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August 17, 2015, 01:30:09 PM
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China suspends or closes 50 websites for 'spreading rumors' about Tianjin blasts



"China's censors have been working in overdrive trying to cleanse the web of "dangerous misinformation" in the days after Tianjin was hit by massive explosions. Working with impressive efficiency, they've already announced punishment for the worst offenders.

In a statement released late on Saturday, the Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC) accused 50 websites of "creating panic by publishing unverified information or letting users spread groundless rumors," reports Xinhua.

Some of the more groundless of these included "the blasts killed at least 1,000 people," "shopping malls in Tianjin have been looted" and "there was a leadership change in Tianjin government."

The CAC said that these lies have negative effects on society—much like chemical explosions for example.18 of the websites have had their licenses revoked, while the 32 others have merely been suspended.

Tencent News reports that a male netizen has been sentenced to five days in jail after posting rumors that 1,300 people had been killed in the explosions....."

"They've also been liberally deleting posts on Weibo. One of the most deleted posts came from esteemed Caijing magazine, which cited an interview with a firefighter who said that they were not told that there were toxic chemicals on scene that would react dangerously with water. The post was retweeted almost 10,000 times before being harmonized. Other posts speculating about the contents of the pollutants and what that means for the city's air have also been among the top expunged."
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August 17, 2015, 03:18:21 AM
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Tianjin blasts: fears over cyanide pollution as Chinese media lambasts officials

High levels of sodium cyanide have been detected by wastewater monitors amid growing anger at the blasts which killed at least 114 people

Alarming levels of sodium cyanide have been found at wastewater monitoring stations in the disaster-stricken city of Tianjin almost five days after a series of deadly explosions claimed at least 114 lives and sparked intense criticism of the Chinese government.

At a press conference on Monday morning, Bao Jingling, the chief engineer from Tianjin’s environmental protection bureau, said excessive levels of the toxic chemical had been detected in surface wastewater at the blast site. The highest levels detected were 27 times acceptable limits.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/17/tianjin-explosions-fears-over-pollution-as-chinese-media-lambasts-officials
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August 16, 2015, 08:52:07 PM
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OK.. here is the latest toll:

Confirmed deaths: 112 (including 21 firefighters)
Confirmed missing: 95 (including 85 firefighters)
Total: 207

As I had posted earlier, I believe that these figures are a vast underestimation. The real death toll might be somewhere around 500 to 1,000.  Angry

Those are just the confirmed deaths though, right? I mean, there was a high rise apartment building across the street from the source of the explosion...I imagine in the aftermath of this within the next few days the death toll is going to climb drastically
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August 16, 2015, 05:25:26 PM
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RT  ‏@rosetangy : #TianjinBlasts missing people's families protest, demanding info. disclosure: "Bring back my son!" #天津 大爆炸失蹤人員家屬上街示威





here is a video : http://www.reuters.com/video/2015/08/16/families-of-missing-fire-fighters-demand?videoId=365302546&mod=related&channelName=environmentNews

(The death toll from massive explosions in China's port of Tianjin has risen to 112 and 95 people, most of them fire fighters, are missing, state media said on Sunday, suggesting the toll will rise significantly)

Well they are suggesting the number will rise. There are still 720 wounded in the hospital as well in varying conditions.

The death toll rose to 112 from Wednesday's disaster, which sent massive yellow and orange fireballs into the sky, hurled burning debris across a vast industrial area, crumpled cars and shipping containers, burnt out buildings and shattered windows of nearby apartments.

The number of missing rose to 95, most of them fire fighters, state media said, suggesting the toll would rise significantly. More than 720 people remained in hospital

Read more : http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/16/us-china-blast-idUSKCN0QL03920150816
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August 16, 2015, 01:47:40 PM
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(The death toll from massive explosions in China's port of Tianjin has risen to 112 and 95 people, most of them fire fighters, are missing, state media said on Sunday, suggesting the toll will rise significantly)

Well they are suggesting the number will rise. There are still 720 wounded in the hospital as well in varying conditions.
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August 16, 2015, 10:02:43 AM
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OK.. here is the latest toll:

Confirmed deaths: 112 (including 21 firefighters)
Confirmed missing: 95 (including 85 firefighters)
Total: 207

As I had posted earlier, I believe that these figures are a vast underestimation. The real death toll might be somewhere around 500 to 1,000.  Angry


I agree these numbers are not right.

Tianjin explosions: sodium cyanide on site may have been 70 times allowed amount

So, they are either incompetent, or someone did this on purpose... 70 times the amount is huge.
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August 16, 2015, 09:28:48 AM
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OK.. here is the latest toll:

Confirmed deaths: 112 (including 21 firefighters)
Confirmed missing: 95 (including 85 firefighters)
Total: 207

As I had posted earlier, I believe that these figures are a vast underestimation. The real death toll might be somewhere around 500 to 1,000.  Angry
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August 16, 2015, 08:33:04 AM
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Was it aluminium melted? That was very high temperature there. Still can't believe it was just 21 tons of TNT. Looks like a way more powerful blast? Could be hundreds of tons.

it was reported that is car tire
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August 16, 2015, 08:23:44 AM
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RT  ‏@rosetangy : #TianjinBlasts missing people's families protest, demanding info. disclosure: "Bring back my son!" #天津 大爆炸失蹤人員家屬上街示威



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August 16, 2015, 05:05:55 AM
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Tianjin explosions: sodium cyanide on site may have been 70 times allowed amount

Official death toll rises to 112 as officials find what they believe to be hundreds of tonnes of the toxic chemical

Chinese officials have found what they believe to be hundreds of tonnes of sodium cyanide at two locations within the site of Wednesday’s deadly blasts in Tianjin as a massive cleanup effort continues, state media reported on Sunday.

The discovery came after reports claimed that up to 700 tonnes of the chemical – 70 times the permitted amount – were stored at the site, with some reports suggesting the company that owned the warehouse where the blasts originated, Rui Hai International Logistics, may have been illegally transporting chemicals.

On Sunday, authorities raised the official death toll to 112, and the number of missing people to 95, including 85 firefighters.

The Chinese premier, Li Keqiang, visited the area on Sunday afternoon on behalf of the president, Xi Jinping, according to the People’s Daily, the Chinese Communist party’s official mouthpiece.

On Saturday people were evacuated from within a 3km zone around the blast site as experts investigated the media claims that about the excessive amounts of sodium cyanide stored at the facility.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/16/tianjin-blasts-sodium-cyanide-on-site-may-have-been-70-times-allowed-amount
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August 16, 2015, 05:04:36 AM
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Sadly those "missing" will never be accounted for since some may have been vaporized. Chinese media...  Shocked

Even the total number of missing people seems to be much greater than the government estimates. A large number of the workers were migrants from Western and North-Western China. Many of them were not registered with the authorities, and therefore they have not been counted in the final toll. There were some posts regarding this in social media, but the government deleted them.
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August 16, 2015, 05:02:32 AM
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other port explosions have killed large numbers of people in the past
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August 16, 2015, 04:37:53 AM
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Sadly those "missing" will never be accounted for since some may have been vaporized. Chinese media...  Shocked
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August 16, 2015, 04:17:04 AM
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Holy shit, did you notice the second explosions ? That was huge and it compelled the camera person to move from his place who was miles away from the place of incident. I haven't gotten any news here in india which shows that they have not yet revealed this.
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August 16, 2015, 03:19:55 AM
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On Wednesday the 12th August 2015, at least two explosions occurred within 30 seconds of each other at a container storage station at the Port of Tianjin in the Binhai New Area of Tianjin, China.[7][8] Over one hundred people were killed and hundreds more injured. The cause of the explosions was not immediately known, but initial reports pointed to an industrial accident.[8] Fire caused by the initial explosions continued to burn out of control through the end of the week, repeatedly causing secondary explosions.

Chinese state media reported that at least the initial blast was from unknown hazardous materials in shipping containers at a plant warehouse owned by Ruihai Logistics,[9] a firm specializing in handling hazardous materials.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosions
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August 16, 2015, 02:40:55 AM
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Two massive explosions in the port of Tianjin, northern China, have killed dozens of people, left hundreds injured and devastated large areas of the city.

Much of what took place, or is still happening now, is unclear - but here is what we do know.
How did the blasts happen?

They took place at a warehouse at the port which was reportedly storing "dangerous and chemical goods". The building is owned by Tianjin Dongjiang Port Ruihai International Logistics.

Ruihai Logistics was reportedly set up in 2011, and it handles about one million tonnes of cargo annually. Chinese media said that at least one member of Ruihai's staff had been arrested.

Officials insist it is not yet clear what triggered the two blasts, about 30 seconds apart.

Before the explosions, many firefighters were already at the scene trying to control a blaze, AFP reports.

There have been suggestions that water sprayed on some of the chemicals could have led to the blasts.

Calcium carbide, known to be at the site, reacts with water to create the highly explosive acetylene.

Chemical experts suggest an acetylene blast could then have detonated ammonium nitrate for a much larger blast.

Profile of Tianjin city
How big were the explosions?

The China Earthquake Networks Centre said the initial explosion, in a city with a population of nearly 7.5 million. had a power equivalent to three tonnes of TNT detonating, while the second was the equivalent of 21 tonnes.

The second was so big that satellites orbiting Earth picked it up as well. Chinese data site Cnbeta published pictures showing the sudden flare.
How bad is the devastation?

The explosion destroyed a significant amount of goods stored at and around the port, in the Binhai New District.

Large shipping containers were tossed into the air like matchsticks and were crumpled by the blasts.

A logistics park containing several thousand cars was incinerated by the fireball. Renault says some 1,500 of its cars were lost, while Hyundai said it had around 4,000 cars on the site - although it has not yet assessed the level of damage.

The blasts rippled out several kilometres from the port into residential areas.

The impact rocked entire buildings, shattered windows and tore doors off their hinges.

More than 720 people were taken to hospital, of whom nearly 60 are either critically or seriously injured. Reuters reports that several thousand people living near the port have had to leave their homes, and are now staying in local schools.
How are the blasts being dealt with?

Chinese media say more than 1,000 firefighters are still at the scene, with some fires still burning.

More than 200 chemical and biological experts from the military are on site.

President Xi Jinping and Premier Li Keqiang have vowed to hold a thorough investigation and ensure "open and transparent information disclosure to the public".

China has also ordered a nationwide check on dangerous chemicals and explosives.

In a report, Xinhua said the cabinet, the State Council, had ordered "governments at all levels to reinforce the safety management".

They should "firmly implement special regulatory measures for highly toxic chemicals such as cyanide, as well as inflammable and explosive materials".
Is it safe?

Reuters reported that, according to a 2014 government assessment, the Ruihai facility was designed to store chemicals including butanone, an explosive industrial solvent, sodium cyanide and compressed natural gas.

The company also reportedly handles toluene diisocyanate, which is used in the production of flexible polyurethane foams.

Officials have confirmed that calcium carbide, potassium nitrate, ammonium nitrate and sodium nitrate were at the warehouse.

Police have also confirmed that sodium cyanide was present near the site. It is soluble in water and, when dissolved or burned, it releases the highly poisonous gas hydrogen cyanide.

You can read more about the toxic chemicals believed to be at the site here.

Xinhua said on Thursday that drains from Tianjin to the Bohai sea - a gulf in the Yellow Sea - had been closed "to stem a chemical leak".

One official on Friday insisted the "air and water in Tianjin is safe", but on Saturday the authorities ordered the evacuation of a 3km radius around the site.
What impact will this have on Tianjin port?

Tianjin is a significant industrial port near Beijing, and is a gateway for goods going in and out of the capital and the industrial north of the country. It is also a main trading hub for metals and steel.

The port remains partially open as the explosion was contained in one section.

But authorities have imposed stringent checks and movement in and out of the port has slowed down, which is likely to affect some industries, the Mysteel.com news portal reported.

Mining giant BHP Billiton said its port operations and shipments had been disrupted, although its iron ore discharging berth was undamaged.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-33844084


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August 16, 2015, 01:14:40 AM
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Was it aluminium melted? That was very high temperature there. Still can't believe it was just 21 tons of TNT. Looks like a way more powerful blast? Could be hundreds of tons.

That car parking lot was at a considerable distance from where the explosion actually happened. Still we can see molten metal on the floor. Aluminium melts at 660.3 °C and therefore we can safely assume that the explosion was much more powerful than that was reported by the government officials.

At a blast like this, there should be hundreds of casualties. But explosion happend during the night. There were definetely less people in the port area. So less died. BUt already more than a hundred dead bodies discovered.

The officials are saying that a "few" dozen people are still missing. I doubt whether all of their remains might be found, given the high temperatures which the blast has produced.
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August 16, 2015, 12:09:51 AM
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Hmm.... so the death toll among the firefighters has risen to 21? A few basic precautionary measures could have avoided these casualties. An unknown number of policemen, paramilitary personnel, and soldiers also died during the relief efforts. So it is very likely that less than half of the total casualties were from the industrial workers.

At a blast like this, there should be hundreds of casualties. But explosion happend during the night. There were definetely less people in the port area. So less died. BUt already more than a hundred dead bodies discovered.
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August 16, 2015, 12:05:48 AM
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Was it aluminium melted? That was very high temperature there. Still can't believe it was just 21 tons of TNT. Looks like a way more powerful blast? Could be hundreds of tons.
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August 16, 2015, 12:04:52 AM
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Hmm.... so the death toll among the firefighters has risen to 21? A few basic precautionary measures could have avoided these casualties. An unknown number of policemen, paramilitary personnel, and soldiers also died during the relief efforts. So it is very likely that less than half of the total casualties were from the industrial workers.
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