Topic: I am confused as to why this thread was moved to the current section it is in. (Read 361 times)

Logically, it makes no sense to classify a post that clearly talks about Bitcoin, as a topic about alternative currencies, simply because it talks about ETH or any other currency.

In fact, there are certainly dozens (not to say hundreds) of topics in the Bitcoin tab, with references to altcoins. Because, depending on the context, information about altcoins may be relevant to the subject being discussed about Bitcoin.

I gave proper credit to Honest Abe. Just read to the bottom of the post it is clearly there.

I know some times I miss what is in a post>

I am guessing you simply over looked the credit I gave in that post.

This is a bit off topic but it does work well with another current thread in meta.
In the thread below the complaint is people do not read enough to make good posts (I paraphrased)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63128016

I would argue you did that on my Lincoln post in this thread.

 A lot of the issues are people are harried and sometimes miss obvious things.  It is mainly due to the flow of information tossed at us.

Usually it's very rare to see most post that talks about altcoin being allowed in the bitcoin discussion sections but however, just as the post you referenced here such can be allowed if not moved to speculation board, at least it would be a bit of mixed discussion knowing too well that such post doesn't belong there.
But I so much love the way it was moved to reduce some forms of random post and flooding the the bitcoin sections with altcoin post, again it's very easy to talks about bitcoin in the altcoin discussion or probably one can post a related topic over there it won't be moved and can also be discussed at the beginners & helps sections without moving.

If you read carefully, he's analyzing Bitcoin's move, but he think the news about Blackrock is accepting Ethereum ETFs will make Bitcoin bullish. He's not predicting if Ethereum price will reach x price nor will bullish/bearish.

Be careful, someone who hate or don't like you will report your post as plagiarized post and you might get banned.

https://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/gettysburg.htm

there is 1 sentence on the entire thread that side mentions eth.  there are far more sentences talking about btc.

I could start a really long thread on why some alt coin info must be allowed in context in btc areas. But I won't do that here.

I will refer to this post in my difficulty thread it references Doge and even shows a Doge difficulty thread. But frankly the

point of the post is Doge is affecting BTC difficulty. I kind of think his eth reference is the same.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5431167
 

this post is in my difficulty thread for BTC and poses a theory I have about Bitmain using excess gear in rotation to gain more profit. This practice cause a lot of fluctuation in BTC difficulty within the 13-14 day difficulty adjustments.

Showing the Doge chart is absolutely need  to illustrate my idea.

Thus some alt coin info is needed in some BTC posts.

One of the reasons I was attracted to this thread that confused me was the small but needed reference to Eth in th top first post.

No doubt you make more than 100 posts actually after reading this reply I get to read this one where he shared his competition with you in terms of posts, that's very productive although a one tries hard to cross other, overall making 100+ posts in a week, not an easy task, it does become a little easy when you post in local. Talking about myself, I have to make 40 posts and my posts cross 50 or 60 sometimes, lastly I remember I made more than 80 posts when the post quota was 60 posts per week. That's why I said making 100+ are not an easy task because 80 posts was not easy for me hehe.
You did well in reporting this issue as with your help the topic is moved in the desired section. Great work dear.

I clicked to the see the content of the post you are talking about from my own view the post below to speculation section and not altcoin section but, looking from what op wrote over there it's actually confusing because you wouldn't give exact place where the post should belong because he do also analysis about Ethereum but he first analyzed that of bitcoin so this shows it should belong to speculation section as you did mentioned. Usually the poster can moved it where he thinks the post belonged to but the mod can moved it back to where he thinks is belongings to instead of the original poster moving to place not suitable.
The thing is first moved can be from op while the rest could probably be from the mods in my opinion.

Sorry for the confusion as when I read it now, I also got confused maybe that's because the grammar correction tool I used did it wrong while I was posting it. I tried to say that when an OP moved the topic his name was written in the name place of "OP" and this all I was talking about was in the Telegram notification bot, I also added a picture for easiness.

And when the Moderator moved the post, his (moderator's) name was written in the "OP" name place position. Even if Cyrus is known by all as a popular moderator but in my opinion it does not matter whether he is popular or not the thing that matters here is moderation rank, if he is a moderator his name will be replaced by the real OP's name otherwise not.

It's true... something to regret.

Fortunately, we are in a community that is always very attentive, and sooner or later, these users end up being discovered.

If I present this :

 "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived, and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle field of that war. We come to dedicate a portion of it, as a final resting place for those who died here, that the nation might live. This we may, in all propriety do.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate we can not consecrate we can not hallow, this ground The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have hallowed it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here; while it can never forget what they did here.

It is rather for us, the living, we here be dedicated to the great task remaining before us that, from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here, gave the last full measure of devotion that we here highly resolve these dead shall not have died in vain; that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."


as my work yeah its quality, but its not mine it is  president Lincoln's Gettysburg address


That thread was was a quality thread with a good point. but it appears he did plagiarize on another thread.

But is everything crazy!? So now it's a series of users who presented quality content, who are getting into trouble?
Anyway...

Thanks for the short and accurate go-through. I don't know why the OP would move this topic around that much; maybe he was playing around with the "move" button and wanted to see how many times in 1 minute or in some specific time we can move a topic. He might not be aware of the forum rules, as according to the above members, he has been banned due to plagiarism, which is the biggest sin here.

Anyway, I think this topic should be moved back to the place where it belongs in the BTC discussion because this topic has nothing to do with the ALTs or even with speculation, but it is also ok if it is moved to the speculation section either.

Thanks for noticing this thread, dear OP. If it were not for you, then maybe this would not be captured, as most of the topics here are new and come in front of me. I can judge after reading it that either it will stay here or not.

I assumed that could also be the reason, but then again, when you click on the move option and you happen to see the section suggested for the topic to be moved to, the speculation board under economics always comes first and that of altcoin at the button of the list, so the Op probably passed the right place to click and went for altcoin.
 
It could be that the OP didn't know where was best for the thread; as I can see, Ethereum was also mentioned in the content of the same thread. Maybe the OP was literally confused about the right choice.


Your explanation is a little confusing. From the screenshot shared, when an OP moves a post, you won't know if it was done by the OP or not unless you know the name of the author in the first place. You can also tell who is a moderator; if not, you will have to click on the link yourself and confirm if the member who moved it could be the OP or moderator, as the Ninjastick bot doesn't differentiate. Unless for popular moderators action like Cyrus, which is almost known by all.

If I'm reading ninjastic.space correctly, the topic was first posted in "Bitcoin Discussion" board, then the thread was moved to "Speculation" (before post 62940499), then to "Mining speculation" (before post 62942525), and finally to "Speculation (Altcoins)" (before post 62952217). Since everything happened in the span of only a few days from the original post, I doubt that the moderators did it. It is very likely that the OP is responsible for moving the topic.

Yeah I need 40 posts a week and I am over 100 for the week. As I always posted a lot and it never was a big issue to write a lot of info on the internet. The thread he did was very much in tune with my '2015-2017 pattern Is matching current 2023-?  pattern thread.' It is why I read it and realized it was moved around quite weirdly. So I asked about it here.

Since OP is/was relatively inexperienced, he initially posted that topic in BItcoin discussion and when one of the members warned him to move it to Speculation, he probably missclicked or got cofnused and moved it to Altcoin Speculation instead.

This post was first made on 3rd October and after that, It was not moved according to the ninjastic tool. I am not aware of any other tool if that can find out who has moved this thread but I can at least get some idea if that post that is being moved is recorded on the ninjastic telegram bot. In the above picture, you can see the post was made but I did not find any notification about this post being moved.

Yeah, when any post is moved a notification appears like the following ones:
1:

2:


How do I find that if the post is moved by the op or moderators? if the name written in the place of OP is of moderators then he has moved it (on the ninjastic telegram bot) as in the second picture. And if the OP has moved the topic then his name will be shown in the place of the OP's name as in picture 1.

note* these are my observations and they might be wrong too.
Well, I don't know who has moved it here for sure in this case because the post's movement notification did not appear in the first place. But after reading this post I think you are right it did belong to the speculation section or in the BTC section. You are totally right, if the OP has moved this topic then he wasted the post of the signature participants but for me, that's not a problem just like you.

I think you got the wrong link, I found this one, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg62890748;topicseen#msg62890748, the report was made by lovesmayfamilis last September, it was a plagiarism and rephrasing report and Macoach was banned October 9(according to bpip extension).

Yeah, I can guess. It indeed ended up in a rather unexpected place.


I've only read through very quick, but it looks so indeed. As somebody correctly wrote, let's report and ask mods to move it where it belongs.


Now you made me search 
It looks like this post gives a clue: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62980880
I'd say a safe guess is that the reason is plagiarism.

I see somebody was faster in searching too.

Plagiarism : Link to where he was reported: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/report-plagiarism-copypaste-here-mods-please-give-temp-or-permban-as-needed-1926895


He even ban appeal but when he was caught with his own lies he have to abandon the thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-appeal-5157918

I agree moving a topic to a section that helps you gain signature money would be wrong.

But I read it and was confused as to the place it settled it.  Was actually not a bad topic for economics /speculation

as an aside how was he banned?

The appropriate way is to notify the moderators using the report to moderator. I will encourage everyone that see this thread to report it to be moved to bitcoin speculation board. As it is related to bitcoin and not altcoins, it would be moved.

I also agree to this.


Sorry, but this is not a valid reason for moving topics.


Yep. Even more, those wearing signatures should expect that topics can get moved with or without good reason.


Well, since OP is banned (at least that's my bpip extension shows), maybe a mod could fix this (and move it to correct place), please?

 I checked the post out and discovered how much it fit in the Bitcoin speculation board but there's something I observed and that's the Op may have moved it to altcoins> speculation>thinking that's where it fits because a user suggested he move it to Speculation board. Probably he hasn't really gotten the hang of moving topics to boards if not I see no reason why it was moved there in the first place.

The post was moved by the OP, as the moving announcement is also part of his post history, which is one thing I find common among posts that were moved by their original poster.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62946081

In my view, if a poster later realizes their post was posted in a section that wasn't appropriate, it's not their responsibility if those that responded didn't notice while it was in the 1st board. And hence shouldn't be liable for simply moving their own thread to the appropriate section, or making a mistake initially (we're all human, shit happens). Those wearing a signature are the ones that should be careful making responses in the appropriate section, and that includes reading the contents of the post thoroughly as well as reviewing the section.

Well, in this case though, it does indeed seem as if the topic was moved to the wrong section indeed. Perhaps the intended goal was the speculation board under bitcoin discussion, and not under the altcoins section. Bitcointalk gets a little confusing for having so many otherwise identical sections mirrored between bitcoin/altcoin discussions.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/september-didnt-follow-its-bear-cycle-5469077

the thread was moved two times and is currently in

Bitcoin Forum > Alternate cryptocurrencies > Speculation (Altcoins) (Moderator: mprep) > September didn't follow its bear cycle



It seems to me it has nothing to do with alt coins.

and it belong in

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Economics > Speculation


I ask this for a few reasons. Signature campaigns will pay for posts in some areas and not in other areas.

I make lots of signatures and I am always well past what I need to be but if you are in a campaign that does not pay for alt coin posts this move cost you as it now resides in alt coins.

I also simply don't understand if a mod moved it or if the op moved it.

Lastly I do no see why it is in alt coins and not btc.

What am I missing as to why it was placed here.

Could there have been 2 or 3 or 4 other posts in it that very very heavy alt coin based. As I do not see them if they were there.