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Topic: http://myabc88.com/ - ONLINE CASINO NOW ACCEPTING BITCOIN AND PAYPAL DEPOSITS - page 3. (Read 3968 times)

hero member
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a.James...no research is needed.I am staying here.And Genting highland is totally different and way out of the topic discussed here.
Malaysia doesn't prohibit other race to gamble.If i am doing illegal..means your saying Playtech and the rest platforms are also illegal.
Let me give u more site.... easyplay88.com / 2win88.com / live888asia.com / ucw88.com (among examplpes of established online gaming in malaysia) If you search at google playstore...the is SKY3888  ( gambling apps - m.sky3888a.com ) owned by malaysian.

Why do all these domains have 88 in there addresses  Smiley?

Those are local , not known sites owned probably by a single owner. 88 is a lucky number for chinese imo, heard it somewhere before.

 LIEW CHEE LEONG, 114851080226 maybank , (why are you using a local malaysian personal bank account instead of a company account since you said you're 'registered'  ?)
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Don't feed the trolls
lol PayPal on an online casino?
newbie
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WhoIs information of myabc88.com domain name registration


Domain Name: MYABC88.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1942445696_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2015-06-26T23:12:30.00Z
Creation Date: 2015-06-27T06:12:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-06-27T06:12:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed]
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: ACE BET CITY CHEE
Registrant Organization: ACE BET CITY
Registrant Street: B-7-1 D'KIARA APARTMENT
Registrant Street: JALAN WAWASAN 4/12
Registrant City: PUCHONG
Registrant State/Province: SELANGOR
Registrant Postal Code: 47160
Registrant Country: MY
Registrant Phone: +60.01124079450
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Admin Name: CHEE LEONG LIEW
Admin Organization: ACE BET CITY
Admin Street: B-7-1 D'KIARA APARTMENT
Admin Street: JALAN WAWASAN 4/12
Admin City: PUCHONG
Admin State/Province: SELONGOR
Admin Postal Code: 47160
Admin Country: MY
Admin Phone: +60.1124079064
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Tech Name: CHEE LEONG LIEW
Tech Organization: ACE BET CITY
Tech Street: B-7-1 D'KIARA APARTMENT
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full member
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a.James...no research is needed.I am staying here.And Genting highland is totally different and way out of the topic discussed here.
Malaysia doesn't prohibit other race to gamble.If i am doing illegal..means your saying Playtech and the rest platforms are also illegal.
Let me give u more site.... easyplay88.com / 2win88.com / live888asia.com / ucw88.com (among examplpes of established online gaming in malaysia) If you search at google playstore...the is SKY3888  ( gambling apps - m.sky3888a.com ) owned by malaysian.

Why do all these domains have 88 in there addresses  Smiley?
hero member
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Dude , if you're staying there you should know that you cant access most of the online casinos / sportbooks.

http://www.888sport.com/ try that for example  Wink

I tried opening some gambling sites using a malaysian IP and i got this message : check link attached



http://prntscr.com/89063i


Your move op  Wink


http://www.gamblingsites.org/laws/malaysia/ 
full member
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Like i said. its just being integrated with bitcoin payment and paypal. We are long established in Malaysia, but then we were using local bank payments only.



Your domain was registered 27-jun-2015, so what do you mean you were long established?
And if you are licensed why the whois info on your domain is empty?
hero member
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d.i will have the IT to check on that. http://www.provablyfairplay.com/

That site doesn't look to be informative or a good learning tool IMO. Instead, I would suggest you to ask your IT guys to check some of your competitors in bitcoin gambling industry, and see how their provably fair system works.
newbie
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a.James...no research is needed.I am staying here.And Genting highland is totally different and way out of the topic discussed here.
Malaysia doesn't prohibit other race to gamble.If i am doing illegal..means your saying Playtech and the rest platforms are also illegal.
Let me give u more site.... easyplay88.com / 2win88.com / live888asia.com / ucw88.com (among examplpes of established online gaming in malaysia) If you search at google playstore...the is SKY3888  ( gambling apps - m.sky3888a.com ) owned by malaysian.

b.The house(myabc88.com) is always the entity that is taking the liability / risk from the win on the bet placed by the player. Which generally means the operator who is running the financial operations takes the risk because all wins and risks are borne by the operator.

c.However if a game provider say Playtech 12win were to provided the same slot game with the same Progressive Jackpot across many different operators it would be the game provider that would generally take the liability for the win with the condition that all contributions to the Progressive Jackpot go to the Game Provider instead of to the Operator.

d.The game provider generally takes a cut of the nett win (Wagers - Wins) or on the revenue depending on the terms between the game provider and the
operator.

hero member
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Well it looks good and its great that you have started accepting BTC but can you tell us more about your casino, when was it established, how long has it been running etc. And if you want to compete with the other BTC Casinos then you'd have to make your games provably fair. That is the first concern of any gambler that there should be a way to verify the results so there is no way to casino to alter them in any way. So it's good that you're taking this seriously and I hope you can adopt this in all of your games.

Also, Do you accept players from all over the world? Some of the Bitcoin Casinos don't as there are some legal issues, so have someone look into that and clear us about it here.
hero member
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You're definitely not licensed. Did some research and the only legal gambling allowed in Malaysia is in Genting Highlands(besides Da Ma Cai, and a few more lottery companies). Online site's are illegal and the country has blocked most of the online gambling sites.
As you said, it's illegal for muslim's to gamble, so why did malaysia block most major online casinos and sportsbook Huh?


I doubt paypal would allow any release of funds with what you're running.

newbie
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a.MUSLIMS ARE ILLEGAL TO GAMBLE.
MALAYSIA IS A MULTIRACIAL COUNTRY.




b.The concept of "provably fair" is only necessary for an online game being operated by an unlicensed operator.  (OK i AGREE)

If the games are regulated as is the case for legally operating physical casinos, then the games have been certified to not be able to change odds on the player or "fix" the results.  The math behind the game has been verified to be free of loopholes and gotchas.

My question to you ...

a. myabc88.com have the License to operate Playtech's 12Win , Newtown, AG Group, 1S Games, U9BET and MaxBet.The Platforms are Known Casino platforms in the World.Now my question is  concept of "provably fair" is really required? If yes Where should it applicable? All the Software are Direct license From respective gaming platforms where myabc88.com as the Licensed Operator.
full member
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Since when does a muslim country allow online casinos ?

Good point  Smiley.
Anyhow provably fair play is must. And please note that players use bitcoin for its anonymity feature. Downloading a software is against that.
legendary
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monero
...snip...
14.Again ...FURTHER QUESTIONS kindly ask the LIVE CHAT.They will assist you

trying to get the criticism out of the public into your even more moderated realm?  Grin nice try, but won't happen.
legendary
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More casino (in italy specially ) accept paypal for deposit (obviously later confirmation of id or passport). But i don't have understand, if i deposit in paypal i can withdraw only in paypal or already in bitcoin or other? Thanks
newbie
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a.Well this is not a web based casino. You still need to download the Playtech pc software or android version of the games.
b.We are not 100% bitcoin based casinos
c.Further info you can just directly contact our 24/7 chat available on the website.
d.i will have the IT to check on that. http://www.provablyfairplay.com/
e.We are not NEW.
f.Gambling is ILLEGAL FOR MUSLIM. NOT other races.
g.Paypal payment is Instant
10. Like i said...we just blend in to start accepting bitcoins.
11. We have demo account where u can login and have a look
12.I am not smart neither dumb as well.
13.I dont know if your professional..but what i can say...if you can setup these same platform like us..I totally salute you.
14.Again ...FURTHER QUESTIONS kindly ask the LIVE CHAT.They will assist you
hero member
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Just like the above posts mentioned, provably fair system is a must in the bitcoin gambling industry. And why should someone play on your new site when there are quite some established provably fair casinos?
sr. member
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i don't know but i m not sure that accepting bitcoin and paypal in a casino online with not provably fair is a good think to bring people in your site you should think more about that before you post that i think your site reputation is going down  Wink
legendary
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monero
And your always welcome to contribute your ideas towards better guidance or implementation wherever required.
There is nothing Moronic or stupid, foolish, senseless, brainless, mindless, idiotic, imbecile, insane, lunatic, asinine, ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, preposterous, silly, inane, witless, half-baked, empty-headed, unintelligent, slow-witted, weak-minded for me to be here promoting.

I suppose you can suggest us something to us rather just

ok here is the first suggestion for free: before coming here asking for other's money, get used to the "unwritten" rules of crypto gambling.

1. if you're not provably fair, GTFO!

yes ofc you can offer a shitload of bonuses and stuff to lure people in, but discarding rule number 1 will stop you from being successfull and/or ever trusted in here.

I seriously doubt you're anyway near being professional.

edit: noob with self-moderated thread in gambling section? another clear no go.

edit2: not even a ssl-certificate? oh dear...
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And your always welcome to contribute your ideas towards better guidance or implementation wherever required.
There is nothing Moronic or stupid, foolish, senseless, brainless, mindless, idiotic, imbecile, insane, lunatic, asinine, ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, preposterous, silly, inane, witless, half-baked, empty-headed, unintelligent, slow-witted, weak-minded for me to be here promoting.

I suppose you can suggest us something to us rather just


Good use of thesaurus.com. I didn't say your site was moronic. I said you'd be a moron to bet there.

So you'd like a suggestion? I thought that was perfectly clear in my first post.

Here's a suggestion: Be provably fair.
hero member
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And your always welcome to contribute your ideas towards better guidance or implementation wherever required.
There is nothing Moronic or stupid, foolish, senseless, brainless, mindless, idiotic, imbecile, insane, lunatic, asinine, ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, preposterous, silly, inane, witless, half-baked, empty-headed, unintelligent, slow-witted, weak-minded for me to be here promoting.

I suppose you can suggest us something to us rather just


ahaha, I like your long sentence, really funny. Do you have a license, dude?

And what's btc exchange rate for your currency, you don't accept USD deposit right?
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