Topic: HZ/NXT: assetparser.py >40 columns per asset | shareholders.py inner circle PM - page 3. (Read 7590 times)

>  actually any version which can be used or at least tested so far
Yes, of course, 'assetparser.py' was already used, and successfully
- but only by myself, in my preparation phase of the asset launch.

VERY useful information, to understand better the situation I am placing myself in.
Some of the output you see in the image of that table. But that is only a teaser. There is much more.

Since then I had been too busy with too many other things to continue with it. Some days since the launch have been 15 hours work days.
Myself, I would love to continue with 'assetparser.py' because I have programming ideas, and a half finished report that I want to publish soon.


However, the current main concern now is to make 'Altfolio' used by as many people as possible, so word-of-mouth starts rolling;
and to sell 'AAssetHZ', to give funds to do so, and let me survive until then.

So I have had no time for assetparser in the past 10 days. Sadly. but I hope soon!

> actually any version which can be used
I will not simply publish assetparser.py unless there is monetization (better for shareholders than giving it away for free).

For a good price, I can already sell you the private use of my Python code.
For more money, for public use. For less money, the 108x28 cells output table.

> When do you think it will be available?
How much would you pay for it?


And the written report? How to sell an analysis text? Any ideas?

But most of all: Stay tuned, please.
I really appreciate your interest, Hubus, and I ask for your patience.

I only put assetparser on ice for 10 days, crazy 10 days.
I haven't deserted it

Is there actually any version which can be used or at least tested so far? You talk a lot about the software, but it's not there. When do you think it will be available?

Answered in the AltFolio software thread.

If you can get the asset price from servers like http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/ , then maybe it's possible to integrate assets also into your altsheets portfolio sheet? Then it would offer a nice overwiev over assets and coins. Would be cool   .

P.S.: I just saw that the assets seem to have an abbreviation/symbol like the coins (e.g. the asset Supernet has the symbol "UNITY"). So is it just possible to fill in the symbol in your sheet and then the asset will be treated like coin in the spreadheet? Then my request would be unnecessary. Just fill in the letters and that would be it.

Please let me promote my poll here:

"Why would I buy an asset?"

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-would-i-buy-an-asset-poll-discussion-and-help-1008110

I am interested in your opinion...

Important addendum:

This is automatically generated data,
with no human intervention, censoring, etc.

What is on the blockchain, got reported.

Do not perceive as recommendations to buy or to sell, etc.
- Always do your own research before you buy anything.

!

That being said, I got this message from

Cyrano De Muphuc Ribbentrop


So now I want to find a way to accomodate.

Open for ideas.

Thanks liliwang!


You can now buy AAssetHZ - buy them while they are still cheap ;-)

mebbe u can have ipo?

I see. I need to explain this better.
Perhaps I need to make a diagram how all these things connect with each other?

BTW: Also check out my "GiveBack-license v02" --> http://altsheets.ddns.net/give


Yes, it is part of it. So the profits from it will partly shared as dividends to AAssetHZ holders !

The question now is - How to generate those profits? Both
* the 107x27 cells and 488x28 cells big tables (of the current snapshot of HZ and Nxt) can be paid for by someone who really wants to know well what is going on in the HZ & Nxt asset markets. And
* the assetparser.py code can be paid for, either for personal use (cheaper), or public use (more expensive), or exclusive use (let's discuss a deal).
* my study (already 6 pages) in which I describe my methods, and findings - can be paid for.


What I mean is explainable
by what I do not want to do:
If I now released the whole study and spreadsheet-tables and sourcecode for free ...

• then the reader may be happy to learn more about HZ asset markets, and the HZ platform might even be boosted, because more assets are bought, other asset owners benefit because their asset gets exposure, etc ...
• but if no one sends any donations afterwards - which is what often happened to me - ...
• ... then neither I am getting anything for my work,
• nor my investors will get dividends.

So that's why:

Let us think how to monetize this. Any idea is welcome.

Isn't that part of your altsheets/altfolio software family asset? Or did you just mean the price of the particular software (so it's not one package which includes all?)?

BTC">solved: HZ --> BTC --> USD

A future version of assetparser.py will be able to have proper fiat conversion for each trade.

Yiehah!

History:

• BCT HZ posting
• facebook HZ posting  <- this got answered!
• documentation of results (#1222) plus (#1223)

• thank you to CMC

 

Yes, sites like that are helping Nxt and Nxt users a lot,
let's hope that something similar is built for HZ soonish!



Actually, a static/snapshot overview of existing assets,
and over 20 observables to compare them well ...
... I am targetting in my assetparser.py project.

It is a script which eats all it can find (actually, which I teach it to digest)
about assets in the HZ/Nxt API, and mangles it into descriptive statistics,
to be analyzed in a 107x27 cells big (for HZ) or 488x28 cells big (for Nxt)
spreadsheet.

I have already written 6 pages report about my methods and findings,
and will publish that soonish. Still, I don't know how to monetize it
- so I am reluctant to just release it for free. Any idea is welcome.

It's another way of looking at what is there, and
can perhaps also be used to choose what to invest in.

Any questions, I am happy to answer.


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crosspost from "newbies how to buy HZ assets" thread

That good idea sounds very much like a good candidate for the "trusted assets" section on the main site.

assetparser.py however -at this stage of its evolution-
will stay a blockchain API data eating machinery,
with no "soft data" from users entering.
What is on the blockchain, and confirmed, has an objectivity to it
that no "user reporting about their asset" will ever be beat
;-)

I think, assets should simply use the subtype 6 form of dividends payments, and all is cool, then a future version of assetparser.py will be spotting them. For Nxt it is possible, for HZ still future music. I am actually wondering what happens, if someone created a subtype 6 coloured coins transaction, and tries to input that into the current HZ3.8 - is that possible at all, or would it get refused, could it be found on the blockchain afterwards?  But anyways: from what I hear, the next major upgrade of the HZ base code is not too far away - and then it is solved, for future dividends, anyways.

Thanks for your ideas! More more more ;-)


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moved from my "how to buy assets on horizon - the complete process, explained for newbies" thread to here.

That is a VERY good question, and I would love to integrate that into my assetparser.py
when I find the time (sponsoring/monetization ideas would accelerate it).

If dividend payments can be spotted on the blockchain API, it should be possible to somehow implement it.

My first hope that dividends are a specific type/subtype message,
was just disappointed - for HZ i.e. Nxt 1.2.9 = nope (link to localwallet),
but YIEHAH:
In Nxt 1.4.16, there is a type/subtype (type: 2 = "Colored coins" , subtypes: 6 = "Dividend payment" - link to Nxt-localwallet)

So this is how I understand it:

• old dividends won't be able to be found
  (because subtypes: 6 was introduced only recently)
• newer dividends which still use (type: 0  = "Ordinary payment")- payments ... won't be able to be found
• newer dividends which use (type: 2, subtype: 6) should actually be identifiable.

Very good idea / inspiration. Thanks Hubus!
Unanswered now, but possibly answerable in the future!

 


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crosspost from my "how to buy assets on horizon - the complete process, explained for newbies" thread. So that it won't get forgotten to be implemented one day 

https://twitter.com/altsheets/status/581270222348398592

The last mystery of my nerd adventure trek
into the belly of the HZ blockchain API ...

EXTRACTS ONLY, READ THE FULL STORY HERE(question) AND HERE(answer).


Solved!

... The background story is easy to tell:
I wrote an assetparser.py to prepare my own assetlaunch
- by studying at the other assets.
Analyzing the output, I stumbled over a strange data artifact:
The "real marketcap" (definition of that new observable is in my soon-to-be-published study)
... of one of the HZ assets ... became zero!

How is that possible, as the asset had already been traded?  
So I dug deeper, and asked around in many places. nxtforum, here, slack.

On the basis of the easily available data, there was no sufficient explanation: ...

However, the necessary data for checking my suspicion was a bit tricky to get, because ...
So tonight I created this Workaround for getAssetTransfers&asset= ...

... So the final picture is this now:

So:  The issuer has  [ CLICK HERE TO READ THE WHOLE STORY ]
Who would have thought that?

 

Sliced tables,
inspected data,
made tough decisions,
created statistics,
wrote 6 pages (!) of essay. Wow ...

... what a day!

 


HZ assets overview
An early study of the -still young- HoriZon asset market.

Part 1: Introduction
Part 2: Selection process
Part 3: Statistics.
Part 4: Conclusions.

Soon. Very soon.


By the way, there is some preliminary comparative statistics of the different asset platforms (XCP, MSC, bitshares ...) in my other thread:
With data from CAC cryptoassetcharts.info and from CMC coinmarketcap.com. Then I analyzed descriptions and numeric properties of HZ assets.


And here, in this assetparser.py thread ... soon there will be more analysis. Stay tuned.

when's liftoff?