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Topic: Hullcoin: The World’s First Local Government Cryptocurrency (Read 5789 times)

newbie
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MancCoin already under development www.MancCoin.org - to come Scouse coin Geordie Coin Essex coin
legendary
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Im pretty sure this was just an April Fools joke.
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So all power to the elected representatives of Hull - they're trying to achieve something bitcoin hasn't managed yet.

+1 Spot on.
legendary
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yes get the government involved so we can no longer have privacy and taxless transactions. Morons...

Remember that the technology is neutral. Some of you are assuming that just because a bunch of libertarians have adopted Bitcoin (and tried to push out anyone who isn't a libertarian), that people with other agendas can't adopt the technology for their own purposes.

Actually anyone can make a cryptocurrency, including a city council and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

Hull council are being rather revolutionary:

* they haven't used taxpayer money for this, it's funded by a donation
* they've creatively thought of a way for people to earn these coins through work (a key part of a crypto-economy, and one that bitcoin hasn't cracked yet, though other alts like devcoin are actively working on this)
* they are going to use their influence to try to get local supermarkets to accept the coin, probably in it's raw form without an exchange, like some many local "trading points" schemes. If successful, they'll have a real economy around their alt.

Suppose we have another 2008 banking meltdown and this time govts arn't able to unblock the system and people simply don't get paid their wages and businesses can't buy and sell stuff.

Well, Hull will be well placed, because they'll have done the ground work to have a payment system that by-passes the banks, so people can buy their groceries and pay their rent.

For everyone else it'll be hell. It'll be hell even for bitcoin people, because many of the businesses that pretend to accept bitcoin do nothing of the sort - they rely on intermediaries to change the money into dollars, and pay them in dollars, and they receive their dollars via the current banking system.

So all power to the elected representatives of Hull - they're trying to achieve something bitcoin hasn't managed yet.

Also, Hullcoin may succeed because they're simply talking about supporting the local economy, there is no ideology involved. Bitcoin's biggest achilles heel is that some people are trying to force a libertarian agenda on everyone, and the majority of the world isn't libertarian. Trying to insist that anyone who adopts bitcoin must adopt libertarianism is the biggest thing holding bitcoin back - people don't like to be forced into anything.
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yes get the government involved so we can no longer have privacy and taxless transactions. Morons...

You are forgetting about one thing. Bitcoin Smiley
Governments can have their own cryprocurrency just like they have their own fiat currency.

Does that stop you from using Bitcoin?  Wink

imagine you go to Hull and use your 1hull coin to buy a loaf of bread. then you want to go to manchester and use... "manc" coin instead of cashing out back to fiat and then going to the manc coin exchange to buy manc coins.. you would use bitcoin as the middleman..

legendary
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yes get the government involved so we can no longer have privacy and taxless transactions. Morons...


Please go sit in the corner.
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Shame DWP isn't HMRC. They are probably decentralising the idea of income within govt so they don't have to pay tax.
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All I can say after seeing the item on Sky News the other night is - great...

This raises the general public's awareness of cryptocurrency in general and helps to counteract all the negativity i.e. Chinese/Russian stance on BTC, mt.gox etc. etc. etc.

Of great interest is the statement that DWP do NOT consider crypto as income...

If one of our City Councils is actively promoting the use of crypto then the wider acceptance cause, hopefully, must be aided.

I did chuckle at their super-dooper mining rig..!  Grin
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Can one Mine HullCoin?Huh

If so, how do you go about doing such. (Links to software etc)

you cant mine it. you can only purchase it for £1 per coin. thats the whole point. they dont want people making free money
as i said before its not to be treated as decentralised. but as a way of sowing that blockchains are better then current banking databases, and the speed of transactions is faster then wire transfer/visa/mastercard can ever be.

onc people realize that blockchains are better in Hull. people will then expand their investments to realise bitcoin is even better with even more freedoms then Hull coin can offer.

Hullcoin will be just a demonstration of the differences of bank accounts vs phone app services, were true value is transmitted instantly

combination of feathercoin and ven? seems an interesting idea.
legendary
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I think the implementation could have been thought out better (+1 to the coloured coins suggestion) but this part gets a big thumbs up. So long as no one tries to wrap red tape around everything they could slash their council budget with this, it could be worth while to investigate implementing a voting system either within the coin or parallel to it.

After reading the related articles I think Hullcoin isn't fully implemented at this time. It looks like a pilot, where the basic infrastructure is there but only very limited services are available. Anyway it's a good experiment and the next logical step after Bristol Pound and similar things. According to my readings Ven has some kind of voting procedure but I have no idea if that's part of the system or a parallel thing on Hubculture.
legendary
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You can't (at this moment). As I seen you have to go to Hull, then start doing some voluntary work and you will get some.
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where can we buy hullcoin
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This should be an interesting experiment.

Governments and their own crypto. lol

Who processes transactions? Are the miners centralized in a government warehouse? Cheesy
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I am all for reintroducing local currencies. Having wealth cycle around a community is a lot better for that community than having that wealth leave. The concept is great, implementation could have been done better though. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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There is some contradictory info in the media reports.  Looks like the best place for official news is on their twitter or facebook page - https://twitter.com/HullCoin
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hey i am from hull .... first i have heard of it lol  Cheesy Cheesy
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
-the part that makes me laugh is that they are the sole miners of their hull coin.. there is no competition/different pools mining hull coin..

and as such they get 100% of every block. yet they say they wish to get a KNC miner.....
,.,,,,,,,,

dont they realise adding miners is only needed if there is competition.. of they keep the mining process closed so no one else mines it. then there is not any need to out compete THEMSELVES.

the mind boggles
Heh, a single CPU would do the same thing.
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I was thinking of putting up some Little Britain vids.
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Read my comment, there are not launching their own coin but using an existing one rebranded Cheesy

ouch.. if that is true which i hope not. then people that already have millions of that coin can go to hull and withdraw millions of pounds..

stpid idea it would be to use a coin that is minable for anyone and premined by different people..

imagine it. day 1 a customer buys £10 of hull coin. putting £10 into the economy. day two.. someone cash's out 500k of coin mined before the software branding. now hull is £499,990 in debt.

the only way for hull to succeed starting a new economy for swapping for Pound coins. is a closed blockchain and sole supply..

I'm pretty sure that is exactly what they have planned.
legendary
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Read my comment, there are not launching their own coin but using an existing one rebranded Cheesy

ouch.. if that is true which i hope not. then people that already have millions of that coin can go to hull and withdraw millions of pounds..

stpid idea it would be to use a coin that is minable for anyone and premined by different people..

imagine it. day 1 a customer buys £10 of hull coin. putting £10 into the economy. day two.. someone cash's out 500k of coin mined before the software branding. now hull is £499,990 in debt.

the only way for hull to succeed starting a new economy for swapping for Pound coins. is a closed blockchain and sole supply..
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