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legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!

I have never been daytrading BTC. I sold in Nov-Dec and bought back in Feb, so my classification would be "swingtrading". Before and after that I had very little in exchanges. Of course as the price rises again, I'll have to figure out how to divest. I am open to suggestions from all lawful buyers who pay first, after the price crosses $3000.


Medium-term trading BTC makes the most sense, especially in a market where the moves are so extreme. Scalping and day trading is very exciting, but it's too hard to be prepared for the bigger moves when the focus is closing out both sides of many smaller trades.
donator
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Are you following your own example plan or are you still day trading like earlier this year and late last year?

I have never been daytrading BTC. I sold in Nov-Dec and bought back in Feb, so my classification would be "swingtrading". Before and after that I had very little in exchanges. Of course as the price rises again, I'll have to figure out how to divest. I am open to suggestions from all lawful buyers who pay first, after the price crosses $3000.

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I'm not against the plan you pose above, in fact I support it, but it is easier said than done when your motto is to diversify. Price upticks generally get people to sell.

Problem with people's natural instinct is that they sell in the meager upticks in the early part of the move and then don't sell when the price goes ballistic, which would be a good time to sell (with a plan).

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All in all, people who keep their funds on exchanges to attempt to scalp the markets will likely end up losing purely based on the single biggest security issue with that type of method, 3rd party risk.

I also lost BTC250 with Mt.Gox, and I am not proud of it since it was a losign proposition to start with. But that was still only a fraction of my gains made by swingtrading last winter.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!

Are you following your own example plan or are you still day trading like earlier this year and late last year?

I'm not against the plan you pose above, in fact I support it, but it is easier said than done when your motto is to diversify. Price upticks generally get people to sell.

I've diversified out of bitcoin enough to be fine with my gains even if Bitcoin went to zero.

But still have a good stake in it should it continue to the Milky Way.

All in all, people who keep their funds on exchanges to attempt to scalp the markets will likely end up losing purely based on the single biggest security issue with that type of method, 3rd party risk.

If you start with a small amount and slowly work up to over 1200% gains, then (after removing the original investment) it is impossible to "end up losing" due to 3rd party risk.  Smiley

I do what I do behind the curtain and I seek others who which to do the same.......................

I am very good at what I do, thank you.


From Kansas......"you perform behind the curtain"....who are you, the Wizard of Oz?
How's Toto and Dorthy doing these days?
Follow the Yellow Block Road  Cheesy
sr. member
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Are you following your own example plan or are you still day trading like earlier this year and late last year?

I'm not against the plan you pose above, in fact I support it, but it is easier said than done when your motto is to diversify. Price upticks generally get people to sell.

I've diversified out of bitcoin enough to be fine with my gains even if Bitcoin went to zero.

But still have a good stake in it should it continue to the Milky Way.

All in all, people who keep their funds on exchanges to attempt to scalp the markets will likely end up losing purely based on the single biggest security issue with that type of method, 3rd party risk.

If you start with a small amount and slowly work up to over 1200% gains, then (after removing the original investment) it is impossible to "end up losing" due to 3rd party risk.  Smiley

I do what I do behind the curtain and I seek others who which to do the same.......................

I am very good at what I do, thank you.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1040
A Great Time to Start Something!

Are you following your own example plan or are you still day trading like earlier this year and late last year?

I'm not against the plan you pose above, in fact I support it, but it is easier said than done when your motto is to diversify. Price upticks generally get people to sell.

I've diversified out of bitcoin enough to be fine with my gains even if Bitcoin went to zero.

But still have a good stake in it should it continue to the Milky Way.

All in all, people who keep their funds on exchanges to attempt to scalp the markets will likely end up losing purely based on the single biggest security issue with that type of method, 3rd party risk.

If you start with a small amount and slowly work up to over 1200% gains, then (after removing the original investment) it is impossible to "end up losing" due to 3rd party risk.  Smiley
sr. member
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It's like "just shut up and hodl"

Well, yeah but you also might do a little day trading with part of your stock of BTC.

If i tried day trading I would be broke. My gambling skills are about the same. I just look for prudent and safe investments.

Then you are doing exactly what you should be doing and do not feel in any way bad about your position.

Harry Callahan said:

" A man's GOT to know his limitations."

Do what you do and do it well.

You will be both happy and successful.

Thanks! This forum has been a huge help in finding those investments as well. I take more of a buy and grow ap

"Chance the Gardener: Yes. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again."



Ah Being There! I still think Forrest Gump was sort of a rip off of that book. 

Naw, Forrest is a different breed of cat but nevertheless fits right in.

Don't worry.

Be happy.
sr. member
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It's like "just shut up and hodl"

Well, yeah but you also might do a little day trading with part of your stock of BTC.

If i tried day trading I would be broke. My gambling skills are about the same. I just look for prudent and safe investments.

Then you are doing exactly what you should be doing and do not feel in any way bad about your position.

Harry Callahan said:

" A man's GOT to know his limitations."

Do what you do and do it well.

You will be both happy and successful.

Thanks! This forum has been a huge help in finding those investments as well. I take more of a buy and grow ap

"Chance the Gardener: Yes. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again."



Ah Being There! I still think Forrest Gump was sort of a rip off of that book. 
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
It's like "just shut up and hodl"

Well, yeah but you also might do a little day trading with part of your stock of BTC.

If i tried day trading I would be broke. My gambling skills are about the same. I just look for prudent and safe investments.

Then you are doing exactly what you should be doing and do not feel in any way bad about your position.

Harry Callahan said:

" A man's GOT to know his limitations."

Do what you do and do it well.

You will be both happy and successful.

Thanks! This forum has been a huge help in finding those investments as well. I take more of a buy and grow ap

"Chance the Gardener: Yes. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again."

sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
It's like "just shut up and hodl"

Well, yeah but you also might do a little day trading with part of your stock of BTC.

If i tried day trading I would be broke. My gambling skills are about the same. I just look for prudent and safe investments.

Then you are doing exactly what you should be doing and do not feel in any way bad about your position.

Harry Callahan said:

" A man's GOT to know his limitations."

Do what you do and do it well.

You will be both happy and successful.

Thanks! This forum has been a huge help in finding those investments as well. I take more of a buy and grow approach as opposed to the buy and hold approach.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
It's like "just shut up and hodl"

Well, yeah but you also might do a little day trading with part of your stock of BTC.

If i tried day trading I would be broke. My gambling skills are about the same. I just look for prudent and safe investments.

Then you are doing exactly what you should be doing and do not feel in any way bad about your position.

Harry Callahan said:

" A man's GOT to know his limitations."

Do what you do and do it well.

You will be both happy and successful.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
It's like "just shut up and hodl"

Well, yeah but you also might do a little day trading with part of your stock of BTC.

If i tried day trading I would be broke. My gambling skills are about the same. I just look for prudent and safe investments.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
It's like "just shut up and hodl"

Well, yeah but you also might do a little day trading with part of your stock of BTC.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
It's like "just shut up and hodl"
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper

One of my favorite quotes ever posted on this forum is on page 1 from billyjoeallen:

"I don't care about the busts. I am riding this pig wherever it takes me. If it tanks, I'll have a helluva story to tell. I'm sick of half measures. I'm swinging for the fences and If I strike out, so be it.  I won't be some mediocre drone living a life of quiet desperation. I believe in bitcoin and I'm going for broke, knowing the risks."

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.169810

Awesome. Thanks for pointing that one out.

It is admirable that some go all-in but at this point with most of us having 1000% or more gains behind, starting to diversify is generally a prudent strategy. It develops you as a person when you have to deal with the outside world Smiley

I have been advocating selling 65-90% of what your top stash has been, methodically in our way to $1,000,000. After that there is no reason to "sell" any more as BTC will be a world currency. I believe that this is still the reasonable approach for most:

- Buy as many bitcoins as you want
- Wait 3 months
- Start selling a set percentage of the stash every time the price goes up X%, set the schedule such that you will still have a lot at $1M
- Do not sell or buy at the dips (<- traders can do what they want but most people do better by my method)

More discussion in the SSS thread
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Are you following your own example plan or are you still day trading like earlier this year and late last year?

I'm not against the plan you pose above, in fact I support it, but it is easier said than done when your motto is to diversify. Price upticks generally get people to sell.

I've diversified out of bitcoin enough to be fine with my gains even if Bitcoin went to zero.

But still have a good stake in it should it continue to the Milky Way.

All in all, people who keep their funds on exchanges to attempt to scalp the markets will likely end up losing purely based on the single biggest security issue with that type of method, 3rd party risk.
full member
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ok I am on page 75 and hope I am lucky and I can invest more into BTC in the near future... just don't have much fund to do it right now Sad
hero member
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Stephen Reed
Too late to the game? I hope not, I'm just starting to hold BTC now in addition to using it for purchases when I can.

Not much to say except 'hello!' as I enter on page 75 and look forward to more conversation in the future.

Come back at least once a year to check in. The price today is $664.11 per bitcoin.
sr. member
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Too late to the game? I hope not, I'm just starting to hold BTC now in addition to using it for purchases when I can.

Not much to say except 'hello!' as I enter on page 75 and look forward to more conversation in the future.
sr. member
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The smart ones will never touch the principle, and only spend the investment income that is left over after a certain level of reinvestment required to keep investment income growing with (real) inflation. You actually need quite a bit of money to do this.

There will probably not be any investment income from holding bitcoins in the near future. The rate of deflation is simply too high for anyone to pay back a loan in bitcoins. This one way that Bitcoin upsets the old paradigm. You actually must spend part of the principal, if you are not earning bitcoin from rents or a salary.

See the (SSS) - A Sane and Simple bitcoin Savings plan.

Starting a successful business might be the only way to grow your bit coin wealth at that point. This new system really shatters old paradigms.
hero member
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Stephen Reed
The smart ones will never touch the principle, and only spend the investment income that is left over after a certain level of reinvestment required to keep investment income growing with (real) inflation. You actually need quite a bit of money to do this.

There will probably not be any investment income from holding bitcoins in the near future. The rate of deflation is simply too high for anyone to pay back a loan in bitcoins. This one way that Bitcoin upsets the old paradigm. You actually must spend part of the principal, if you are not earning bitcoin from rents or a salary.

See the (SSS) - A Sane and Simple bitcoin Savings plan.
sr. member
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even if i were ultrawealthy, i don't know if i could live it up quite like a few of you guys would do it. i'd probably just have a normal sized house, and the only luxurious thing i would have is maybe a tesla.. the $40k model  Cheesy

The smart ones will never touch the principle, and only spend the investment income that is left over after a certain level of reinvestment required to keep investment income growing with (real) inflation. You actually need quite a bit of money to do this.

Real wealth buys someone time and freedom from having to work ever again, which frees one to pursue interests and life endeavors as they come and go. Time is the measure of wealth, not houses, cars, vacations, etc.

well, if your intention in life is to "live it up," that could be a problem.. and i'm thinking a lot of people are like that. especially when they feel like their money wasn't earned.
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