if you are a long term holder does it really matter when the price of bitcoin begins to grow? You're going to be holding anyway and whatever growth bitcoin experiments is the same growth that you will get, so in my opinion it is better to concentrate ourselves on how to keep holding our coins than to predict accurately when the recovery will happen.
People here have turned being a hodler into a meme sort of thing. Everyone can hodl through an increase when prices keep going up, everyone is an expert when prices keep going up, but once the market is done pumping, it's over for the far majority of the people.
People don't know what it is to buy something based on fundamentals. The only reason they buy crypto is because it's either going up, or they believe it will do so, but have not one single clue about what that increase might be based on. We are dealing with gamblers here, and it will only get worse as more of these find their way to the crypto market.
The very fact that some shitcoins are worth billions in market cap is an indication of how stupid the general "investor" or "hodler" here is.