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Quote from: Pamadar on July 12, 2023, 04:47:26 PM

Fewer gambling means that the chance of losing a huge amount of money can be controlled.

If you have the objectives of finding some entertainment and relaxations, you will be able to achieve it with fewer gambling
participations, but if you are into a deeper side of gambling where the intention is to make money from this venue, the
risk is really high, and you needed to plan your money as the chance of losing more is something that you really can't avoid.

. We engage in recreational activities, but it does not guarantee our passage to safe less; rather, we are groomed to gambling; what matters is how long we can hold on, but at some point, we will gamble. Losses occur on a daily basis; it only takes the intervention of critical discipline to permanently quit gambling. It drains our blood every time we gamble; gambling less will only save us some specific losses, but this will continue for a long time; however, permanent stopping will clear out all losses or desire to gamble, but the path is not an easy one.

I agree if you gamble less there is less risk and no fear of losing money. Play as a recreation means earning money is not a job, it is just play and fun and relaxation. In other words come to play for any trader, doing the same business for years can lead to boredom, but in a casino environment he can taste the novelty of different games day after day. Here you don't have to fall into anything permanently and it becomes possible to control yourself.

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Advice for everyone, imho the only way to stay safe from gambling is to let someone else manage your finances. As long as you have access to money, nothing works, not a single tactics and abstinence, banning web pages, setting limits, nothing. If you have money and try to play less, your wish to gambler will only grow. No money = no gambling problem.

As to OP post, investing can be also counted as gambling, as you are still trying your luck to improve financial position, yet on the other hand investing is not about emotions like gambling. There is yes and no answer to OP situation, both you and your friends are right.

Luckily I entrusted my wife to manage my finances because I am not very good at managing finances so it is easy to waste money on gambling, it is true that we need to entrust someone to manage finances to stay safe because then we will not be affected by situations such as emotions gambling and others that harm ourselves in the end.

I agree with that that gambling and trading are not much different because you are betting for a result that we predict in the future, in fact the difference is in the risks, for example gambling when you lose then you will lose all your money and while investing in crypto the risk is you don't will lose the crypto you have only lose its value. that is the difference between gambling and investing in crypto.

If we have our own family then Our partner in life is the only person we can trust and we can intust our money to them and yes you are right that mate sometimes we are not good in budgeting so it's better to intrust our money to our partner in order to prevent such loss and we gamble using our extra money , and also w must have the mindset that we gamble for fun and not for our daily income.

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Quote from: piebeyb on July 13, 2023, 08:40:54 AM

Luckily I entrusted my wife to manage my finances because I am not very good at managing finances so it is easy to waste money on gambling, it is true that we need to entrust someone to manage finances to stay safe because then we will not be affected by situations such as emotions gambling and others that harm ourselves in the end.

You need to make sure if your wife is someone that can be trusted and will never do harm to you until the end of her life. If you ask your wife to manage all of your money, you need to accept the worst case if your wife might lie to you and use all of your money. Personally I choose to manage my money than entrust to my wife, there's no one in this world can be trusted except our self.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 13, 2023, 07:49:07 AM

Advice for everyone, imho the only way to stay safe from gambling is to let someone else manage your finances. As long as you have access to money, nothing works, not a single tactics and abstinence, banning web pages, setting limits, nothing. If you have money and try to play less, your wish to gambler will only grow. No money = no gambling problem.

As to OP post, investing can be also counted as gambling, as you are still trying your luck to improve financial position, yet on the other hand investing is not about emotions like gambling. There is yes and no answer to OP situation, both you and your friends are right.

Has far as the person is grown I don't see the reason that the person can not discipline himself or herself instead of going to the extent of allowing another person to manage your finance, it's very hard to trust someone in relation to money anyone can be tempted but the only thing I can say is that there should be a limit to whatever, combined with when it comes gambling, going above the limit can cause serious damages to your finance, investing is different from gambling, even if the chance is still 50/50 I would still not count investing to be the same with gambling and one thing with gambling once you get addicted then that's were the problem starts from. you start putting too much expectation.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 13, 2023, 07:49:07 AM

Advice for everyone, imho the only way to stay safe from gambling is to let someone else manage your finances. As long as you have access to money, nothing works, not a single tactics and abstinence, banning web pages, setting limits, nothing. If you have money and try to play less, your wish to gambler will only grow. No money = no gambling problem.

As to OP post, investing can be also counted as gambling, as you are still trying your luck to improve financial position, yet on the other hand investing is not about emotions like gambling. There is yes and no answer to OP situation, both you and your friends are right.

Luckily I entrusted my wife to manage my finances because I am not very good at managing finances so it is easy to waste money on gambling, it is true that we need to entrust someone to manage finances to stay safe because then we will not be affected by situations such as emotions gambling and others that harm ourselves in the end.

I agree with that that gambling and trading are not much different because you are betting for a result that we predict in the future, in fact the difference is in the risks, for example gambling when you lose then you will lose all your money and while investing in crypto the risk is you don't will lose the crypto you have only lose its value. that is the difference between gambling and investing in crypto.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 12, 2023, 04:47:26 PM

Fewer gambling means that the chance of losing a huge amount of money can be controlled.

If you have the objectives of finding some entertainment and relaxations, you will be able to achieve it with fewer gambling
participations, but if you are into a deeper side of gambling where the intention is to make money from this venue, the
risk is really high, and you needed to plan your money as the chance of losing more is something that you really can't avoid.

We engage in recreational activities, but it does not guarantee our passage to safe less; rather, we are groomed to gambling; what matters is how long we can hold on, but at some point, we will gamble. Losses occur on a daily basis; it only takes the intervention of critical discipline to permanently quit gambling. It drains our blood every time we gamble; gambling less will only save us some specific losses, but this will continue for a long time; however, permanent stopping will clear out all losses or desire to gamble, but the path is not an easy one.

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Advice for everyone, imho the only way to stay safe from gambling is to let someone else manage your finances. As long as you have access to money, nothing works, not a single tactics and abstinence, banning web pages, setting limits, nothing. If you have money and try to play less, your wish to gambler will only grow. No money = no gambling problem.

As to OP post, investing can be also counted as gambling, as you are still trying your luck to improve financial position, yet on the other hand investing is not about emotions like gambling. There is yes and no answer to OP situation, both you and your friends are right.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on July 12, 2023, 11:02:31 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 12, 2023, 11:26:15 AM

Well, that is what they make us believe, but as I have said in many cases, when we operate with Bitcoin, what is the need for government regulators to know who does it, how they do it and why they do it, for later demand a very large tax and they continue to benefit, so it doesn't seem like that to me,

I understand your point but there's no way the government will know about the sender and recipient of all cryptocurrency even after the regulation is signed but the tax range will be determined base on geographical location and there's no way the government won't benefit if we want Bitcoin to be used as the mainstream of payment.

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 12, 2023, 11:26:15 AM

Satoshi created bitcoin to obtain financial freedom, not so that we are under the same yoke all the time, yes, I know that through the casinos they can have access to the players, through the Excahnges they can have access to the best and biggest whales, but why in the end extract something from it.

Yes, but even if Satoshi could provide an explanation about this he will agree to the regulation because it's something we should expect after the success of the crypto market, and the market regulation doesn't mean we're totally under the same yoke the market can not be totally regulated.

While Satoshi has acted his own path by the creation of bitcoin which is a decentralized digital currency, it is left for us to decide through which means do we want to make use of this currency such a way that we will be safe and secured, if you think that yours is to have a privacy plan as your priority them make use of bitcoin for your crypto gambling and send them from a decentralized wallet to the casino wallet, also make use of a casino that does not require KYC protocols or requirements for creating an account with them, with this alone you can be far better stayed stafe.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 12, 2023, 04:47:26 PM

Fewer gambling means that the chance of losing a huge amount of money can be controlled.

If you have the objectives of finding some entertainment and relaxations, you will be able to achieve it with fewer gambling
participations, but if you are into a deeper side of gambling where the intention is to make money from this venue, the
risk is really high, and you needed to plan your money as the chance of losing more is something that you really can't avoid.

That's the goal we have to achieve not to lose large amounts of money. But usually, many gamblers lose their temper so they don't remember previous losses and instead use more money to gamble. Enjoying gambling is fine as long as they can determine how much money they can spend so that will be a limit that can keep them from losing big. As gamblers, we must avoid the risk to enjoy our time playing gambling and have fun.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on July 12, 2023, 11:02:31 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 12, 2023, 11:26:15 AM

Well, that is what they make us believe, but as I have said in many cases, when we operate with Bitcoin, what is the need for government regulators to know who does it, how they do it and why they do it, for later demand a very large tax and they continue to benefit, so it doesn't seem like that to me,

I understand your point but there's no way the government will know about the sender and recipient of all cryptocurrency even after the regulation is signed but the tax range will be determined base on geographical location and there's no way the government won't benefit if we want Bitcoin to be used as the mainstream of payment.

The government cannot know or track every cryptocurrency transaction, but the government can find out the incoming and outgoing money that you have when circulating through a bank account and from this it is possible that the government can apply taxes on what you already have, like in my country there is a tax that requested when there is a transaction or deposit of large amounts of money in a bank account.

Back to the topic that when the government gives permission to use Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, the number of gamblers who play at crypto-based casinos will also increase because they have been given easier access to using crypto so that it will be increasingly difficult for everyone who wants to stop or reduce gambling.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 12, 2023, 11:26:15 AM

Well, that is what they make us believe, but as I have said in many cases, when we operate with Bitcoin, what is the need for government regulators to know who does it, how they do it and why they do it, for later demand a very large tax and they continue to benefit, so it doesn't seem like that to me,

I understand your point but there's no way the government will know about the sender and recipient of all cryptocurrency even after the regulation is signed but the tax range will be determined base on geographical location and there's no way the government won't benefit if we want Bitcoin to be used as the mainstream of payment.

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 12, 2023, 11:26:15 AM

Satoshi created bitcoin to obtain financial freedom, not so that we are under the same yoke all the time, yes, I know that through the casinos they can have access to the players, through the Excahnges they can have access to the best and biggest whales, but why in the end extract something from it.

Yes, but even if Satoshi could provide an explanation about this he will agree to the regulation because it's something we should expect after the success of the crypto market, and the market regulation doesn't mean we're totally under the same yoke the market can not be totally regulated.

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You cant really say that sports betting cant really be able to create those addicted gamblers on which there are still who are addicted bettors too, it is really just that the result or outcome of getting wrecked isnt really that
on fast pacing unlike when you do play on a casino or fast pace kind or type of games on which you would be definitely be finding yourself that losing money on a very fast manner. Doesnt matter whether you are getting involved with sports or casinos which risks is always there. Gambling is for entertainment and if you do know on what you are doing and you are really setting out those limitation or moderation on how you would be spending things up then you are really just that fine or you would be considering yourself to be just fine. Speaking about investment and other similar ventures then it would really be according into you because
not all would really be that mindful in regard into this matter.

Indeed, the pace at which wins and losses occur varies between gambling forms. However, it's not necessarily the speed of the loss that fuels addiction. Persistent, slow losses can create a false illusion of mastery, enticing individuals into the mire of problem gambling. Indeed, gambling is seen as entertainment – the optimal circumstance. Yet, the line separating joy and dependency is delicate and often blurred, particularly without self-regulatory checks. On comparing gambling to investing, one must grasp their essential distinctions. Investment entails calculated risks, backed by market study and financial foresights. In contrast, gambling depends primarily on chance, where the house always holds an advantage

Gambling less is one of the ways we can ensure that we stay safe as a gambler since frequent gambling can make us to become an addictive gambler. Loses is one of the often things we do see in gambling and we should not be discouraged and decided to go into gambling fully with the urge of making more money from it if we become a full term gambler. Once we defined the reason why we are going into gambling, that will make us to sharpen our objectives and help us to achieve our object with time not trying very hard to be a successful or profitable gambler by all means with little understanding.

Fewer gambling means that the chance of losing a huge amount of money can be controlled.

If you have the objectives of finding some entertainment and relaxations, you will be able to achieve it with fewer gambling
participations, but if you are into a deeper side of gambling where the intention is to make money from this venue, the
risk is really high, and you needed to plan your money as the chance of losing more is something that you really can't avoid.

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Quote from: n0ne on June 28, 2023, 01:00:56 AM

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You cant really say that sports betting cant really be able to create those addicted gamblers on which there are still who are addicted bettors too, it is really just that the result or outcome of getting wrecked isnt really that
on fast pacing unlike when you do play on a casino or fast pace kind or type of games on which you would be definitely be finding yourself that losing money on a very fast manner. Doesnt matter whether you are getting involved with sports or casinos which risks is always there. Gambling is for entertainment and if you do know on what you are doing and you are really setting out those limitation or moderation on how you would be spending things up then you are really just that fine or you would be considering yourself to be just fine. Speaking about investment and other similar ventures then it would really be according into you because
not all would really be that mindful in regard into this matter.

Indeed, the pace at which wins and losses occur varies between gambling forms. However, it's not necessarily the speed of the loss that fuels addiction. Persistent, slow losses can create a false illusion of mastery, enticing individuals into the mire of problem gambling. Indeed, gambling is seen as entertainment – the optimal circumstance. Yet, the line separating joy and dependency is delicate and often blurred, particularly without self-regulatory checks. On comparing gambling to investing, one must grasp their essential distinctions. Investment entails calculated risks, backed by market study and financial foresights. In contrast, gambling depends primarily on chance, where the house always holds an advantage

Gambling less is one of the ways we can ensure that we stay safe as a gambler since frequent gambling can make us to become an addictive gambler. Loses is one of the often things we do see in gambling and we should not be discouraged and decided to go into gambling fully with the urge of making more money from it if we become a full term gambler. Once we defined the reason why we are going into gambling, that will make us to sharpen our objectives and help us to achieve our object with time not trying very hard to be a successful or profitable gambler by all means with little understanding.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 28, 2023, 01:33:12 AM

It's not how often that you gambles makes you remain safe in it, it's how serious and committed you're in doing other things while gambling and none is being affected, this also talks about being able to multitask, we know that not everyone can have upto this ability as expected but we can all try our best by adopting a safety measures, cautions and guides while gambling to help monitors the extent to the rate which we can go in gambling

Actually the OP had a point. It seems inappropriate to call someone an addicted gambler if they only play rarely and if you noticed, all addicted person have similarities. That is they are overdoing the thing that they got addicted to and the main remedy to their condition is to engage less on that activity or to not do that activity for a while, until they are fully healed. It will still take a commitment because it's not easy going out of an addiction.

What you are saying there is still possible. We can use auto bet to do other things and this can also prevent us from liking the game too much because we are not focusing on it but I doubt if many people are doing it. Playing passively is less fun you know.

Someone who is not too addicted might be able to, with a little commitment to avoid gambling a little, not to visit gambling too often, it will definitely be easier compared to a gambling addict who already thinks too much that gambling is the most comfortable place, it will be a little difficult to treat people like that.
Actually I also support what Op has explained and I totally agree that reducing the time of gambling or limiting yourself from gambling will guarantee a better life.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on June 30, 2023, 04:47:25 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 28, 2023, 08:17:15 PM

I think that absolutely everyone knows that bitcoin and cryptocurrencies should not be supervised by governments, banks, or control organizations, because this is what fiat money is for, bank records, the very large money movements that exist are not enough. ? I think that centralism is not the solution, it is known that governments tell people that they are going to protect them in order to obtain all their data and activities, because if they are Outside the range that they manage, then it is already wrong , and if a person benefits from money that is outside the normal range, it is already an imbalance, and if there are many who follow this path, the imbalance will always be greater, and at some point it will be uncontrollable, then for such a reason I think that Governments come in with regulations, with resources like KYC for Casinos.

I don't think the government claim to offer protection for people who execute the KYC because it's something introduced for the casino to know their customer and it actually comes into the picture when some gamblers are using casino to launder money.

Quote from: kotajikikox on June 29, 2023, 01:58:13 AM

well that is one of the issue that's why OP is gone now because he cannot address all the question given here.

Guys, don't make false claims. Are you in talk with the OP? How do you know the OP is gone because she/he can't address all the questions presented on this thread?

Well, that is what they make us believe, but as I have said in many cases, when we operate with Bitcoin, what is the need for government regulators to know who does it, how they do it and why they do it, for later demand a very large tax and they continue to benefit, so it doesn't seem like that to me, Satoshi created bitcoin to obtain financial freedom, not so that we are under the same yoke all the time, yes, I know that through the casinos they can have access to the players, through the Excahnges they can have access to the best and biggest whales, but why in the end extract something from it.

I am one of those who will never support the regulations, bitcoin is for free people, and not to be adjusted to a system like the one we are all the time, that is why I will never agree with KYC, but as I have said, I have only fulfilled KYC with a few casinos and only with 2 or 3 excahnges at most, but it is not the idea.

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Based on my understanding maybe there'll be 10% of sports betting addicts whereas the 90% will be on luck based games addiction.

This is probably a true observation. It is because sports bettors usually do their research before they make a bet. They are not in a hurry. They are scholars. I mean not all of them like this but most of then are. People that bet on luck based games however, they are into get rich quick stuff. They try various patterns and strategies sometimes but in the end they all want the same thing. I don’t blame them however. Luck based games are only good to turn your 1 money into 2+ or zero. It only takes a second to see the result. You don’t need to do any research or have any information beforehand. You just need pure luck.

Of course you need some information regarding how the game works even if it is just any luck-based games, but regarding about most of the games in that bracket, you definitely need to have more luck than knowledge because that is only factor that keeps you moving in your activity as without it, it will only take you a mere seconds of your life to lose everything.

And for the sports gambling, luck is still a needed factor but in this case, you need to have more knowledge and information so that you can increase your chances of winning in any given game as you will need that to analyze some datum before placing your bet.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 28, 2023, 01:33:12 AM

It's not how often that you gambles makes you remain safe in it, it's how serious and committed you're in doing other things while gambling and none is being affected, this also talks about being able to multitask, we know that not everyone can have upto this ability as expected but we can all try our best by adopting a safety measures, cautions and guides while gambling to help monitors the extent to the rate which we can go in gambling

Actually the OP had a point. It seems inappropriate to call someone an addicted gambler if they only play rarely and if you noticed, all addicted person have similarities. That is they are overdoing the thing that they got addicted to and the main remedy to their condition is to engage less on that activity or to not do that activity for a while, until they are fully healed. It will still take a commitment because it's not easy going out of an addiction.

What you are saying there is still possible. We can use auto bet to do other things and this can also prevent us from liking the game too much because we are not focusing on it but I doubt if many people are doing it. Playing passively is less fun you know.

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If you are not aiming for a quick way to earn, I mean if you don't have that wrong impressions into gambling.

Using the amount that you are willing to let go, sparing it for the sake of entertainment is something that wise gambler
is really capable, they can calculate and they can execute that kind of engagement without any fear of exceeding and
losing a lot of money, with the kind of setup addiction is also being catered, not allowing too much engagements and
exposure to gambling.

It is true.
Sports gamblers are the ones who are not mostly prone to gambling addiction because they are just logging in whenever an event will happen with their favorite sports. And, a human being can only handle less amount of sports to be more knowledgeable about it.
I love boxing, MMA, and basketball only, and adding more might get me confused about which sport a player/fighter will be. Sometimes I even mix MMA with boxing because of the entertainment that is happening right now mostly with Jake Paul challenging MMA fighters.
I tend to just wait for big events to come and in NBA the season ends so there's a long rest that will come after. I just play casino games when I feel bored but I don't really soak into it, just an hour of playing Keno or Crash, I already have a sored eye. Grin

I think those who believe they are near the addiction, they should just try to focus on sports betting instead, the fun is still there because of the thrill that will be added by betting for the favorite team.

This has a point. I rarely hear that someone is addicted in sports gambling. Most of the time, players get too much caught up with luck based games. Since luck based games such as slots and roulettes are not that complicated, it's much easier to access and play whenever and wherever. There's no need for an event to come up just to be able to play and bet. Unlike in sports betting wherein the gamblers have to wait a specific time frame in which the sports match will commence before they can make a bet. And with this being said, it's not going to be an everyday scenario for them which just basically puts them into lesser probability of getting addicted to gambling.

This depends on the gambler because, let's say, the gambler is fond of all sports, so he would possibly bet on all of them because there are everyday sports events or tournaments happening, so he can still get addicted. The same is true with e-sports, where there are everyday somewhat big events, celebrity match-ups, and local tournaments. As long as betting is involved, no matter if it is skill-based or luck-based, you can get addicted to it, and there is no exception.

Not really the case mate because even if let's say that the gambler is fond and knows a lot of sports compared to a regular sports bettor, there is still a big chance that he will not get addicted to it because knowing the sports doesn't also mean that he/she knows everyone playing behind it. So, that brings them back to square one where they will wait for the game/fight and will not be an everyday habit where they will spend a lot of time betting.

All depends on our interpretations, both of you have valid reason and that's your both position.

More on how you understand and how you take your responsibilities, you can choose to keep playing or keep on betting
or you can just wait for the best game or sport that you think you have better advantages. Some might continue to keep
betting and lead to addiction while some will not and continue to control and enjoy with their gambling activities.

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Quote from: milewilda on June 28, 2023, 05:05:51 PM

Quote from: n0ne on June 28, 2023, 01:00:56 AM

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You cant really say that sports betting cant really be able to create those addicted gamblers on which there are still who are addicted bettors too, it is really just that the result or outcome of getting wrecked isnt really that
on fast pacing unlike when you do play on a casino or fast pace kind or type of games on which you would be definitely be finding yourself that losing money on a very fast manner. Doesnt matter whether you are getting involved with sports or casinos which risks is always there. Gambling is for entertainment and if you do know on what you are doing and you are really setting out those limitation or moderation on how you would be spending things up then you are really just that fine or you would be considering yourself to be just fine. Speaking about investment and other similar ventures then it would really be according into you because
not all would really be that mindful in regard into this matter.

Indeed, the pace at which wins and losses occur varies between gambling forms. However, it's not necessarily the speed of the loss that fuels addiction. Persistent, slow losses can create a false illusion of mastery, enticing individuals into the mire of problem gambling. Indeed, gambling is seen as entertainment – the optimal circumstance. Yet, the line separating joy and dependency is delicate and often blurred, particularly without self-regulatory checks. On comparing gambling to investing, one must grasp their essential distinctions. Investment entails calculated risks, backed by market study and financial foresights. In contrast, gambling depends primarily on chance, where the house always holds an advantage

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 28, 2023, 01:33:12 AM

It's not how often that you gambles makes you remain safe in it, it's how serious and committed you're in doing other things while gambling and none is being affected, this also talks about being able to multitask, we know that not everyone can have upto this ability as expected but we can all try our best by adopting a safety measures, cautions and guides while gambling to help monitors the extent to the rate which we can go in gambling

Don't follow the multitude to do what they feel is right, rather take decisions and focus on what's works for you. Gamble less is centered around making critical decisions to discontinue gambling and focus on what's beneficial, we concentrate and focus on what is effective for us, it's not about functioning hard but putting in the commitment and consistency, because everything are going to come to prominence within a period of time. gambling while meeting the essential needs of other responsibilities is a well balanced a perspective of obtaining higher earnings from gambling without feeling any adverse repercussions.

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