warranty by the law.
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Why are we even discussing this? 3 month warranty is a joke, especially for mining purposes. If ~70% of gaming cards (my personal experience, adequate cooling and maintenance) can survive 3 years, then anything less than 2 years for "mining optimized" card seems like trickery.
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The P104-100 per all of the data I have been able to gather

 (3) should have 20-30% lower power usage at the same clocks vs the GTX 1080 consumer cards, due to no video circuitry and disabling the "video-specific" parts of the GPU.


3. Doesn'twork like that, the part you don't use don't use much energy to begin with, so you won't gain as much just by disabling them.


 TheStilt in his celebrated BIOS mods for the R9 290 achieved ballpark 15% savings on his NOT UNDERVOLTED version of the BIOS (personal testing on my own cards when I was first checking those out) - and he didn't disable ALL of the video out capabilities on the GPU, just most of them.
 I doubt a factory mod that disables ALL such circuitry would achieve less, and should achieve a bit more.

 I do concede that it's an estimate, and I wouldn't be shocked at more like 10% given upgrades in tech since then, but at least one source was QUOTING "10-30%" for that figure on the P106-100.



 Given GTX 1060 pricing is now climbing, $270 right now wouldn't be a bad price for the P106-100 - significantly less than the consumer 6GB versions in almost all cases right now - even if it IS quite a bit higher than reported "MSRP" was supposed to be per all of the rumors of pricing.

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My supplier is offering me Palit GeForce GT P106-100 6144M GDDR5 192bit X (M/C:4000/1506) for price around 250e. You say it is not worth that money? Is there any benchmark of this card compered to 1060 or 1070?

 As the cards don't apparently actually exist yet, or are JUST (maybe) starting to show up, benchmarks don't exist for them yet.

 I don't know EU to USD conversion rate, dunno if that would be a reasonable price or not.


Lets say I can get them maybe for 270$, and my supplier is a big company, not some shady guy. Because I want to buy 18 1070 cards, but they are 480$. So I would like to know is the risk of not selling them for gaming worth 800+$ per rig.

Who's your supplier?

It is main distributor for Gainward and Palit nVidia to my country. But I will ask him about that cards.
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The P104-100 per all of the data I have been able to gather

 (1) probably will have some BIOS tweeks to enhance mining performance - but DON'T expect 60 Mh/s, I'd guess 40 at BEST and more likely 30-35 on ETH
 (2) should be a BEAST on ZEC - though not quite up to the GTX 1080ti.
 (3) should have 20-30% lower power usage at the same clocks vs the GTX 1080 consumer cards, due to no video circuitry and disabling the "video-specific" parts of the GPU.
 (4) might have a MSRP of $350 - it definitely needs to be lower than the consumer cards to generate significant interest, given the short warranty and much lower resale value
 (5) no release date has even been interested.
1. Let's assume it's true, so a little gain, probably adjustment in memory timings.
2. Probably the same as optimized 1080.
3. Doesn'twork like that, the part you don't use don't use much energy to begin with, so you won't gain as much just by disabling them.
4. Agreed, although my best guess it would cost the same as lower end 1080.
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