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Topic: How you guys are mentioning earning from bitcoin in ITR filing ? - page 2. (Read 5037 times)

newbie
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Tell your tax guy you traded in an asset called Bitcoin, and that you need to show your profits as Capital Gains. Then give him your transaction history, including all Sells you did in the last financial year. If he still does not get it, tell him to think of it as a new stock scrip called BTCX and to use your txn history for comptutation. If he still does not get it, run from that guy.
I think, by trade, it means buying & selling. But, I never buy. I earn and sell. So, I guess, capital gain does not apply to me. Everything that I have sold needs to be shown as earning. By transaction history, do you mean the blockchain Tx details ? That is Hebrew to him. I like your idea of showing it as an asset. I am planning to show it to him as 'Earning from Digital Asset Sales' and provide bank transaction details against those sales.

From the research paper by Nishith Desai there is some basis for considering Bitcoin profits as capital gains. That much is the easy part.  When you obtained the asset (earned / bought / mined / begged / borrowed / stole) there is a "cost of acquisition" in INR. When you sell there is a "Sale Price". The difference is your profit (Capital Gains) and taxed. That's the simplest principle. By 'Transaction History' I mean list down all the Bitcoin you sold in the last financial year. Then tell list down how you obtained those bitcoin, along with acquisition costs. Then you find the difference.

If you have mining "income" things get far more interesting, and you just need to apply some common sense in terms of what you can justify to the IT department if you are called for audit. For mining, cost of server and electricity may be considered as cost of acquisition - but god knows what the IT department will think of it... That is beyond the scope of this discussion as there are no precedents or authoritative rules on this. Safe to say this is a gray area and you are really on your own.

Disclaimer: I am not a qualified tax consultant.
legendary
Activity: 1662
Merit: 1050
Tell your tax guy you traded in an asset called Bitcoin, and that you need to show your profits as Capital Gains. Then give him your transaction history, including all Sells you did in the last financial year. If he still does not get it, tell him to think of it as a new stock scrip called BTCX and to use your txn history for comptutation. If he still does not get it, run from that guy.
I think, by trade, it means buying & selling. But, I never buy. I earn and sell. So, I guess, capital gain does not apply to me. Everything that I have sold needs to be shown as earning. By transaction history, do you mean the blockchain Tx details ? That is Hebrew to him. I like your idea of showing it as an asset. I am planning to show it to him as 'Earning from Digital Asset Sales' and provide bank transaction details against those sales.

If you have used only Coinsecure, you can use my tool CoinsecureCG (http://coinsecurecg.appspot.com) to compute your Capital Gains. You can print out the CG computation page and give it to your tax guy.
I dont touch centralized exchanges. Sorry. LBC & 100bit.co.in are my preferred one.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
No. I have never filed IT return myself. My tax guy does it. But he does not understand bitcoin et all. So, I need to explain this earning source to him. No idea how he'll put it into the ITR though.

Tell your tax guy you traded in an asset called Bitcoin, and that you need to show your profits as Capital Gains. Then give him your transaction history, including all Sells you did in the last financial year. If he still does not get it, tell him to think of it as a new stock scrip called BTCX and to use your txn history for comptutation. If he still does not get it, run from that guy.

If you have used only Coinsecure, you can use my tool CoinsecureCG (http://coinsecurecg.appspot.com) to compute your Capital Gains. You can print out the CG computation page and give it to your tax guy.
legendary
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Merit: 1222
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Like 'Bitcoin Profit', 'Earning from Digital Credit', 'CryptoCurrency Sales'... what ? Please note that, I am not asking about how to calculate it. I want to know, how to mention the earning incurred from selling bitcoin, that was earned through signature campaign ? Smiley

Signature campaign and other 'earnings' - Income from other sources
Profit on buying & selling bitcoins - Short term/Long term capital gains.

How are we to show the Long term Capital Gains ?
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000
Like 'Bitcoin Profit', 'Earning from Digital Credit', 'CryptoCurrency Sales'... what ? Please note that, I am not asking about how to calculate it. I want to know, how to mention the earning incurred from selling bitcoin, that was earned through signature campaign ? Smiley

Signature campaign and other 'earnings' - Income from other sources
Profit on buying & selling bitcoins - Short term/Long term capital gains.
legendary
Activity: 1662
Merit: 1050
Like 'Bitcoin Profit', 'Earning from Digital Credit', 'CryptoCurrency Sales'... what ? Please note that, I am not asking about how to calculate it. I want to know, how to mention the earning incurred from selling bitcoin, that was earned through signature campaign ? Smiley

Have you filed any IT Returns ever? Which form has a place to write random notes like that?

No. I have never filed IT return myself. My tax guy does it. But he does not understand bitcoin et all. So, I need to explain this earning source to him. No idea how he'll put it into the ITR though.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Like 'Bitcoin Profit', 'Earning from Digital Credit', 'CryptoCurrency Sales'... what ? Please note that, I am not asking about how to calculate it. I want to know, how to mention the earning incurred from selling bitcoin, that was earned through signature campaign ? Smiley

Have you filed any IT Returns ever? Which form has a place to write random notes like that?
legendary
Activity: 1258
Merit: 1001
Like 'Bitcoin Profit', 'Earning from Digital Credit', 'CryptoCurrency Sales'... what ? Please note that, I am not asking about how to calculate it. I want to know, how to mention the earning incurred from selling bitcoin, that was earned through signature campaign ? Smiley


Income from other sources

legendary
Activity: 1662
Merit: 1050
Like 'Bitcoin Profit', 'Earning from Digital Credit', 'CryptoCurrency Sales'... what ? Please note that, I am not asking about how to calculate it. I want to know, how to mention the earning incurred from selling bitcoin, that was earned through signature campaign ? Smiley

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