Hm... i hope the new owner is trustworthy. I mean it would be really bad if DeadTerra is selling and the new is selling the real shares or so.
The new owner is BitFunder itself (Ukyo).
Ok, i think thats good enough...
Topic: [HOWTO] Trading/Buying/Selling Asicminer Shares Overview and Comparison (Read 10805 times)
August 23, 2013, 07:41:04 AM
The new owner is BitFunder itself (Ukyo).
Ok, i think thats good enough...
August 22, 2013, 05:56:24 PM
Hm... i hope the new owner is trustworthy. I mean it would be really bad if DeadTerra is selling and the new is selling the real shares or so.
The new owner is BitFunder itself (Ukyo).
August 22, 2013, 05:51:00 PM
Hm... i hope the new owner is trustworthy. I mean it would be really bad if DeadTerra is selling and the new is selling the real shares or so.
August 22, 2013, 04:32:25 PM
Not sure if I read it correctly, but it seems Deadterra is going to stop his PT? Am I correct?
He is supposed to be transferring to a new operator. Not sure when though.
Exports are locked for it though.
August 22, 2013, 04:08:24 PM
Not sure if I read it correctly, but it seems Deadterra is going to stop his PT? Am I correct?
May 09, 2013, 09:25:43 AM
hehe, one of my edits needed an edit: you're
*lol* And i took it without thinking it over. But its correct now...
May 08, 2013, 09:37:36 PM
hehe, one of my edits needed an edit: you're
May 08, 2013, 09:29:54 PM
TYPOS:
Multiple instance where you use "shareprice" which should be two words, "share price"
Multiple instances where you say "fess", which should be: "fees"
That's all!
Quote
No Fees (Only donations for escrow while trading shares, if one was used. But that's not needed if your'e greedy.)'
Quote
* AM-PT: As long burnside's ownership of BTC Trading Corp (BTCt.co) is 51% or higher, no management fee will be levied on dividend payments.
Multiple instance where you use "shareprice" which should be two words, "share price"
Multiple instances where you say "fess", which should be: "fees"
That's all!
Ok, i hope i fixed all errors.
May 08, 2013, 08:52:11 PM
TYPOS:
Multiple instance where you use "shareprice" which should be two words, "share price"
Multiple instances where you say "fess", which should be: "fees"
That's all!
Quote
No Fees (Only donations for escrow while trading shares, if one was used. But that's not needed if your'e greedy.)'
Quote
* AM-PT: As long burnside's ownership of BTC Trading Corp (BTCt.co) is 51% or higher, no management fee will be levied on dividend payments.
Multiple instance where you use "shareprice" which should be two words, "share price"
Multiple instances where you say "fess", which should be: "fees"
That's all!
May 08, 2013, 08:46:48 PM
Thanks! Just a couple notes for you.
1. You mention DeadTerra/Burnside in the first AM 100 area, but neither of them are the operators
2. While I can't guarantee this every time, I actually paid faster than Friedcat because my shareholders didn't have to wait for confirmations. It is my goal to always be the fastest (assuming DT and Burnside don't change their current speed)
Also, I have newly release this fraction passthrough on HavelockInvestments.com as well.
Also saw one or two typos I think spell check might catch.
Thanks again!
1. You mention DeadTerra/Burnside in the first AM 100 area, but neither of them are the operators
2. While I can't guarantee this every time, I actually paid faster than Friedcat because my shareholders didn't have to wait for confirmations. It is my goal to always be the fastest (assuming DT and Burnside don't change their current speed)
Also, I have newly release this fraction passthrough on HavelockInvestments.com as well.
Also saw one or two typos I think spell check might catch.
Thanks again!
I found the first point and rewrote it. The second point is noted in the comparison of first 3 types, not again in the comparison at the bottom because both are handled by you.
I dont see typos... can you give some tips? English isnt my first language so it might happen...
Ill check out the third platform tomorrow. All 3 pts are one in fact right? And all have the same rules? Then i only would have to check the fees of the new platform.
Correct, all 3 PTs of mine total into one.
May 08, 2013, 08:05:25 PM
Thanks! Just a couple notes for you.
1. You mention DeadTerra/Burnside in the first AM 100 area, but neither of them are the operators
2. While I can't guarantee this every time, I actually paid faster than Friedcat because my shareholders didn't have to wait for confirmations. It is my goal to always be the fastest (assuming DT and Burnside don't change their current speed)
Also, I have newly release this fraction passthrough on HavelockInvestments.com as well.
Also saw one or two typos I think spell check might catch.
Thanks again!
1. You mention DeadTerra/Burnside in the first AM 100 area, but neither of them are the operators
2. While I can't guarantee this every time, I actually paid faster than Friedcat because my shareholders didn't have to wait for confirmations. It is my goal to always be the fastest (assuming DT and Burnside don't change their current speed)
Also, I have newly release this fraction passthrough on HavelockInvestments.com as well.
Also saw one or two typos I think spell check might catch.
Thanks again!
I found the first point and rewrote it. The second point is noted in the comparison of first 3 types, not again in the comparison at the bottom because both are handled by you.
I dont see typos... can you give some tips? English isnt my first language so it might happen...
Ill check out the third platform tomorrow. All 3 pts are one in fact right? And all have the same rules? Then i only would have to check the fees of the new platform.
May 08, 2013, 07:49:13 PM
Thanks! Just a couple notes for you.
1. You mention DeadTerra/Burnside in the first AM 100 area, but neither of them are the operators
2. While I can't guarantee this every time, I actually paid faster than Friedcat because my shareholders didn't have to wait for confirmations. It is my goal to always be the fastest (assuming DT and Burnside don't change their current speed)
Also, I have newly release this fraction passthrough on HavelockInvestments.com as well.
Also saw one or two typos I think spell check might catch.
Thanks again!
1. You mention DeadTerra/Burnside in the first AM 100 area, but neither of them are the operators
2. While I can't guarantee this every time, I actually paid faster than Friedcat because my shareholders didn't have to wait for confirmations. It is my goal to always be the fastest (assuming DT and Burnside don't change their current speed)
Also, I have newly release this fraction passthrough on HavelockInvestments.com as well.
Also saw one or two typos I think spell check might catch.
Thanks again!
May 08, 2013, 07:27:34 PM
Updated the list. New rules for burnsides PT and new 2 PT-100 securities.
May 08, 2013, 06:52:33 AM
Could you add my passthroughs to this thread?
You can get fractional shares now:
https://bitfunder.com/asset/TAT.ASICMINER
https://btct.co/security/TAT.ASICMINER
You can get fractional shares now:
https://bitfunder.com/asset/TAT.ASICMINER
https://btct.co/security/TAT.ASICMINER
I will add them today. Together with the third new pt. You dont know any more too?
I don't think the third one you mentioned went live. However, I might have news about a new one later this week.
May 08, 2013, 06:11:10 AM
Could you add my passthroughs to this thread?
You can get fractional shares now:
https://bitfunder.com/asset/TAT.ASICMINER
https://btct.co/security/TAT.ASICMINER
You can get fractional shares now:
https://bitfunder.com/asset/TAT.ASICMINER
https://btct.co/security/TAT.ASICMINER
I will add them today. Together with the third new pt. You dont know any more too?
May 08, 2013, 12:04:03 AM
Could you add my passthroughs to this thread?
You can get fractional shares now:
https://bitfunder.com/asset/TAT.ASICMINER
https://btct.co/security/TAT.ASICMINER
You can get fractional shares now:
https://bitfunder.com/asset/TAT.ASICMINER
https://btct.co/security/TAT.ASICMINER
May 07, 2013, 07:43:39 PM
Regarding the third party holding bitcoins... i didnt put this into the list because its done for security. bitfunder didnt want to risk holding bitcoins at their own website so they use weexchange that can put all their power to create a secure website. Im not sure which approach leads to more security at the end. btctc or bitfunders way...
This cuts both ways; two entities mean potentially two points of failure where only one needs to be 'hacked'. There is still a single point of failure in terms of your money, though, so if you hold large sums of cash in wee exchange, you're still subject to the same risk.
As for speed, it has taken me two months to buy a single share at Bitfunder simply because my repeated attempts at setting up a wee exchange account has failed every time. I really dislike "Whoopsie, something went wrong, we won't tell you what" error messages, especially from a web site that at best looks like something half-done from the mid-90s.
Until BF finds a much better way of handling money, I'm staying away, which of course is sad for the companies trying to get funding there.
.b
Since surviving glbse i dont keep more btc than needed at such platforms. I buy shares and thats it. Dont let something lay around. The shares cant be really stolen.
Its sad but if a website is really secure you probably will only find out when it gets hacked. Otherwise its still uncertain. Thats why i cant judge hows security against hacks with btctc, bitfunder or weexchange.
May 07, 2013, 07:36:13 PM
Regarding the third party holding bitcoins... i didnt put this into the list because its done for security. bitfunder didnt want to risk holding bitcoins at their own website so they use weexchange that can put all their power to create a secure website. Im not sure which approach leads to more security at the end. btctc or bitfunders way...
This cuts both ways; two entities mean potentially two points of failure where only one needs to be 'hacked'. There is still a single point of failure in terms of your money, though, so if you hold large sums of cash in wee exchange, you're still subject to the same risk.
As for speed, it has taken me two months to buy a single share at Bitfunder simply because my repeated attempts at setting up a wee exchange account has failed every time. I really dislike "Whoopsie, something went wrong, we won't tell you what" error messages, especially from a web site that at best looks like something half-done from the mid-90s.
Until BF finds a much better way of handling money, I'm staying away, which of course is sad for the companies trying to get funding there.
.b
May 07, 2013, 06:41:51 PM
Looks like there are 3 AM-100-securities right now. I will check them tomorrow and add them into the list. Then i will add the new rules with burnsides pt too. Only wait for an answer to the applying of fees rule.
May 07, 2013, 06:03:25 PM
An on-topic update. 
New terms are up on https://btct.co/security/ASICMINER-PT
Summary here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2064909
The tl;dr: Zero maintenance fees on the divs. First transfer out each month is free. All transfers in are free.
Cheers.
New terms are up on https://btct.co/security/ASICMINER-PT
Summary here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2064909
The tl;dr: Zero maintenance fees on the divs. First transfer out each month is free. All transfers in are free.
Cheers.
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