I still would prefer google over huawei and the reason is simple. I donot want my personal information call in the hands of a company that is controlled by a regime. I understand that google also know everything about me but it is located in a free country that has democracy. Huawei on the other hand is not, it is located in country that is ruled by bunch of control freeks. Sad to say but the situation the world is in now has been brought by that country.
Google is actively working with different states and their authorities. Especially with intel agencies, which strip most of the privacy off you. Google or Huawei, it's mostly the same crap. Hell, a "free" corporation in a "free" country might have even more power than Huawei earns by working with the CCP. I'd argue that the in-depth personnel of intel is most likely as "control freak" as the front leadership of the Communist Party. 
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I really have a lot of problems trying to disable Google apps and Microsoft stuff. The new Google free phones from Huawei have a massive appeal for me, but it doesn't look as if we can get them in the UK for a reasonable price.
Do any of you guys want to be Google free on your phones?
Do any of you guys want to be Google free on your phones?
I still would prefer google over huawei and the reason is simple. I donot want my personal information call in the hands of a company that is controlled by a regime. I understand that google also know everything about me but it is located in a free country that has democracy. Huawei on the other hand is not, it is located in country that is ruled by bunch of control freeks. Sad to say but the situation the world is in now has been brought by that country.
Personally, it is a big loss for Huawei in my opinion, I mean it was just everything on an android phone is connected to google without having this google I think it just doesn't worth paying for.
I think we deserve a lil' breath of pure air after all the stuff Google has been able to learn from us. It's getting quite scary how people now believe life without Google cannot exist! - Huawei App Gallery cannot install everything that is available on google play store their are so many applications that is not available at the moment.
- There are applications that are not going to work without the Google service or that might experience problems just like updated versions of Netflix etc.
How about google play service + GMS?
etc.
Just not worth it considering there are so many China Brand that is offering the same android phones and performance with google play in it.
These phones without Google on them most likely have some custom ROMs on XDA you can flash together with the GApps. Probably wouldn't be as stable as the stock OS is, but it's still a workaround one can go for if they really want a phone with Google that comes with it not installed. There might even be a GApps zip file you could flash without even having to move to another ROM.
On the other hand though, unlocking the bootloader to be able to flash the ROM is a bit of a hassle when it comes to Huawei phones.
I've been using Android 8 without any kind of Google app and I'm using F-Droid as the app store. I can get most of the apps I really need off F-Droid, but there are obviously some exceptions such as WhatsApp although I think you can get the APK & use it without GApps if it's a necessity. FOSS and Google-free life feels great is all I can say.
Google losing its app on Huawei phone is a big loss for the company, I am against most of the policy of China but letting go of a very big market is a regrettable decision for Google. I commend that Google did make a stand but in a business perspective they are losing. I find the tactic of Chinese government very strategic because they are using their population as a bargaining chip for businesses and country's affairs, though I feel sad that their citizen will never taste real freedom.
The fact is that Google apps don’t come pre-installed on Huawei phones, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t ways for everyone to install the same apps on their smartphone. In other words, every Huawei smartphone/tablet can have all the Google app installed, but of course unofficially and at the personal responsibility of each individual user.
What Huawei is working on now is the proposal that Google Apps become available through their App Gallery, which would definitely allow them to become powerful players in the market again. For now, American politics has no ear for any concessions, especially after very serious accusations against China regarding everything that is happening regarding the pandemic.
Personally, it is a big loss for Huawei in my opinion, I mean it was just everything on an android phone is connected to google without having this google I think it just doesn't worth paying for.
- Huawei App Gallery cannot install everything that is available on google play store their are so many applications that is not available at the moment.
- There are applications that are not going to work without the Google service or that might experience problems just like updated versions of Netflix etc.
How about google play service + GMS?
etc.
Just not worth it considering there are so many China Brand that is offering the same android phones and performance with google play in it.
Google losing its app on Huawei phone is a big loss for the company, I am against most of the policy of China but letting go of a very big market is a regrettable decision for Google. I commend that Google did make a stand but in a business perspective they are losing. I find the tactic of Chinese government very strategic because they are using their population as a bargaining chip for businesses and country's affairs, though I feel sad that their citizen will never taste real freedom.
The fact is that Google apps don’t come pre-installed on Huawei phones, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t ways for everyone to install the same apps on their smartphone. In other words, every Huawei smartphone/tablet can have all the Google app installed, but of course unofficially and at the personal responsibility of each individual user.
What Huawei is working on now is the proposal that Google Apps become available through their App Gallery, which would definitely allow them to become powerful players in the market again. For now, American politics has no ear for any concessions, especially after very serious accusations against China regarding everything that is happening regarding the pandemic.
Google losing its app on Huawei phone is a big loss for the company, I am against most of the policy of China but letting go of a very big market is a regrettable decision for Google. I commend that Google did make a stand but in a business perspective they are losing. I find the tactic of Chinese government very strategic because they are using their population as a bargaining chip for businesses and country's affairs, though I feel sad that their citizen will never taste real freedom.
You will replace Google and NSA spyware with chinese spyware. And chinese spyware is of lower quality, it means some 3rd party can get unauthorized access to it.
It's true but there some linux based smartphones around like for example Librem 5 . It has hardware based kill switches for wifi,camera and microphone so if you are concerned about your privacy you can turned these off when you are not using your phone.
I wish I could go completely Google free, but my options would then be limited. One big issue for me was that WhatsApp really is a need and I believe there's no point in going for a fully free experience where you're off Apple/Google/Microsoft/whatever other company's track if the experience will not really be fully free. I believe WhatsApp doesn't even work if you remove absolutely everything related to Google from your Android phone, but I may be wrong.
Tizen is another linux based operating system and mostly used by Samsung electronics. There is a Whatsapp native version available on their App store. There are few Samsung Z series phones around with this OS.
Few years back we have ubuntu phone which tried to do exactly what Librem and few other linux based smartphones are trying to do but it failed because Android and IOS have huge stack of apps. This means that any competing mobile platform must match or at least offer a compelling reason to ignore the benefits of an endless selection of apps. Secondly it must match the same hardware compatibility and performance as the existing phones.
Huawei flagship are one of the best but they are on a costly side and a premium band.
To really own your phone, rooting and installing a custom rom preferably without G-suite is the way to go.
https://www.androidcentral.com/best-phone-rooting-and-modding
To really own your phone, rooting and installing a custom rom preferably without G-suite is the way to go.
https://www.androidcentral.com/best-phone-rooting-and-modding
I want Huawei because I'm being told that I can't have it. 
LMAO So reverse psychology works great on you, you say?
I think that Huawei produces great products at competitive prices, and I resent being told that I can;t use their products because I have to install a load of crappy intrusive apps that Google keeps pushing at me, and that I have to spend time trying to disable.
They probably do. But as soon as a company recognized as a brand, the prices rise. And imho Huawei makes no exception.
One good point for you is that the devices without Google Play may be a tiny bit cheaper. And if you are so keen to have Huawei... I'm sorry, my idea cannot help.
I want Huawei because I'm being told that I can't have it.
I think that Huawei produces great products at competitive prices, and I resent being told that I can;t use their products because I have to install a load of crappy intrusive apps that Google keeps pushing at me, and that I have to spend time trying to disable.
I think that Huawei produces great products at competitive prices, and I resent being told that I can;t use their products because I have to install a load of crappy intrusive apps that Google keeps pushing at me, and that I have to spend time trying to disable.
OP, if you don't want Google Play and the price is an issue, why don't you simply buy some no name smartphone from Chinese sellers (AliExpress and such) or resellers in your country? You have a good chance to find high specs phones at good prices if you research it well.
I am more typical user and I wanted Google Play, so I've bought Redmi at great price, although Xiaomi started to become a known brand.
Shortly: maybe you actually don't necessarily want Huawei.
I am more typical user and I wanted Google Play, so I've bought Redmi at great price, although Xiaomi started to become a known brand.
Shortly: maybe you actually don't necessarily want Huawei.
Huawei not have Google services yet in mate 30 and after that too (P40,Mate40) huawai say they make app gallery bigger to support more 3rd party app.
if you not use a lot of google ecosystem (gmail,map,drive) you can use huawai it good phone.
PS.huawai say if they can deal with US to use google service it can update in 1day to use it.
if you not use a lot of google ecosystem (gmail,map,drive) you can use huawai it good phone.
PS.huawai say if they can deal with US to use google service it can update in 1day to use it.
All new Huawei smartphones from the model Mate 30 is without Google services, so you actually get a device free of Google services if you pick newest models, but they are still based on Android OS.
I have P30 which is one of the best smartphones which I had, and no matter the cost, I can say it's worth every penny. Regarding Google services, there is no problem for me, just turn off all that you not need or what's annoying to you. Only info I get is when some new security/critical updates is available, and that is the most important thing I want to know.
I have P30 which is one of the best smartphones which I had, and no matter the cost, I can say it's worth every penny. Regarding Google services, there is no problem for me, just turn off all that you not need or what's annoying to you. Only info I get is when some new security/critical updates is available, and that is the most important thing I want to know.
There is a big difference between collecting my data in an attempt to manipulate my behaviour for commercial gain, and collecting my data to check on my political activities. My objection is over the way Google and Microsoft mess with my settings and activities in an attempt to scratch a few extra billion pounds.
I don't really care if people are spying on me.
ok
We know that the Five Eyes alliance has backdoors into all phones and computers
if you don't care about people spying on you, then backdoors into your hardware are irrelevant
that is more of a concern for me than the Chinese government, if it is true that they will be using Huawei with open source software.
hmmm, the Chinese government openly design software and infrastructure that spies on people in China. What difference does it make if western corporations are surruptitiously surveillance software in Google phones, and that Huawei are openly publishing their software, and their intentions as to how they will use the data they collect? Is your answer "Huawei want to collect my data to use it to give them power over my life, but they're honest abusers as they informed me beforehand"?
My life is so boring, that I would like to sincerely apologize to any poor corporate spy or last-row underpaid bureaucrat that may currently be reading my email, messages or phone conversations. Sorry mate, is just that boring - not hiding nuting my.
I do not have payment methods installed in phones or computers.
I do not have payment methods installed in phones or computers.
I'm pissed off with Google, Apple and Microsoft for a variety of reasons. I use a cheap smartphobne all the time, and it is great. I use very few apps, and Google doesn't like that, and it keeps trying to change my settings, and sending me stupid messages. I won't be moving to 5G for quite some time, if ever. There are alternatives appearing that may be better for me,
We know that the Five Eyes alliance has backdoors into all phones and computers, and that is more of a concern for me than the Chinese government, if it is true that they will be using Huawei with open source software. The whole issue is rubbish anyway. Most computers and phones use Chinese chips, and the so called health service use Chinese manufactured drugs, that should be more of a concern.
I need a second phone, so I will be watching the market,and I'll probably buy a Huawei phone when a suitable one appears.
We know that the Five Eyes alliance has backdoors into all phones and computers, and that is more of a concern for me than the Chinese government, if it is true that they will be using Huawei with open source software. The whole issue is rubbish anyway. Most computers and phones use Chinese chips, and the so called health service use Chinese manufactured drugs, that should be more of a concern.
I need a second phone, so I will be watching the market,and I'll probably buy a Huawei phone when a suitable one appears.
Perhaps you are in love with huawei or you are literally pissed of with Google. I am not sure how globally this brilliant copy cat will survive without the cooperation of google.
Already Chinese companies are known for their illegal activities but, hey! We are do much dependent on them.
Already Chinese companies are known for their illegal activities but, hey! We are do much dependent on them.
Hi,
This is the Burkina Faso spying software. We don't have enough money to produce software to steal your sensitive data and sell it for
millions. Instead, please just tell us your name, age, orientation, address, political views, last time you insured your car & with which company,
a list of last things you purchased in the past 6 months and a photo of yourself.
On a more serious side, it's interesting how you can choose for google to not collect information about yourself, BUT if you ever agree by mistake
with an app downloaded on your android phone to share your information, google will have direct access to everything
I am still researching if this applies to Apple too.
This is the Burkina Faso spying software. We don't have enough money to produce software to steal your sensitive data and sell it for
millions. Instead, please just tell us your name, age, orientation, address, political views, last time you insured your car & with which company,
a list of last things you purchased in the past 6 months and a photo of yourself.
On a more serious side, it's interesting how you can choose for google to not collect information about yourself, BUT if you ever agree by mistake
with an app downloaded on your android phone to share your information, google will have direct access to everything
I am still researching if this applies to Apple too.
I'm not sure why the Anglophone empire is so stressed about China. Maybe Tony Blair's Schwarzman Scholarship isn't working. My only problem with China is that their restaurants can't cook decent English fish and chips. Roll on the time when we can chuck the French out of our fishing grounds, and we can reduce the price of this traditional meal.
The current government and corporate control of the Internet and our computer is so over the top and disruptive, that a cleaner Chinese variant would be like a breath of Spring, and who cares if Huawei has left a backdoor there. The current system seem to have the whole of the back wall removed.
The current government and corporate control of the Internet and our computer is so over the top and disruptive, that a cleaner Chinese variant would be like a breath of Spring, and who cares if Huawei has left a backdoor there. The current system seem to have the whole of the back wall removed.
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