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sr. member
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January 15, 2023, 04:14:02 PM
#88
It is wrong because you are not being honest. It can also screw you at the end in case the casino unexpectedly requires you to complete a KYC but you can prefer to not comply with it and choose to abandon the money in your account.

I think no money can be able to level with our personal information or privacy. Once someone get your data, it will now be impossible to removed it from them but money can always be found again, so my advice is just gamble on those casinos that don't require a KYC or better gamble on the web3/decentralized casinos as they don't require any signup. All you need to do with them is to connect your crypto wallet and you are good to go.
legendary
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January 15, 2023, 01:13:04 PM
#87
You can falsify your details if you are registering on those platforms that are not too serious, but not on casinos or platforms where you are putting your money, kindly know that the risk atarched can put your money at stake.

even though these small casinos and to a certain extent are casinos with high indications of being scam casinos, but that does not give people the right to deliver false documents, because the scammers can still report to the police all people who deliver false documents and if that person who delivered false documents you are very unlucky you can still see the police arrest you, it may be the case that the police take the complaint very seriously and investigate the person who gave false documents and arrest that person. I hope no one goes down this criminal path of giving false documents
legendary
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January 15, 2023, 12:22:27 PM
#86
You are already risking your funds in gambling so it will be riskier if you will submit fake information. If ever you'll encounter a problem with the casino in the future, there's a huge possibility that you could lose all your funds in one click because of breaking their TOS. We all want anonymity but since we also want security, it will be better to comply with their security requirements than to regret things in the end.

People who prefer to remain in the shadows have to risk money for the sake of their privacy. I understand them because they were simply not given an alternative option.

I'm sure there are options for creating an alternative casino data transfer tool without revealing the identity of the user, but no one wants to spend money on that. And as long as it's true there will be a lot of users who register not their personal data.
hero member
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January 15, 2023, 11:28:18 AM
#85
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?
That's risky providing the wrong information you know that you can get yourself banned and they can confiscate your winning, we all want anonymity but until there's no solution in an industry that is highly regulated, we have no choice but to abide by their rules or so not play at all.
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Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their way around this. Share ideas if you can.
Right now there's no solution we all wish there is so we can safeguard our anonymity, the other option is on chain but you can only deposit with a native token of that platform, but we never know in the future something innovative will come out that can be beneficial to both the gamblers and the gambling operator.
sr. member
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January 15, 2023, 11:20:25 AM
#84
...how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?
Locked or seized funds for failed KYC in case you're suspected of any wrong doing or you win big.

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Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC?
Yes. The reason is as stated above.

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Or any of you have a better solution?
Let me reiterate what other have said that not playing in any KYC casino is the best solution.

I only submit fake information using throwaway accounts when I'm testing or checking out the features of a platform. I create a second one with real info because that I'm actually going to use it.

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There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this.
Keep in mind that the people behind those casinos with KYC could be watching or reading this thread hehe.
legendary
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January 15, 2023, 11:19:33 AM
#83
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

You need to judge each site individually rather than going with a blanket rule. There are lots of big sites out there which will be geared up to accept and maybe even use very secure third party services for this sort of verification & document storage. If you stick with all the biggest casinos and sportbooks advertising here then you are fairly safe, as long as you understand that KYC may later expose you if your government is able to pressure the gambling site for whatever reason to release such information. I would definitely not hand over documents to smaller sites or any that give even a little bit of a bad vibe off because it can come back against you in so many bad ways.
hero member
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January 15, 2023, 11:06:14 AM
#82
OP, in some cases I equally give out the wrong details about myself when dealing with some online platform. But I don't do such when dealing with a platform where I am putting my money, and that is because I tend to avoid anything that will cause me to not be able to withdraw my money or have to undergo the KYC procedures that I earlier avoided. 

It's also wise to know the terms and policies of the casino you use because if you give out the wrong details and perhaps encounter an issue that requires those details to be verified, it may cause a delay in whatever you want to do at that moment. 

You can falsify your details if you are registering on those platforms that are not too serious, but not on casinos or platforms where you are putting your money, kindly know that the risk atarched can put your money at stake.
full member
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January 15, 2023, 10:18:40 AM
#81
You are already risking your funds in gambling so it will be riskier if you will submit fake information. If ever you'll encounter a problem with the casino in the future, there's a huge possibility that you could lose all your funds in one click because of breaking their TOS. We all want anonymity but since we also want security, it will be better to comply with their security requirements than to regret things in the end.
legendary
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January 15, 2023, 10:13:19 AM
#80
In its beginnings, crypto casinos had anonymity as part of their marketing and it is an idea that is still in the air.

Then or consequently many unsuspecting users fall into the ToS that today you must read, there is your answer.

That is, it's about legal conditions of use established by mutual agreement between the parties, users and Casino.  So when you register you accept them.

Do your research, there are Crypto casinos that can still afford to shape KYC to suit different types of users in their gaming habits Gambling, so don't risk bypassing a KYC or trying to play in an unreliable casino or club.

You can start losing money in a fair casino without placing a bet, when you do not in the correct casino.
legendary
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January 15, 2023, 09:30:15 AM
#79
Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
Maybe for me it doesn't matter the KYC system implemented by online casino sites in general, if the users themselves don't violate the policies implemented as listed below.

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Many countries that prohibit online gambling rely on gambling sites and casinos to screen their citizens using IP addresses and prevent them from playing. Here's why using a VPN for online gambling is so common: VPN changes your IP address, so you can spoof your location.

However there is no guarantee that the VPN will work. In some countries like UK, the best and well-known betting sites use KYC (Know Your Customer) identity checks to verify your signup information. If you don't have any digital footprint in the country whose IP address you spoofed, you may not even be able to create an account.

Additionally, even if you manage to create an account on a site that has been banned on your country's IP address, you may still face other challenges when it comes time to withdraw money. Many sites will ask for proof of identity and address before paying their users' winning bets.

In essence, it is quite difficult to effectively surpass these limitations of online gambling. However, this has not stopped people from trying. Some users have found that using a VPN helps them in gaining access to certain sites for gambling.

The quote above has answered all your complaints about the KYC system, nothing is wrong, I think it's good if you visit a certain online casino it doesn't pass KYC, maybe if it passes, other obstacles like the one in the quote above, might be even more difficult when you make a withdrawal and win big.
hero member
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January 15, 2023, 08:56:42 AM
#78
A gambler wants to conduct gambling activities independently. In this regard, KYC in gambling can be complicated for the gamblers which acts as a barrier to their freedom. So gamblers are try  to choose a platforms where there is no such complications. It is one's personal matter I think. There are still many sites that are very strict with rules and regulations. So not all casinos are the same. Nowadays with the increase of gambling sites there are many platforms apart from KYC where a lot of gambling activities are conducted without KYC.

Yes indeed, there are some who doesn't implemented it since they knew that once they do that some gamblers will stay away from them and look for other casinos that doesn't require it too much or some casinos that has only limitations that once they reach that they will need to pass for KYC. And as far as I remembered OP said that maybe he can use fake info, which is too bad idea I think? it will be a problem.
hero member
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January 15, 2023, 08:09:28 AM
#77
You just have two options, either to comply or to find another casino that doesn't enforce KYC until they have to. Most casinos today will have you required to comply with it.
But as long as you're not the big type of gambler and you've got a consistent yet low cash flow on your account then they're most unlikely to require you with KYC. As much as they don't want to get onto kyc for their customers, they also have no option but to do it to follow the regulatory rules that's been placed on them.
The gambling platforms that I am interested in have KYC requirement, do you have any in mind that do not require for KYC? A friend won some money on a gambling platform and he was forced to pass KYC verification before they allow him to withdraw half of the money and the rest was never paid.
Duelbits has asked some players for KYC and some also that did not. It's based on what they look into your account and activity and that decision could also be the same as other casinos based on what they look into your account.
If your friend has already complied with the KYC and was paid half, what does that casino ask for so that he can receive the remaining half of his winning money? Can you name what's that casino that has still half of the money of your friend from his win?
legendary
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January 15, 2023, 06:19:44 AM
#76
I wouldn't intentionally enter false data to gambling platform which is well regulated. I understand people's concerns about leaking private data which can be very problematic. (I remember not gambling site but delivery service leaking data here - many famous people s address information were used for bad intentions). But you are playing with your money in that gambling site so you shouldn't have issues withdrawing.
There are gambling sites that only needs e-mail for sign up and you can play for the minimum. You are limited though in both deposit and withdrawal monthly or annual basis so it will not be that much fun if ever you are a gambler who goes beyond the minimum.
It's not wrong, privacy is a good thing but if you are using services like gambling platform, exchange, banks, and other industry that has something to do about spending or receiving money, your name and address will be required.
I think those sites may be beneficial yeah so I agree.
hero member
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January 15, 2023, 06:13:47 AM
#75
A gambler wants to conduct gambling activities independently. In this regard, KYC in gambling can be complicated for the gamblers which acts as a barrier to their freedom. So gamblers are try  to choose a platforms where there is no such complications. It is one's personal matter I think. There are still many sites that are very strict with rules and regulations. So not all casinos are the same. Nowadays with the increase of gambling sites there are many platforms apart from KYC where a lot of gambling activities are conducted without KYC.
hero member
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January 15, 2023, 03:52:55 AM
#74
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

How bad can this get? Well, it isn't bad for your personal info, but you might lose your money in that particular online casino.
I also have submitting real personal info, because I think that most gambling websites aren't very good at protecting sensitive information.
Losing a small amount of money seems a little bit better than having your personal info being leaked and shared for free around the darkweb.
But yes, sharing real fake personal info is a wrong approach and you might not be able to withdraw your profits, when the casino asks for ID verification.
hero member
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January 15, 2023, 03:30:16 AM
#73
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
If you're not comfortable playing in a specific casino because of their kyc requirement, you better not create an account with them instead of giving a wrong details. Because you'll be in trouble if they ask you to provide a supporting documents (ids, selfie etc.) to confirm your identity. This will likely to happen in a regulated casino if you win a significant amount and requesting to withdraw.

It's understandable to have worries if we provide our informations because of the possible data breach. However, there are casinos where you can play without giving your personal details if you're just an average gambler. That's why we have an option and we're not coerce to play in a specific casino if we don't want to.
As gamblers, we are free to choose a casino to play gambling, and if the casino we find asks for KYC, we don't need to choose the casino and look for another casino that doesn't ask us to do KYC. And casinos that don't ask their users to do KYC will still be around or they'll set rules for when gamblers have to do KYC.

So we don't need to worry about the casino because we can find other casinos. Moreover, we are in this forum which gives many casinos we can use to play gambling.
sr. member
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January 15, 2023, 03:18:49 AM
#72
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
You just have two options, either to comply or to find another casino that doesn't enforce KYC until they have to. Most casinos today will have you required to comply with it.
But as long as you're not the big type of gambler and you've got a consistent yet low cash flow on your account then they're most unlikely to require you with KYC. As much as they don't want to get onto kyc for their customers, they also have no option but to do it to follow the regulatory rules that's been placed on them.
The gambling platforms that I am interested in have KYC requirement, do you have any in mind that do not require for KYC? A friend won some money on a gambling platform and he was forced to pass KYC verification before they allow him to withdraw half of the money and the rest was never paid.
hero member
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January 15, 2023, 02:18:32 AM
#71
There are gambling sites that only needs e-mail for sign up and you can play for the minimum. You are limited though in both deposit and withdrawal monthly or annual basis so it will not be that much fun if ever you are a gambler who goes beyond the minimum.
It's not wrong, privacy is a good thing but if you are using services like gambling platform, exchange, banks, and other industry that has something to do about spending or receiving money, your name and address will be required.
hero member
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January 15, 2023, 01:37:51 AM
#70
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
If you're not comfortable playing in a specific casino because of their kyc requirement, you better not create an account with them instead of giving a wrong details. Because you'll be in trouble if they ask you to provide a supporting documents (ids, selfie etc.) to confirm your identity. This will likely to happen in a regulated casino if you win a significant amount and requesting to withdraw.

It's understandable to have worries if we provide our informations because of the possible data breach. However, there are casinos where you can play without giving your personal details if you're just an average gambler. That's why we have an option and we're not coerce to play in a specific casino if we don't want to.
hero member
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January 15, 2023, 01:21:52 AM
#69
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

How can you give wrong data about yourself when doing KYC at any casino ? They will ask you to upload your ID card which contains every true detail about yourself including your real name and address. The casino will reject your KYC as the data you provided and the data available on your identity card is different.

Try to fool the casino is not possible and even if you succeeded in doing so, your funds are always at risk, if anytime they find out that your documents were fake, they can block your account.
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