Topic: I am begining on a short term investment. (Read 805 times)

Losses and profits, of course, are the results that we will definitely get in investing and indeed there are some people who choose to survive in the long term or the long term and this in my opinion will depend a lot on the funds and knowledge they have and of course everyone who invests expects profits from that and if you choose to survive in the long term in altcoins, of course you have to choose the type of altcoin that It does have the potential to give us the benefit of that, but it also has a big risk and I think if we choose to survive in the long term, we choose Bitcoin which has been proven to be able to benefit anyone who holds it in the long term.

For me if you want to invest in Bitcoin we have two things that is involved in it it is neither you make profit or you lose for the investment so any good investor likely to go into a long time investment instead of a short-term investment because there is every probability that within the time of long-term investment your currency you will invested on neither altcoin or Bitcoin can get appreciate in value if it has stayed long and they also want to make a bitcoin to increase in value during a long-term investment it is because of the massive abortion of it in that particular time that will make a Bitcoin to have another value instead of the value you purchase some before you place for investment

Actually all strategies are not wrong, everything is good. Because the goal of investing is to seek profit. It's just that many suggest that long -term investment does not mean that short -term invertation is not good. Because not all of them understand short -term investment, so many people recommend investing for the long term, especially if they are still beginners who do not understand graphics and market dynamics. Then the long term is safer than the short term.

But if you are more profitable when investing in short term is good for your strategy. Needs to be maintained to be consistent. In essence, investment in Bitcoin does not have to hear other people's advice, everything returns to yourself in mastering and understanding your own startgi so that you can benefit. The key, investing in short -term or long -term goals is profit.

If the case is like that, in my opinion there is no problem selling investment assets, it is better for us to prioritize what conditions or disasters occur in our lives and we can reinvest if our financial conditions are stable. Yes, even though we have managed or planned well our finances or investments or anything else. Are we able to fight the fate that God has ordained for us, whether it be illness, disaster or something else. Of course, if this happens, you can be sure that the investment will have an impact.

Of course that is actually what he needs to understand because short term may not actually give him the kind of profit he may desire, however one of the challenges of short term investment is that because of the price fluctuations he may not be on profits when he would want to sell it for instance he invested when Bitcoin price was $70k and instead of going up it started moving down and has been consolidating within those areas for sometime now so if the person decides to sell now there will not be any profit, instead is lose, so perhaps one of the things he should also need to consider in short term investment is patient because Bitcoin price may not always move towards the direction he will always expect so if it does he would have to wait till he is on profits before thinking about selling.

From his statement, it looks like his still having a bit of doubt and would love to test run the credibility on short term before attempting on longer term investment. Our reasons for investing in Bitcoin is for the profits and if he is comfortable with the little profits his going to get during this short period of time then it should be a go for him and usually this short term investment usually requires a better buying power compared to long term. He should begin yet with investing on the short term as he has already decided but perhaps within the line he might change his mind whereas he now understands the system better.

The only person that can decide what to do with your money and that knows exactly what is going on your life is yourself, so if you think that right now it is not the right time to become an investor then you are right.

Just be careful, as long term holding is often the most recommended option because it is the safest strategy you can employ, while becoming a trader is many times more risky with a high failure rate, but if you think that is the correct path for you to take then do it, just make sure you know what you are getting into.

Let me say you sounded smarter than most people I've read their post on this kind of discussion, and despite just starting in the crypto world, it's highly possible you've had some experience with investments to make you know these and face the reality. What struck me most and which I had iterated many times on the forum is the fact that it's money/profits we are after and not something else. But people here mostly take things personally, which has not been yielding lately like before. No doubt, Bitcoin has had a very good start, but it may not continue like this anymore, especially when it is now acting maturely like other assets in the financial market, and has been better controlled by institutional management unlike before.

This calls for a restructure of mind and view about it and not particularly about holding for too long again. There is nothing wrong in holding it though but for those retail investors who want to maximize their earnings, I don't think it is a smart idea to do so for now judging by its recent reality. It's time to admit that past glory can't determine future outcomes, change is what is most inevitable in this world. So, if it is the short-term investment that suits you, my friend, please go for it, after all, it is the best practice to earn with the recent behaviour of Bitcoin.

There's actually no problem if you decide to invest for short term or long term as long as you only invest a small amount, and I think even without a continuous inflow of income, you will still be capable to invest using your spare money. Just know that bitcoin cannot guarantee short term profits but more on long term investment. So if you decide for short term, always use those money that you are comfortable of losing, so that if ever you lose, it won't create trouble on your finances.

A well-planned short-term investment can be successful if greed is not included in the process. It is a choice to invest for the short term or long term. I don't know why we generally make it seem that short-term investment is dangerous. Every investment has risk buddy whether short or long but the reason why people prefer long-term investment to short-term investment when it comes to Bitcoin is because in long purposes Bitcoin has been doing perfectly well proven by records. Aside Bitcoin investment there are investment that one needs to go short term because in those investments or asset investing long term can be more risky. Investment in general is risk which is why every investor needs to find a way to reduce the amount of risk in their investment whether they go in short or long it is a personal preference as long as the risk has been reduced to give them profit.

It all depends on a person's understanding of the market and its movements. Someone who knows the market very well needs a lot of experience because you can't know much without experience, if one doesn't have experience, they will need to gather a lot of knowledge so that they know and understand everything that has happened or is happening in the market right now. Only then one can be able to make successful short-term investments or trades.

If a person knows that they aren't good enough with the market or have not enough knowledge about it, they shouldn't risk their money by going for short-term trades because they will probably miss the best buying and selling spots and that will make them either lose money or get no profit at all.

i just don't get it when you say that investing in long term in bitcoin is more profitable than short term, but in the end you still choose to do short term trading to get profit. i understand that each investor has their own approach to be able to get profit from investing in bitcoin, but when you already understand that long term investment is more profitable and you still invest in short term, that means you are just playing around with your money in the bitcoin market, yeah that's not wrong since it's your money, but i just find your mindset a little strange. but whatever it is, just good luck.

It is a free choice, as long as you can live with it then there is nothing wrong with your choice regarding short-term investments. But I think, it seems like short-term investing is all about trading because after all, you will make quick purchases and sales or price movements occur. Therefore,it can be assumed that at least you are looking for quick profits and you will also make another round when you have made a profit. It's different if you invest long term,because you won't care about price movements that occur in a short time. Because,  if you make a long-term investment then obviously, you don't need quick profits, so differences like this are very significant. But yes, in essence there is nothing wrong with these two things, because the most important thing is that you can do it in a good way and not be depressed when prices continue to fall.

if you want to do short term investing for bitcoin you should come up with a detailed plan because you cannot just leave your investment unlike if you invest for the long term, there is less thinking you need to do when it comes to investing

buy your bitcoin leave it alone and come back when it is time to take it out simple as that

confidence is everything in investing there should be no one else to blame but yourself when you need to make a decision it is best if you can decide on your own since you will be under extreme pressure

If the short term investment will favour you as you plan then no problem but don't  come back and cry to the forum that you lost your coins and bitcoin is risky. And yes bitcoin is risky and all depends on the plan, goals of your investment.
And if you are investing for short term then you have to calculate how it will be. Because as for now that the price is declining daily nit is not advisable to invest in short term because you will lose very well but if your plans are good then go ahead.

OP, what currency have you invested in? First of all I would advise you not to invest in altcoins as a newbie. Bitcoin is the most popular and trusted currency among cryptocurrencies. If you want to invest in Bitcoin you have to decide to hold for the long term. If you invest in Bitcoin for short term then you may face loss instead of profit. Investing in short term becomes risky. So try to hold the investment for long term. If you can hold Bitcoin for a long time then you can definitely earn a lot of profit. You can still decide whether to hold the investment for the long term or hold it for the short term. Since you will hold the investment for short term, don't be too greedy and sell bitcoins only if there is a small profit. Many speculate that Bulran could start in 2025. So hope you can make quite a bit of profit in 2025.

Whatever works for you pal. Instant gratification isn't that all for me but it's gratification nonetheless and you're still looking at a couple hundred dollars at best, all without the risk of losing it on a coin that you held for long term. However, if you really wanna get the big bucks in this industry, holding for the long term is where it's going to be at and you just can't change that. These shitcoins that you invest a couple hundred dollars then dip when you already gain substantial profit are good for the money, but what they don't have is the security and the longevity of a trusted coin like bitcoin per se, making these long-term cryptos a no-brainer most of the time even in beginners who have jack shit knowledge about crypto.

Still do your research, find which investing style works best for you, and always learn more, stagnation is the ultimate death in this industry enterprise and investor wise, if you stagnate and keep the same thing going for the longest time, you're bound to lose a lot of money.

Bitcoin is the right currency you should choose because it can give you more profit than you expect. It is recommended to increase buying volume during bearish season and take care of holding during bullish season in order to create long term Bitcoin stack.

Exactly. Short term or long term investments are both profitable as long as you are investing on the right coins, not on the fake ones. But with short term investing, you need to be more alert and keen observant on the market so you can timing when’s the perfect time to sell. Otherwise, you will end up losing your capital when you sell at its wrong timing.

The reason why majority chose the less risky one, holding their coins for long term, and just by sitting in their own home while waiting for the price to move upward and skyrocket, profiting won’t be so hard and risky for them.

OP, how will you succeed in bitcoin investment if you don't learn how to be patient and invest for a long term. There is a popular saying that goes like this "patience is the key to every crypto investor".

I take it as, in crypto, If you can't be patient, you will miss so many good opportunity of becoming millionaires in crypto. So many of the early investors who were impatient and have the same mindset of yours not to hodl their bitcoin for long. Ain't them regretting their action today of the wrong move they took on selling their bitcoin early than being patient to hodl it for long term.

However, you can choose to be like them if you want to, and we will still be here when you would want to share how you miss the opportunity of becoming rich through bitcoin investment

They sold early and today many of them are regretting, why didn't they hodl bitcoin for long than selling their bitcoin holdings for small profits.

You have said it all. Depending on stream of income is obviously risky if we want to get something decent from crypto trading

The truth is that, be it long term or short term, what matters is that we are making profits and I can also relate with what op is saying because most times, with the hype on long term holding, it seems those who are holding for short term or even day trading are absolutely on the wrong track and these whole idealogy is absolutely wrong as no matter what means and strategies one chooses to employ in the industry, what actually matters is that, we’re making profits and staying profitable in the market.

Holding for long terms has proven over time to be in one of the safest and less risky way to make profits in the industry but frankly, to hold for long term, requires a lot of patience, dedication and determination to achieve this whole especially in a world with unending problems.

I also think to hold for long term, one ought to have other sources of income aside bitcoin, else holding for long terms might be very difficult for the holder if not impossible.

Choose your strategy and stick to it as long as you’re making profits and staying profitable in it.

Once you make a significant profits from your Bitcoin holding you can take profits and stop being greedy because at some point you need to build between the gap of satisfaction and investing,  because what you can afford for a long term can also be achieved within short term also because the level of your profitability depends on your market analysis.

One can hold Bitcoin for a long term and still not make good profits, amd another ca n buy in a short term position and still make a good profits.

It's not necessary to hold Bitcoin long-term. To my mind, the best approach is to focus on catching the best moments instead of holding them like a gold stone. I can tell you my personal experience. I held Bitcoins from the 2017 year till the 2020 year. Then, when the price started rising and reached a certain high level, I decided to sell my coins. Then I saw the opportunity that buying and holding of BNB would be the best bet for a high ROI, which I did. I sold and bought BNB multiple times but sold them finally when the price reached 600 USD. Then I thought that the market would crash because the price was significantly pumped up and I risked and opened a short position on futures against BNB at 600 USD. At first, I was frightened because BNB went up to 700 USD but then gladly, soon there was a huge crash because China banned Bitcoin mining and at the same time, Elon Musk made a negative announcement about Bitcoin. So, my short position gave me a great profit but soon I closed it and then invested in Matic because there was a big opportunity, this coin was rising despite the fact that Bitcoin and altcoins were falling.
Long story short, this is not the right path and is full of extreme moments, my head was exploding with excessive thoughts during those times. That's why I prefer long-term, just sit, relax and wait.

That's right, it's not that one of the investment options is more profitable and one is less, it all depends on several factors such as your buying and selling times, your capital, market understanding, and a bunch of other things.

Those who have been in the market for quite some time and understand it very well wouldn't have any problem with short-term investments or trading because they would know when is the right time to buy and when it is to sell. On the other hand, those with less experience and understanding would simply buy and hold for long term because that doesn't need a lot of speculation and market understanding.

Someone who has knowledge, experience, and money, can do both without a problem.

And no one is saying OP is wrong in choosing short-term investments, but we need to admit that long-term investments bring more benefits. We have heard many stories about people becoming rich through bitcoin but most of them are long term investors, there are no stories about people becoming rich or making huge profits by investing short-term investment in bitcoin.
Or like in recent days, bitcoin's fluctuations have a wide range and from statistics we can see that hundreds of millions of dollars are liquidated every time bitcoin fluctuates.

I also know many traders but I don't see anyone making profits in recent days. Of course, long-term investors cannot make profits with the current market situation either, but at least they don't lose money and their money is still intact. Short-term investing sounds attractive because we can make money immediately, but things don't work like that, short-term investing is like a trap for the market to take our money faster.

It is true that choosing to survive in the long term in investing in Bitcoin is certainly very good, but to be able to survive in the long term of course we must first be prepared in terms of the capital we invest because it is very unlikely that we will be able to invest in the long term if we do not have be careless in terms of capital because it could be that when the investment is underway, we will need these funds and we don't have other funds so we have to take what we have invested, regardless of the circumstances and if the price is above when we buy it, of course it won't be a problem. However, if the price is below us, of course we will experience a loss on the investment we are carrying out and for some people who decide to invest in the short term, of course they must always be able to analyze market conditions well so they can know when is the right time to buy. and also sell them to be able to gain profits from the investments they make.

That will be no problem if you decides to use short term investment for Bitcoin because that will depends on your plan for the Bitcoin investment. If you feels you can not holds Bitcoin for a long term, you can use short and middle term investment so when the price increase, you can sell your Bitcoin and make a profit. But you should try to holds some amount of Bitcoin for a long term, so you can see how big your profit.

Every investor should knows their plan so they can holds their investment until the time comes. You needs to determine how long of Bitcoin investment you can do so you can sell your Bitcoin at the right time. You just needs to believe in yourself with your analysis so you can runs your investment properly.

Other people can suggest you but the decision will be yours. You needs to knows what is the best for you so that's why you should learn more about Bitcoin investment. We makes a profit from Bitcoin investment with many ways.

You are right, comparing yourself to others is one of the reasons why some people fail in some of what they are doing to succeed, don’t compare yourself with others in times of investing or anything’s, we invest to increase the money that we have and we invest to make a profit, is not important for you to invest to hold your bitcoin for a long period, you can invest and sell your coins at any time but just make sure that you make a profit from your investment or you don’t lose when you want to sell your coins because investing without no profit and you still lose some money when selling your coins is not a good investment, it means you just invest to lose money.

Not everyone can hold Bitcoin for a long period and that is why everyone has access to his wallet you are free to sell your tokens at any time you want but make sure you sell at the time when you will earn a profit because selling your coins without having any profit is like you just waste your time to invest and you won’t like it anymore because you will be thinking the last time you invest you don’t have any profit and you will feel bad that even if you have someone that wants to invest you will not advise him to invest in bitcoin.

I also invest in altcoins, but in my opinion, newbies invest in altcoins, it only shows that they want to gamble and not invest, so giving advice is useless.
Altcoins are speculation, or to put it bluntly, investing in altcoins is gambling and there are no rules or formulas by which we can guarantee that they can last until we make a profit.

Your advice is quite useful for those who want to invest in altcoins. But we need to remember that even if an altcoin has all those elements, there is no guarantee that it won't die before we reap the profits. Luna's lesson is still there, it entered the top 10 altcoins but collapsed and wiped out more than 60 billion in capitalization in just 2 weeks.

Going for short term or long term investment in bitcoin is a matter of choice. You can go for the one that you feel more comfortable with and more suiting to you that you can hold on to. Short term investment are making people rich as well as the long term investment. The risks involved in them both differs and that is what has distinguished them from one another. If you’ve calculated the risk and can take on short term investment which we all know is more risky, then go on with your investment in that manner. It all have to do with what you’re afford to sacrifice and put into the investment until it reaches the time to take your profit out from it. All those are candid advice given to go for long term investment because of the little risk involved in it, but if you want to take on the short term investment with the plenty risk in it, then no one will stop you because it’s your money and you’ve made up your mind to face the outcome of it.

Its not for everyone, especially those who cant stomach a little risk. The day traders arent the true winners here, though. They see the big picture. They are aware that there are other aspects of Bitcoin than simply getting quick money.

Bitcoin is about trust. Its about removing the middlemen and giving the people control once more. People, its a revolution; you can either join it or get left behind. Long-term ownership of Bitcoin goes beyond simple asset investment. Your investment is in yourself. You are funding a future in which the system functions for you rather than against you.

This is no quick-rich scheme. This is about development of the individual. Its about seizing charge of your financial future. It has to do with trusting something greater than yourself. Thus ignore the noise. Think long term. It will, I promise, turn out to be the best investment you have ever made.

You know the answer to your question is OP. What do you want to know and convey to the forum community here on this platform? Yes, it is true that we are all here to make a profit, and most of them believe that they can make a profit in Bitcoin, while others believe that they can make more profit in other top altcoins.

That means it depends on the beliefs and research done by the individual who is here in the crypto industry field. Just don't imitate others who just ride on what others say or just believe the promises they hear about a cryptocurrency asset.

Basically everyone invests for profit whether short or long term but the long term results of investing in Bitcoin are relatively good. You can expect 2x or 3x your profit with long term investment here long term means 4-10 years but you may need to hold longer. However, it may take less time to get your desired profit. I myself prefer to be in a long-term approach to just accumulating bitcoins which is a simultaneous holding.

Well, that's your thinking, and everyone has different thoughts when it comes to investing. Whether it is a short-term or long-term investment, as long as you feel that it is successful in making you a profit, then it is the right thing for your investment. However, people who hold the opinion that long-term bitcoin investment is best also have their own reasons. Personally, I am a long-term investor, but it all comes back to the prevailing circumstances and existing information.

Long-term investment may be true for bitcoin, but if they start exploring the alts market, they should do their homework of learning this market because most of them can be short-lived. This is also the reason why, newbies are being advised to learn the bitcoin market first, because we can say, btc won't disappear overnight. Unlike with alts, they have the tendency to exit the market without prior warning.

There are several factors that you need to consider before jumping in any alt market -
> actual developments of the project
> sincerity of the dev team to accomplish their objectives, how they are implementing their milestones
> communication with their stakeholders, followers, subscribers
> significance of their services, without solid use case - hard to sustain their presence in this market

Investing in long term does not mean whether you are beginner or not but your financial capability is the one will determine investment goal. And if you have an inflow income income then you can invest foe a long term and not for the short. Though as the market is in the correctional stage now, you can invest in the short term. And the best time to buy was the time when bitcoin is at the $64k.

And now is the best time. In bitcoin investment you also follow your mindset to invest because the price is unpredictable.

Nobody is saying that short term investment cannot be profitable for you but the chances of making that huge sum of money you’re anticipating to get when you put your money into bitcoin can only be realized if you keep them for a long term. The market is volatile and moves to any direction it wishes at anytime, but it is certain that after some certain period of time, a time will come that it will be on the upward trajectory that will be beneficial for all. That period doesn’t last long and it’s the bull period.

Between the bear season and bull season, a lot of changes happen when bitcoin can go up or come down within a short period, those are the times some short time investors get their profits from the investment and due to the high risk of volatility and been in the bearish period, that is why it has been advise to stick to long term investment rather than the short time the will make your investment worthless.

Do you know why most people give long-term investment advice to others, especially newbies like you? That's because long-term investing only requires basic knowledge, without too much pressure, less risk, and more guaranteed profits. Meanwhile, short-term investing requires more knowledge, more pressure, and you take more risks. As a newbie, do you think you have enough knowledge and experience about this market? If you are confident about yourself, you can try with the strategy of your choice because it is your money.

Additionally, newbies often ignore other people's advice and just follow what they think is right. So for newbies, I think it's best to let them experience the market for themselves, the market will teach them what is the best method of making money in the market.

I like how you’re being honest with your opinion but, the problem here is you can actually get short term profit when dealing with other cryptocurrencies not bitcoin. We can all agree some coins are not meant for long term holding so this is where you always need to target the market and sell immediately you notice an increase. If you should include bitcoin now I guess you might get something different in most cases when dealing with market or in terms of buying back and meeting up with previous price prediction etc, bitcoin investment is different from my understanding but if you insist best wishes.

If in the process of carrying out an investment you suddenly decide to withdraw your funds again for your personal needs, of course there is nothing wrong with that, but when you decide to hold Bitcoin again, it would be better for you to have a good plan first so that it can survive in the long term. because if we don't have good preparation it will certainly be very difficult to survive in the long term, if we still sell at the price we bought it of course this won't be a problem and if when we need funds and market conditions are declining of course this will be very harm us.

If you look at the price chart of Bitcoin, it's very clear that, at least so far, it has a strong upward long-term trend. It rises, then it loses over a half of its value, but then it eventually recovers and rises even higher. At the same time, it's worth noting that while its marketcap is growing significantly and the same goes for the price, the multiplier seems to be getting much smaller. For instance, between 2013 and 2017, BTC grew from $1k to $20k, so it was 20x growth. But between 2017 and 2021, it grew from $20k to $67k, which is a little over 3x growth. Then from 2021 to 2024 it grew from $67k to $73k, which is very mild (but perhaps that's because the bull market hasn't hit properly yet). You need to account for that when investing.
As for short-term holding, it can go very well but also very poorly because Bitcoin tends to have long bear markets, lasting for several years.

Yup, that's the end game, the satisfaction that you'll get from your profits is what everyone's goal to have.

Not to mention those that have set Bitcoin as their main investment for a long term holding and not just that they've been trapped and stuck. But I believe that most of the long term holders now are in great profit.

But we just don't want to sell yet, I won't sell yet but we're on it for a longer term.

He has already decided to do that and there is nothing wrong with it. He doesn't feel like going with most of us who are long-term holders and that's his decision.

It might or might not change anymore and that's totally fine.

The real essence of long term investment is maximizing profits with proper analysis; being that the market has a certain structure that controls the whole influx and price action, it's easier to make much more profits during specific times/periods - The bull run/ bear market.

How do you make profit with short term investment? Let's start with the period range to which you call a short-term; it all goes down to being very attentive to know when to sell on profit.
Also, you could decide to trade on a daily - Scalping is actually profitable, but needs quite alot of concentration and focus.. also, your analysis needs to be on point. Eitherways, you could still make profits but it's basically about what you want

There are stages to things so no matter what it is when you are a beginner you must learn to follow through the stages and this is also applicable to Bitcoin investment. When investing in bitcoin it is always advisable that beginners should try to play it safe first until when they have experience enough to try out complex strategies. Long term investment is the safest investment for beginners because it carries less risk and there is no much work to be done the investor after buying the bitcoin abut in short term investment one needs to be knowledgeable about the market movement and know the right time to buy and sell. This will be more easier for a pro and not a beginner so to reduce the risk of losing money beginners should always play safe and not try to be smart.


Not just your financial situation but also your preference. The one you are most comfortable with should be your decision.

Two years ago, I decided to hold my bitcoins. But you know what happened? I sold them all to start my shop. Now, I am considering setting aside part of my income for a second time to invest in Bitcoin. The decision to make a short-term or long-term investment depends on your financial situation.

I don't think the point has ever been that short term speculators are doing the wrong thing, people do what they want to do with their money, nobody tells them what to do. The point is that it is difficult to predict BTC in the short term, so the risk is higher in the short term, especially if you need the money you invested quickly, you may be forced to sell when you are at a loss.

Each to their own, buy and sell when you want to, but the right thing to do is to buy BTC with money you don't need anytime soon, so you'll be able to store it for a long time and not be forced to sell prematurely.

Short term Bitcoin investments isn’t something for beginners, if isn’t what a beginner can do and master it perfectly.  That’s because, the market is a highly volatile one and one who is into short term holdings should have a grounded knowledge of market movements which beginners lack so very much, even most of the users with years of experience still find it difficulty catching up with the market.
As a beginner, trying to invest on a short term might feel safe or sound like a good idea but in the real sense, it puts you out thrrr on the charts every time, always anxious and hoping it doesn’t go bad, every FUD that is been tossed around is sure to have effects on you and you have more chances of responding badly. Most times, getting out on a loss.

Whether you are going to be a short term trader or long term trader, the amount of Bitcoin you hold determine how much Bitcoin your are going to make in short term or long term. For example, you have 1 Bitcoin which is worth $65k, let's say you bought when Bitcoin ETF was approved around April when it was trading at $40k and you sold when we hit the previous all time, you would have made $20k but imagine that your capital is $2k, and you want to hold for short term, you wouldn't be able to make anything.

My advice is that whether you are holding for long term or short term, make sure you have enough capital to start with something reasonable, imagine how it's going to look like after holding $1000 for long term, it seems that investment will have to take another 5 years to be able to make 2 times of that original value and I see that as a waste of time and energy.

Hodling is a goal and it is not something that is be done for doing sake. As for those that understand bitcoin very well and know what they want i don't think hodling Bitcoin is going to be a difficult task. When people tends to avoid longterm hodling it is just that they are going for short term because they need quick profit. In bitcoin if truly wants to get better profit hoding us just the way, if short term was a way of making quick profit while investing bitcoin I think investors won't be hodling Bitcoin.  I think op is not really informed about the outcome of short-term investment, this can make one to expect profit so quick because the mind is already focusing on short-term. I will advice op before making any plan it will be better for a research to be done to get a proper understanding of bitcoin investment.

As a beginner there's no harm in holding Bitcoin though , the Reason why most time newbies are literally advise to go into long-term holding is because is more easier to minimise your losesse when you are holding than when you are trading with your Bitcoin for short-term profits (short-term investments) , as long is bitcoin the chances of you selling in loss on long-term holding is low compared to short-term, but still you can still do what is beat for you but I still advice you have some portion of Bitcoin that you are holding for long-term while you trade , expecially at this time around every one is expecting Bitcoin to undergo a new breakthrough. So aslong is bitcoin you are holding you will definitely be in a safer side though there's no guarantees but base on Bitcoin performance in the past years , Bitcoin still has the potential to do more in the nearest future.

As long as you can take advantage of the conditions there is no such thing as a mistake, short term or long term depends on your ability to make profit. But if you use short term to make profit then it will be comparable to the capital issued and if your capital is small then the profit is also small. If you have good trading skills then short term can make profit will speculation will be much greater when not having the right knowledge.

The decision to run short term is your choice and you should also understand the risks. I hope it works so you can make a much larger portion of trade every time you get profit in the short term. Do your best to make profit and don't forget to learn the impact of the resulting risk so you have the right decision.

Bitcoin is most suited to hodl on the long term to guarantee you ROI, if you research from the time of it's creation till now you'll understand that it has proven to be a store of value. It's an asset that has continued to increase in price since it's creation, so there's no question about it not being profitable. It's true that Bitcoin is volatile, that is the more reason why it's best to hodl it on the long term because it's history has proven that it's price will continue to increase and reach new ATH price in every bull run.

You can trade cryptocurrency on the short term and make profit or lose, also you need to understand it's fundamental and technical analysis to minimize loses because trading is hard. There are many altcoins that you can hodl on the short term to make profit but you have to DYOR to avoid scams projects.

Yes, to get optimal results of course, short-term investments are not suitable in my personal opinion. In this case, we don't choose coins that move fast, but we also have to look at the momentum during a decline, that's where we can get a discount price there and continue to accumulate it. Trusting an influencer who promotes any coin, in my opinion it is reckless to trust them completely. It is better for us to choose assets ourselves that we believe in from our analysis rather than following influencers.

When it comes into an investment you must need to create your plan like the other projects they have their own roadmaps so people not felt lost what are the current state or phase they are in. So in trading and investment the same thing until when you will hold and what are your plans with that holds so you can easily identify your next move. People easily decieve and confuse with the statement of other people make your own don't let other people makes decide what you will do to your asset at the end of the day it's your action the only have just a statement.

We all know that the cryptocurrency market is extremely volatile and virtually unpredictable in the short term, so most people prefer long-term investing because it minimizes risk. But there are also some people who like to take risks and are confident in their ability to analyze the market, so they will take advantage of short-term fluctuations to make profits during the day. There's nothing wrong or too bad.

It is true that it is not easy to make profits or be successful in trading but that does not mean that no one can do it, there are still a few people who have done it. So just because I can't do it doesn't mean someone else can, don't impose our thoughts on others. In my opinion, whether investing is short-term or long-term depends on each person and it doesn't matter because as long as it brings the results we expect, we are right.

Just like what I was just saying in an old topic, between trading and holding for the long term, both are profitable, while losses are also inevitable. To become a successful trader, you have to learn and practice how to combine all the necessary trading tools that can enable you to make a profit, but as an investor, all you need is to hold your coin in a self-custodial wallet. 

If you want to trade Bitcoin for a short-term profit because you can't hold it for the long term, then you need to familiarize yourself with all the trading techniques and knowledge. 

I know it’s better to hold for the long term, but we are just different, and you have to do what works best for you. If you won’t be comfortable with holding for the long term, then do what works for you. But if you are holding for the short term, you should know it’s more risky, so you have to take time and properly do your analysis so that you won’t end up selling at a loss when you are planning to sell. You should know that not everyone is holding for the long term, some people are traders and they are making money, some are short term investors and they are still making money, but since you are still a newbie, you have to be very careful and properly do your analysis.

Your advice is not acceptable to me, because we are all here to make profit, that's right. But I don't have to negotiate with you how long I will hold my investment, because I know how long I need to hold my investment. But my plan is to hold bitcoin for a long time, you have a complete idea of how you will hold bitcoin according to your plan. 
So your advice on bitcoin investment is useless, so don't be disturbed by such useless advice on investment.

Just do what you want but make sure every decision you that is aligned on your research done to get a information about the crypto you want to trade. But what's good about that is you already know about holding but for now since you can't afford to do it then its good practice ground to gain knowledge if you know how to trade your coins. But also make sure to upgrade your knowledge so that you became more better unlike if you are just there because of the hype then leave if you didn't meet your expectation which is to gain easily on your possible trades.

Well its also up to you if you didn't listen on the advices to hold longer but for sure you would realize that bitcoin holding is more good option if you want to deal with bitcoins since trading it for short term is not really profitable. Also altcoin trading is so risky that's why its not advisable for newbies especially if they are so greedy and doesn't have good phase to decide and pick what's best coin to trade.

I wonder what those who came here 5 or 10+ years ago are doing on the forum? They should have already made multiple profits and retired without ever appearing here again...

Short-term or long-term investing is not important at all, it is much more important to understand what you are investing in. It's not just about the price, most people who decide to invest in BTC do not understand the risks that come from keeping their coins on exchanges, in hot wallets (desktop/mobile), or the importance of a safe backup.

All those who go the wrong way have a very high chance that something bad will happen to them, but then they should accept that it is their own fault - it is not the fault of Bitcoin, wallet or exchange.

short-term investment is very suitable, choose alcoin because alcoin moves quickly, especially if there is good news about one of alcoin, it is a big opportunity to take advantage, I once experienced an incident like that, at that time my friend said that Elon would release news about doge, so I was advised. I bought doge a few days later and I made a big profit.

Choosing a long-term or short-term strategy is up to you, you don't need to follow the crowd or follow other people's advice. But you also need to think again, why does the crowd prefer long-term holding over short-term investing? Or why are there stories of many people becoming rich and becoming millionaires by holding bitcoin, not by speculating like you are looking for? Those who give you long-term holding advice must have their own reasons and all they want is for you to be safer and secure your profits. People just want the best for you but the final decision is up to you because it's your money, you can do whatever you want.

Make sense. OP must consider also why a lot of people advocate of long term - because they are trapped in and underwater position, which means, some bought during the peak and Bitcoin dumps, then that's the time they consider "long term". Which that's the only they need if they want to make profits and not to sell at a loss.

So for OP, it really depends on the price entry, so you must be careful when you enter the market.

Greed will never give you long term profitability. Although I'm not against with short term investors since they have all the freedom to chose, but if you know the high potentials of bitcoin, you will never settle with short term but stick to its long term goal. Bitcoin is designed as a long term investment, I hope you keep that in mind. If you see those short term investors are in profits, know that those are for temporary, and not gonna lasts longer.

I'm so sorry but I believe you are absolutely contracting yourself!

I can't find a real meaning in what you have said. maybe you can be more clear

For Bitcoin, this statement is not entirely correct whereas for gambling it is very correct. If you have been in the business of Bitcoin for a while now, you will notice that the highest risk are taken by short term investors and often they end up losing money on the process. On the other hand long term investors take less risk and mostly make more profits from their investment. I believe you will agree with me on this because the records are there as well as the wailing of short term investors that lost large sums of money within a short period of time. So for Bitcoin, it will be right to say that the lower the risk, the high the reward.

True, at the end of the day, the one who will decide whether to go long-term or short-term is the inventor itself, so no matter what his or her choice is and no matter what the result, it is its own decision. You can maximise and utilise the potential profit in bitcoin if you will go long-term, but of course it still depends on your timing in entering the market. For example, if you buy bitcoin at a certain price, but onwards, bitcoin keeps dipping, and even after a month, the price of bitcoin is still not passing or still has a low profit even long-term, so timing is important in bitcoin if you want to go long-term. In the short term, this might be too risky because, of course, you are trading bitcoin or buying and selling in the short term, so we never know. The bitcoin market is unpredictable, so you might make the wrong move. But if you are good enough at predicting the bitcoin market, then it is great.

I think I kind off like OPs strategy as I see nothing wrong with it. Taking profits in cryptocurrency holdings to me doesn’t have time stipulations it can be long or short term there is nothing wrong the only thing is do not sell at a loss. I have always recommended to investors especially newbies that they shouldn’t even put a Time frame to take their profits because sometimes this periods might not even be the Perfect time to take profits. The best strategy to me is set a profit target, a realistic profit target once this target is reached and you wish to take profits then it’s ok. This strategy now doesn’t guarantees you that it will be in a long term or short term it is definitely dependent on the target is realized. One thing is the key to every successful hold is investing what you can afford to lose

We all invest for profits and that's for certain. However, we only differ on how we manage our investments whether it's for short term or long term as we have different strategies that we set to take, but still the end goal is to accumulate profits. You can chose to hold for long term, or settle on short term and that's for you to decide, as long as you get satisfaction on every profits you made, then it should be fine.

Exactly.

We've entered at different times and that's a different situation for us. So, no one tells you that shorting or selling is a wrong thing but we suggest for someone to hold for long term. But whether you listen or not to become a long term holder, it is always your call that shall be followed.

That is because based on our experience, we've made more by holding in the long term. And if you're able to make profits in the short term and you're at the right timing, no one will stop you to sell and if there's profit already for you.

I agree.

Do what you are good at and don't copy what people are doing. If others are doing it wrongly and you've noticed it then you're the one who's only going to be the right one.

And an investor doesn't need to get someone's approval for his/her own investments, actions and decisions.

You're essentially a speculator. You want some money here and now because you need it.

I always tell people the same thing.

1. You can't afford saving and investing, you will never be able to afford anything in your life, because that's where the difference between the rich and the poor lie. The poor live here and now, but the rich think 10 years ahead.

2. If you feel pressure to sell at a loss, you're way in over your head. In other words you've invested too much. Try to invest less and less, until it's such a small amount that you no longer care if it's down 5% or up 5% because these numbers mean nothing to you. For each of us it's a different number. I've been in a situation where $1k would be a lot of money and losing that would make a difference in my life. Right now I could see my bitcoin holdings go down by $100k and sleep like a baby.

OP here's a small point you need to understand about the market, as you've mentioned that some people held their coins for over 4 years and ended up in just no loss situation or similar kinds of things. They took their entry in those assets all in at the wrong time, you should know that in bull market hype you should be always careful before investing use the maximum of the assets at that time is always on ATH or near ATH. The best way to proceed in the short and long term is DCA and Bitcoin is not for the short-term investors who own less capital in my view you should accumulate for the long term.

Yup there's an exception for those who own decent capital and are interested in the Bitcoin market for the short term can try with their experienced strategies.

If you are investing in bitcoin for a short term, also prepare your mind to absorb all the risks that comes with investing for short term. From your post, it is clear you are in to grab the money and go your way. Bitcoin investment can make you rich and it can also make you poor, very poor that you can ever imagine. When we advice people to invest for long term, we are only ensuring that they spread the risks involved over a long period of time so they do not get to feel the impact of a particular event.

No one is a fool for deciding to invest for short term, as long as you would be withdrawing at a profit, your decision is okay. Just like you have rightly stated, how long you should hold will depend on the market forces of demand and supply which causes the bitcoin price to rise or fall. Your patience level should be another consideration because if you can't wait till you arrive at a good profit, your efforts so far would be a waste.

You are in the market to trade in order for you to take care of today's challenges and what will happen about the future challenges. Investing and hodli for along time means that you are preparing for the future challenge because your bitcoin investment will take care of whatever financial challenges that you will have in future if only you can hodli and build your bitcoin investment using DCA strategy to accumulate bitcoin overtime.

However, it is your choice to decide what you want in the crypto space after all it is your money and you have the right to do whatever you like  but you should also note that we are responsible for our own actions. You are new to the market and you will run at loss because you don't know much about trading.

Judging from your statement, I’m not quite sure you’re ready to pick up Bitcoin investments just yet. I seem to have the mindset that you would go at this wrongly because, your evidently scared about the journey your about to undertake which tells me, you up to investing more than you can afford to lose in the eventuality of a loss and that wouldn’t do you any good, than experience which arguably, it could be the lesson learned at the cost of a loss. Mind you, you would realise this even more when the market pumps and you wish to have hodl.

I wouldn’t ask you to hold on in your investment plans but, be sure to find the conviction you need to hodl for a longer term, it’s been known to pay off that’s why it’s widely adopted by a lot of investors, rather than hodl for a short term. As a beginner in the industry, short term hodling wouldn’t help you much, it creates room for anxiety and mistakes.

Bitcoin / cryptocurrencies are financial instruments that allow you to make a profit. How exactly you will use this financial instrument is entirely up to you. If you don’t want to wait for many years, please make a profit in a short time, if you succeed. There are no restrictions here (only the thickness of your wallet). But it has already happened, traditionally, that investing in currencies over a long period turns out to be a more stable, easier, I would even say, lazy way to increase your capital. But it and just hodl. If you have found your own way in investing, then go ahead and get rich.

Any decision (in investing) that brings profit is (a priori) correct.

That's you mean! You have your own goal with short-term investment then there is nothing wrong with what you said but why many people prefer long-term because they see bitcoin always profitable bigger then they prefer HODL.

You take what you think is good and leave what you think is not suitable for you.
In that goal I and you are different in their goals, you are doing for the short term which is important in terms of profit already obtained while I will wait for the long term then don't care about anything else because of what I believe that long-term bitcoin will be better.

The price of Bitcoin or other crypto coins is not stable. This is why they need to be held for a long time. They are volatile and your coin price may go down or go up after investment as you don't know which way your coin price will move after investment so you should invest with the preparation of a long term holding. Like if the price of the coin drops you can hold it until it recovers and profit or if the price of the coin goes up immediately you can profit from them very quickly.    It will be better for you.

Yeah thanks! That is really based on individual goals of what we want and the strategies of how we can get it done.
I also don't see senses of following the crowd in this investment space because everything about us differs and all that matters is how we can effectively make those goals done deals.

You need to invest in Bitcoin for profit which is short or long term anyway. Your decision should definitely be Bitcoin. Most of the crypto market is full of fraud there Bitcoin can meet your expectations but long term DCAing method. Short term investment ideas are relatively less likely to pay off but buying during dips period can give you huge profits in future.

It would be wrong if someone says that short-term investment strategies or plans don't work because there are a lot of investors and traders in the market who are only making short-term investments or trades and they are earning good profits on their investments because it's all about one's understanding about the market and the practices they need to use.

Someone who understands the market very well and knows when and in which direction it can move, can be pretty good with short-term trades because they will make their trades according to that, and those who don't have enough knowledge about it might prefer long-term investments.

In general, Bitcoin tends to be more suitable for the long term because of its price going up gradually over a period while altcoins tend to be more volatile in short term.

Less than 4 years still looks long because if not, then we can just say less than a month but gambling it is not a good idea because what if we lose? So, it's better if we can just set aside it. If we still want to gamble, we can only use another funds which are not yet planned for something more important.

A typical investor can also know what they are doing, so it's better to be specific and instead say that he is like a typical newbie or a weak-handed investor because he is doing it the wrong way. Investing has two types and that is short-term and long-term. There is nothing wrong in doing short-term investing as long as we know how to execute it well.

I think you actually want our opinions, if you didn’t you would not have opened the discussion if your mind was already made up. Whether you’re hodling for short term or long term make sure you invest only what you can afford to lose. Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme, the market is very volatile and it might take longer than you expect before you start seeing significant profits on your investment.

Everyone talks about HODLing Bitcoin forever, right? And thats great, if you're already a billionaire. However, most people need to make their money work for them now. So, short-term trading maybe a solution, but risky one. You see, crypto, its an unstable place. It bucks, it kicks, it can throw you off if you're not careful. But if you learn to ride it, you can go places. Taking profits when you can, thats smart. Its knowing when to take a break. You dont want to get greedy, you want to build your wealth steadily.

Long-term investing, thats like planting a tree. You gotta nurture it, protect it, and have faith it will grow. But not everyone has that luxury. Sometimes, you need to harvest the fruit now, to eat and to plant new seeds. Dont let anyone tell you one way is better than the other. Its about what works for you. Your money, your rules. Learn the market, trust your gut, and remember, the most important investment you can make is in yourself.

Emphasis on the OP's use of the term "cryptocurrency" because the OP is referring to altcoins as well as bitcoin. When it comes to altcoins, short term gains should be booked and exited. They should not be held for the long term because most of them will do well for sometime and then go down to never come back up again, of course this applies to the ones not coming up to the top 10 list.

The exact opposite is true for bitcoin. It is to be held for the long term and sold only case of emergency needs.

I started with bitcoin when it costed ~600$/BTC and now it costs...well you see my point.

as much as we have long time investors, so also we have short time investor in bitcoin investment. The short time investor don't really want to give in to too much volatility or wait long for any uncertainty with their investment, hence they get a certain percent of their return in investment, they will quickly take out their profit with an option to invest again maybe later in the future. The long time bitcoin investment, is that person that is ready to wait and go through all the rigorous uncertainty and volatility of the market just to get a huge return on his investments, or supposedly a person who just want to keep his bitcoin as an asset that will continue to yield profit for him and maybe pass it on to his children as his legacy. So depending on which side of the divide you want to fall in as an investor, is within your prerogative to choose what you want.

You can hold if you have good plan for your investment and have good capital source for your investment as well as prepare money for your individual and family finance in future.

You can not hold if you use all money to invest, then you will have to sell your coin when you need money to use or there will be emergency that forces you to sell your coin at any price, even you don't want to sell.

Holding bitcoins for 4 years or more than that, is good to get profit.

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No, that is a pure lie, it all depends on what you're good at and how you understand the need for going after the short or long market investment, some traders mostly make use of short term investment and that doesn't as well render the long term one useless or ineffective, we are to define the motive to what we want from the kind of investment we are aiming to take, this will also be acknowledged from the level of how experience we are in it.


That is why we have individual preference in making a bitcoin investment, some are only targeting the long-time investment as according to how they can afford to risk and wait patiently in other to earn from it, while some must engage on a short-term trade more frequently.

Do what works best for you in that situation, got to remember that not everyone has to do the same thing when it comes to investing, if you feel like you're getting overwhelmed by a long-term investment then don't do it but you have to understand though that you're going to need to be able to make some profit because it's a sad thing and a missed opportunity if you don't invest in bitcoin just because the long-term investment overwhelms you, that's not how you should do things.

If you think that you can't do it long-term no matter the convincing, you can probably learn how to scalp the market, although the profits that you're going to get out of that is going to be not a lot, but if you've got the drive to do it, scalping might just be for you. Good luck on your investment journey.

Short-term holding is never necessarily 'wrong'. It's just up to you if you have an actual viable strategy for your short-term trade; because truth be told, like 95% of people are not really capable of trading hence why the default advice is to just hold long term.

But you do you mate, it's your money. Make money? Good job! Lose money? Your fault.

Frankly speaking, the results are what we need to care about the most, so choosing to invest short-term or long-term, hold or trade...will depend on each person's choice and preferences. Each person will have different circumstances, different strengths and talents, no one is the same. So make the choices and methods that best suit you.

In investment, if you can make a lot of profits from day trading or from short-term investments, even surpass those who are investing for the long term. Who dares to say that you are making a mistake? If those who have seen your results still stubbornly say that you are making mistakes, they are simply jealous of you, so ignore those people.

You are investing in yourself, not in anyone else, so there is no need to imitate anyone or follow others, just do what you think is good for you and brings you the best results. But if your choice does not bring the expected success, you should listen to people's advice to make a better choice.

Well said, I don't understand why people need to follow or rely on someone else decision. It's fine for someone seeking for advice, he will get many replies with many different opinions. But, he's the one that need to choose which one is bad and which one is good for him.

If someone can make money from trading and earn more than just holding Bitcoin for four years, I'd say it's better than hold Bitcoin. When was earn more than investing Bitcoin is a shame or a crime lol.

If you are planning for the short term you are doing it wrong. You're probably sitting on money that you may need in less than 4 years and that's why you want to gamble it to see if you can make a quick profit.

I wish you luck but you look like a typical retail investor who invests at highs and sells at a loss out of fear.

Well, nobody said short term investors are on the wrong side.

We only have risk in the market and some risk are higher than others, we do prefer to take a risk that losses are lowered and profit are maximised. So if you prefer to go for the higher risk, it all depends on you and your level of risk tolerance. BTW the higher the risk the higher you are likely to get more rewards?.

So the market is an open place, you are not limited to others opinion.

Even in the long term investment, except in cases where you don't have need for the money any soon enough then it will be okay for you to want to hold further even through the bitcoin cycle but beyond that, you can actually hold long enough for the bull market to peak after which you can exit and then make sure to wait for another potential profitable entry which will turn out to be that which you can actually get to make the most of at the time, the primary aim of every investor is to make some profits off their holdings, any other goal could be secondary to that which they whish to achieve wit their holdings on the investment. short term investors aren't make wrong decisions but its all dependent on what you whish to achieve with your investment and how long it will take to realize it, if you are able to realize the much you want in a short term, its very safe to exit and not wait or want to get more in the process which you may end up loosing probably.

You know what brother? just do your own thing and what you're planning as you invest in Bitcoin. It doesn't matter whether you hold for the long term or you short it for profits.

Yes, we're all here for profits but it doesn't matter what your strategy is and that's based on your studies and patience as well.

Don't compare yourselves to the others. If we're going to hold for long term, what is it for you? we don't just go with the crowds, we're doing this because that's our plan and we know what we are doing.

As a beginner to this bitcoin market, I have understood that long term investing and holding is most beneficial to investors that short term holding.
But I being a beginner, I might not be affordable to hold too long because I have read about investors holding their coins for over 4 years.
Although I might be reprogrammed to long term investment in the future but I need to be practically convinced in reality based on what the market hold for Investors on long term and short terms.
As being speculated of all cryptocurrencies, they are all volatile so I am set to take my profits whenever I can and then the outcome potentials while I am Investing in this bitcoin industry would determine if I will have to hold for long. I don't think I will listen to all that advices of holding longer. We are only here to make profits and face our today's challenges and also prepares for future challenges. So I don't think that investors on the short term goals are at the wrong side because the Speculation of long term holding is excessively making it feel like short term Investors are on the wrong decision