I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen

mine2slow

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Quote from: jamesc760 on February 16, 2014, 02:54:23 PM

"They can't...they are too busy with more important forum business like moving off topic threads and deleting all traces of scammers from the site."

Another reason why they can't:

They are too busy blaming regular members, "Grow and use your brains, read the TC guide, blah blah blah.

Let the FED'S/RCMP/Whatever, do the dirty work. Members from other countries should post links to the LEO'S for that region.

Waiting for a website post in Scam Accusations prolly won't cut it. TAKE ACTION!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/avalonshenzhen-scam-50k84-btc-stolen-law-enforcement-links-469680

jamesc760

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"They can't...they are too busy with more important forum business like moving off topic threads and deleting all traces of scammers from the site."

Another reason why they can't:

They are too busy blaming regular members, "Grow and use your brains, read the TC guide, blah blah blah.

mine2slow

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If you are from the US contact the FBI with all the details of the theft $50K theft is enough to get there attention.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber

Other US cyber crime LE

https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/

http://www.ice.gov/cyber-crimes/

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Feel free to add details for you're region.

Follow the money here > https://blockchain.info/address/e659a2b53fec5c8864213fe9af39b7aad6c0b825

return my stolen BTC 14rBip93ePwJMp3kiFgz2WJ424p3iUSpEG

iglasses

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They can't...they are too busy with more important forum business like moving off topic threads and deleting all traces of scammers from the site.

zebtw

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Doubtful, but will the mods give out his access logs and reveal his ip information?

Rawted

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Quote from: iglasses on February 15, 2014, 08:32:39 PM

Quote from: Rawted on February 15, 2014, 08:22:30 PM

The plot thickens!

There's no plot...I was unlucky enough to get taken twice. In the first one I got back a tiny amount of what I lost and I still have no idea why if the guy got away with it he would refund anything. I was trying to remain civil with the guy in an attempt to recover my lost money. There's nothing more to it than that.

I am glad you have calmed down. I sincerely hope your money gets returned. I also urge you and anyone else conducting business on these forums to please review TC's guide - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/edu-how-to-spot-a-scammer-read-this-before-doing-any-transactions-137288. Lots of time went into developing that for no other motive than to help out.

Best of luck in the future, iglasses.

iglasses

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Quote from: Rawted on February 15, 2014, 08:22:30 PM

The plot thickens!

There's no plot...I was unlucky enough to get taken twice. In the first one I got back a tiny amount of what I lost and I still have no idea why if the guy got away with it he would refund anything. I was trying to remain civil with the guy in an attempt to recover my lost money. There's nothing more to it than that.

Rawted

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The plot thickens!

KWH

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In Collateral I Trust.

Quote from: Rawted on February 15, 2014, 07:58:26 PM

Quote from: iglasses on February 15, 2014, 06:16:14 PM

I got taken in this one too...same reason....I see previous buys that look like they went well...see senior members involved....NO threads saying hey this guy is a thief...
Fuck my fucking life.

another 1.1 btc gone forever.

and I'm getting tired of hearing 'use your own brain'...its quite obvious that this entire website is little more than a front for these thieves. This place is a haven for crooks who get protection FROM the site.

What is the IP Address(s) of this POS? bitcointalk won't tell us!
The very idea of these 'self moderated' threads are conducive to these scams.

The fucking site is AT BEST allowing these people to rip us off...at worst they are involved and profiting from it.

I'm fucking sick of this shit.

And then the site MOVES the topic into scam accusations because as we all know what's REALLY IMPORTANT is to not have off topic shit in the Groupbuy section

How about NOT moving ANOTHER fucking thread about ANOTHER fucking thief that YOU are protecting assholes....

I wonder how long it will take before this gets deleted???

There were no senior members involved. You may have thought there were, but you didn't do your due diligence (read above- they were made up names). I appreciate the fact you are upset, every normal person would be, but this is not the way to react. You're yelling at the people who tried to help out by painting his trust red and getting the mods involved.

Funny thing: He got taken in another GB, now he has a small refund with promises of more and he's now "giving the benefit of a doubt". Curious. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=457802.20

Quote from: iglasses on February 11, 2014, 12:55:57 PM

Quote from: KWH on February 11, 2014, 12:02:56 PM

Quote from: iglasses on February 10, 2014, 05:22:41 PM

I posted this in my thread but mrugala asked me to post in here as well. I have been sent back .2BTC and he wants to know how much more he owes me.

I think as of right now we have to take this man at his word. I see a few other posts in this thread that look similar to mine.

Sickness or not, where are the funds from the group buy? If they are sitting safe, what not a full refund ASAP? If these funds were used for any other purpose, no matter the circumstances, that is FRAUD.

What we are being told is that he met someone in person and he was beaten and robbed and as a result the BTC from the groupbuy was taken (that's why he is going the refund route instead of just sending the cards). He will now payback those who are entitled but he has to do it out of his own pocket and that will take several months.

I agree it is a rather fantastic tale and I can't verify it or dismiss it out of hand. I did receive a small amount back and am being told the rest will follow. Right now that is all that I know.

ahmed_bodi

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Bitrated user: ahmedbodi.

the best that anyone can do is to neg trust him

Rawted

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Quote from: iglasses on February 15, 2014, 06:16:14 PM

I got taken in this one too...same reason....I see previous buys that look like they went well...see senior members involved....NO threads saying hey this guy is a thief...
Fuck my fucking life.

another 1.1 btc gone forever.

and I'm getting tired of hearing 'use your own brain'...its quite obvious that this entire website is little more than a front for these thieves. This place is a haven for crooks who get protection FROM the site.

What is the IP Address(s) of this POS? bitcointalk won't tell us!
The very idea of these 'self moderated' threads are conducive to these scams.

The fucking site is AT BEST allowing these people to rip us off...at worst they are involved and profiting from it.

I'm fucking sick of this shit.

And then the site MOVES the topic into scam accusations because as we all know what's REALLY IMPORTANT is to not have off topic shit in the Groupbuy section

How about NOT moving ANOTHER fucking thread about ANOTHER fucking thief that YOU are protecting assholes....

I wonder how long it will take before this gets deleted???

There were no senior members involved. You may have thought there were, but you didn't do your due diligence (read above- they were made up names). I appreciate the fact you are upset, every normal person would be, but this is not the way to react. You're yelling at the people who tried to help out by painting his trust red and getting the mods involved.

ahmed_bodi

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Bitrated user: ahmedbodi.

I posted in this section and neg trusted him before. but my accusation fell to deaf ears. it saddens me to say i told you so. but thats how it is. :/

blackheart13

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It is difficult. Being new to the forum I didn't realized that the OP could delete and edit within the post. Surprised that it doesn't stay in group buy longer when a number of people were scammed. Unfortunately I ordered 10.

Obviously posting on the trust rating a negative as soon as you are in doubt of a buy being legit is a must to save others.

iglasses

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I got taken in this one too...same reason....I see previous buys that look like they went well...see senior members involved....NO threads saying hey this guy is a thief...
Fuck my fucking life.

another 1.1 btc gone forever.

and I'm getting tired of hearing 'use your own brain'...its quite obvious that this entire website is little more than a front for these thieves. This place is a haven for crooks who get protection FROM the site.

What is the IP Address(s) of this POS? bitcointalk won't tell us!
The very idea of these 'self moderated' threads are conducive to these scams.

The fucking site is AT BEST allowing these people to rip us off...at worst they are involved and profiting from it.

I'm fucking sick of this shit.

And then the site MOVES the topic into scam accusations because as we all know what's REALLY IMPORTANT is to not have off topic shit in the Groupbuy section

How about NOT moving ANOTHER fucking thread about ANOTHER fucking thief that YOU are protecting assholes....

I wonder how long it will take before this gets deleted???

KWH

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In Collateral I Trust.

Quote from: falseflag on February 15, 2014, 02:27:54 PM

hello,

IF- al lot of people know it was a scam-so my simple question ,why the hell was this thread 2 or 3 weeks open and he was be able to ripp of so many people?

why he was be able to moderate his thread and delete what he want - to prevent that some call him a scam in this thread?

i dont cry because of the 1.1 btc.... its bad and hard and i learned from it -but no one stops him and his thread instead of knowing ,that it is a scam?

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Warning: Moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Watch out for Ponzi schemes. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose.

falseflag

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hello,

IF- al lot of people know it was a scam-so my simple question ,why the hell was this thread 2 or 3 weeks open and he was be able to ripp of so many people?

why he was be able to moderate his thread and delete what he want - to prevent that some call him a scam in this thread?

i dont cry because of the 1.1 btc.... its bad and hard and i learned from it -but no one stops him and his thread instead of knowing ,that it is a scam?

Maxximus007

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I'm afraid not.. This was a pretty well set up scam! Not for us of course... I personally thought, well, third/fourth bach, quick response, this is a sound deal..

Have to get more careful in the future, waiting for some more evidence that vendors actually exist..

falseflag

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hello guys,

i was the first of batch 4 list.....

i send him 1.1 btc too ........fuck off if he ripped me/us off.

my adress: 183fFyZcnNcgMncadVW3GKXbp7XVaY8SZk
transaction id blockchain:
c732696f4d008afb228f2532db39efd348a0f8dd67ba28f8247a4b2751299b7a

it would be ineresting for all if

ANY ONE received a functional miner from avalonshenzen with picture ......?(i dont think so , but there are still wonders outside )

regards

falseflag

Airwhale

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I got scammed also. Sigh. =( 1.1 BTC.

Maxximus007

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Damn... Luckily I waited with the second order on a tracking number.. But still hate lo loose my 1.1 BTC!!!

Why was this so long here, although there were many newbie orders.. (including me now, I know...)

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