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legendary
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Ok I've got some newb questions maybe u can help me with.  I have a simple Dell Pentium 4 Windows XP Home Edition pc. I don't game expect for xbox and ps3 and things like that so this is all new to me. 

GPU's i get the basics that it is stronger then a cpu but I confused by all the add ons and want to know what the basic setup for someone like me would be.  For someone like me how do I get started mining?  Do I have to by all these different components or do I just need to rig a video card to my pc to get started and is a GPU another name for a video card?

Sorry if this is really basic and newbish but I just don't get what my first to should be and what I can expect will happen once it's taken.  And and all help is very much appreciated.  Smiley

I just spent a week attempting to get an old computer mining on Win XP.  I eventually gave up.  Drivers can be installed for a AMD 7xxx series card, however there is no OpenCL support on XP anymore.  I went through numerous drivers and combinations of different SDKs, but I could not get it CGminer or GUIminer to recognize my card (HD7950).

I ended up running BAMT on a USB stick.

i have a couple of rigs on xp  i cant rember how i did it thow i will have a look and let you know
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Ok I've got some newb questions maybe u can help me with.  I have a simple Dell Pentium 4 Windows XP Home Edition pc. I don't game expect for xbox and ps3 and things like that so this is all new to me. 

GPU's i get the basics that it is stronger then a cpu but I confused by all the add ons and want to know what the basic setup for someone like me would be.  For someone like me how do I get started mining?  Do I have to by all these different components or do I just need to rig a video card to my pc to get started and is a GPU another name for a video card?

Sorry if this is really basic and newbish but I just don't get what my first to should be and what I can expect will happen once it's taken.  And and all help is very much appreciated.  Smiley

I just spent a week attempting to get an old computer mining on Win XP.  I eventually gave up.  Drivers can be installed for a AMD 7xxx series card, however there is no OpenCL support on XP anymore.  I went through numerous drivers and combinations of different SDKs, but I could not get it CGminer or GUIminer to recognize my card (HD7950).

I ended up running BAMT on a USB stick.
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sorry I was on the phone and forgot I posted this.  Hey I really apreaciate the detailed replies zachclark70, mccminer and suryc!

I will look over ur reply fully zach as I was unsure that comment was directed at me initially but I'm sure ur post will really help me get an idea of what I need to do if I do start mining. 

mccminer and suryc, your posts really helped me understand and simplify the basics of what I was confused about.  It's what I suspected but was always unsure I totally got what I was reading so thanks all of you for taking the time to break it all down.  I have come close to mining ltc with my pc but decided against it at the last minute. I now fully understand what ppl are discussing generally when they talk about the cards so I must say thanks again for the rundown! Smiley
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Ok I've got some newb questions maybe u can help me with.  I have a simple Dell Pentium 4 Windows XP Home Edition pc. I don't game expect for xbox and ps3 and things like that so this is all new to me. 

GPU's i get the basics that it is stronger then a cpu but I confused by all the add ons and want to know what the basic setup for someone like me would be.  For someone like me how do I get started mining?  Do I have to by all these different components or do I just need to rig a video card to my pc to get started and is a GPU another name for a video card?

Sorry if this is really basic and newbish but I just don't get what my first to should be and what I can expect will happen once it's taken.  And and all help is very much appreciated.  Smiley

Just want to give a shot at a very simplified answer:

Yes, A GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) is a video card. The ones discussed here and that are of any use for mining are the high-end ones that need their own power, so as zack said, you may need a larger power supply to support putting one in your existing computer. Also, you need to make sure your computer has space (these are big video cards) and they go in a PCIe16x slot. I agree, the ideal card is a 7950. There are many different manufacturers that use AMD's 7950 chip, that is the Sapphire that zack suggests, I also use MSI, and have heard good things about Gigabyte. Any of them will work. If you can get one of these installed in your PC then all you need is software and there are many guides online on how to use that.

Good luck and we're here to help if you have any questions.
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Ok I've got some newb questions maybe u can help me with.  I have a simple Dell Pentium 4 Windows XP Home Edition pc. I don't game expect for xbox and ps3 and things like that so this is all new to me. 

GPU's i get the basics that it is stronger then a cpu but I confused by all the add ons and want to know what the basic setup for someone like me would be.  For someone like me how do I get started mining?  Do I have to by all these different components or do I just need to rig a video card to my pc to get started and is a GPU another name for a video card?

Sorry if this is really basic and newbish but I just don't get what my first to should be and what I can expect will happen once it's taken.  And and all help is very much appreciated.  Smiley

First off, I don't think that there's a whole lot of support for XP in the mining community.  Just what I've read, haven't tried it myself.  Most seem to use Windows 7 or Linux.

If you can get past the OS hurdle, the next step would be to add a GPU (aka Video Card).  nVidia hardware doesn't work well with the requirements of BTC mining.  AMD cards perform much better for the same investment.

Once that's added, you'll need mining software.  Plenty to choose from.  I prefer cgminer.

Lastly, you'll need to select a pool to participate in and set up and account.  At this point, solo-mining by yourself would be like playing the lottery.

If mining is interesting to you and you just want to try it, then by all means go for it.  If you think it's a "get rich" plan, then you need to do more research.  Let's say that you invested the $400'ish in a new 7970 GPU, and conservatively let it run at 580MH/s, so that you can still use your machine for other things.  That rate will find you about .02 BTC/day at the current difficulty.
legendary
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hardwere wise you will need a good gpu conpatable with your motherboard have a look at your psu its prob 350w or so and dosent have 2 8pin gpu conectors  and a cheep brand
( cheep brands dont last verylong under high loads )

so you might need a psu and a gpu ( a corsair hx series  psu used are not to expencive  with 1 card you would only need a 500w good brand psu )

if you have a pcie slot a 7950 / 7970 are good ( i prefer 7950s ) do not buy xfx gfx cards thay run hot and dont get the best hash rate

i use 7950 saphire vaporx dualbios oc edition ( run cool and good hashrate ) if you put it in your pc case i would leave the side of the case off for beter air flow


softwere wise reaper is probably the best to start with just google how it works  if you need help with that just mesage me

and other questions just ask

thanks

zack


before everyone jumps on my speling its not my falt im dislexic
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Ok I've got some newb questions maybe u can help me with.  I have a simple Dell Pentium 4 Windows XP Home Edition pc. I don't game expect for xbox and ps3 and things like that so this is all new to me. 

GPU's i get the basics that it is stronger then a cpu but I confused by all the add ons and want to know what the basic setup for someone like me would be.  For someone like me how do I get started mining?  Do I have to by all these different components or do I just need to rig a video card to my pc to get started and is a GPU another name for a video card?

Sorry if this is really basic and newbish but I just don't get what my first to should be and what I can expect will happen once it's taken.  And and all help is very much appreciated.  Smiley
legendary
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lol 3 cards is under 750w from the wall and 4 cards is under 950w from the wall if you dont overclock them even ocd a 1200w psu is plenty
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lol at how bad milk crate rigs are  ( i have 20 rigs of 4 7950s and have tryed nearly every difrent rig setup out there lol ) thats why it was anoying people sed my rig was the worst ever

question for you.

I have 2 system each with 4x 7950.  I am running into an issue when trying to bring the 4th online.  CGMiner says its SICK then DEAD and reports the temp as 511 degrees

I have a corsair 1200watt PSU and I think I have narrowed it down to this.  The card that dies is the one that I have to use 4 pin Molex to 6-8pin PCI-E power.  What do you use for your setup?

thanks!

A refrence 7950 pulls 250-300 watts when used in a gpgpu scenario
That puts the draw for 4 of them at the full capacity of your psu and it's unlikely that your entire 1200 watts is available via 12v power.
you're going to need to investigate dual psu options, larger psu's or limit yourself to 3x 7950 using that particular psu.
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I think zackclark70 is just trying to do the community a service. I like the idea of custom rigs for these tasks. The more ideas out there the more help for all of us in perfecting our boxes.

I think the way to go now is RaspberryPi with dedicated ASIC devices hooked up to them.

But if that is too much work, you can take the easy route and just buy shares in virtual mining via TAT.VIRTUALMINE available on bitfunder.com.


i have 20 rigs with 4 7950s in each and 1 with 3 cards
list of things i can help with

hardwere problems
overclocking 7950s ( saphire mainly )
watercooing
biulding rigs in boxes not crates
and a whole load of otherstuff lol just ask 

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Maybe people would take you more seriously if you could:

a) learn to spell
b) use capitalization
c) use punctuation
d) didn't delete posts, making your thread make no sense.

Just putting it out there, you know?
legendary
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legendary
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lol at how bad milk crate rigs are  ( i have 20 rigs of 4 7950s and have tryed nearly every difrent rig setup out there lol ) thats why it was anoying people sed my rig was the worst ever

question for you.

I have 2 system each with 4x 7950.  I am running into an issue when trying to bring the 4th online.  CGMiner says its SICK then DEAD and reports the temp as 511 degrees

I have a corsair 1200watt PSU and I think I have narrowed it down to this.  The card that dies is the one that I have to use 4 pin Molex to 6-8pin PCI-E power.  What do you use for your setup?

thanks!

most 7950s have 2 6/8pin conectors use 1 adapter and 1 psc conecter on 2 cards and try using gpuz to see what the card gets on the 12v rail
im gesing you have an ax1200 or a ax1200i i have both of them and thay work fine with 4 cards

when i use adapters i use 1 on the first card 1 on the second card then use the 6 psu ones 1 in the first 1 in the second 2 each for the last 2 cards the pci slots on the motherboard con only put out a ltd amount of power if i can rember i think its( pcie 16 75w)( pcie 8 50w)( and pcie 4 25w)

so its best not to use adapters on pcie 4 that could be the prob
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lol at how bad milk crate rigs are  ( i have 20 rigs of 4 7950s and have tryed nearly every difrent rig setup out there lol ) thats why it was anoying people sed my rig was the worst ever

question for you.

I have 2 system each with 4x 7950.  I am running into an issue when trying to bring the 4th online.  CGMiner says its SICK then DEAD and reports the temp as 511 degrees

I have a corsair 1200watt PSU and I think I have narrowed it down to this.  The card that dies is the one that I have to use 4 pin Molex to 6-8pin PCI-E power.  What do you use for your setup?

thanks!
legendary
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lol at how bad milk crate rigs are  ( i have 20 rigs of 4 7950s and have tryed nearly every difrent rig setup out there lol ) thats why it was anoying people sed my rig was the worst ever
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legendary
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stackable box with 1 120mm x 360mm hole each side fans mounted in 1 side to move cool air threw the box wooden card mouning rails to stop vibrations ect ( was a pick of the test set up not the fineshed product but hay fed up of people critacizing my suff )
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Dammit... Now I want to see it. Milk crates are a step up from a lot of off-the-shelf enclosures, but they still suck. How bad could it be? Was it like a big plastic box with a couple fan holes?
legendary
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Worst. Setup. Ever. Its like offering to instruct someone how to cut off their own penis.

i have deleted all the posts i know it works and i get a good hashrate / low temps 99.99% uptime thats fine im fed up with people say its crap ect it is 100 times beter than all the milk crate rigs/ open rigs i dont care anymore all you lot can work it out yourselfs have a nice day
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Worst. Setup. Ever. Its like offering to instruct someone how to cut off their own penis.
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