I became a victim of the fraud - page 2.

Satosho Kakamolto

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Quote from: AmaliaApple on April 27, 2018, 09:48:50 AM

Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

I'm having some trouble understanding your story.

Someone who owns you money sends you 4.5k through a "friend"(?) to you, in fiat(?) your supervisor tells you to convert the fiat(?) to bitcoin, which you did using the bitcoin shop(?)?

Where do you have the bitcoins now? Can't you use an exchange such as bitstamp to convert the bitcoin back to EUR and send the euros back to the bank account of the "friend"(?) that send the money to you in the first place?

So I am not the only one who doesn't understand this story. I am puzzled that everybody is seemingly understanding what has happened.

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Quote from: rafaelyarulin on May 01, 2018, 04:07:41 AM

What happened I realized, but how happened I did not fully understand. Who are you looking for??? ... If all that you wrote is true, take a lesson and go on with life. Good luck!

I really hope he could actually come back to tell us how his case finally ended up. Well, that if he is not in a prison yet for doing such a dumb and absurd thing because I totally see that as huge level of carelessness.

No matter what, he should not have done that without an official written statement directly from the supervisor since that has never been the main protocol right from time. This is obviously going to be long gone as he would not have any case on the supervisor if the supervisor's intention is actually to scam as he can easily deny that even happened.

Scammers are everywhere so we need to be careful with our money always even there are lot of frauds happening with the fiat money transaction in the loan field of my country but the victims are innocent normal workers.That is why escrows are important in the crypto transaction while doing big trades.

Everywhere there are a lot of scammers who are in search of those foolish people who don’t save their bitcoin as safe as it should be, we need to be careful most of time we lose money on opening all kind of sites most of them makes fakes sites to make innocent people fool and fraud with them so instead of blaming other for scamming us and crying over spit milk better to be careful at the beginning.

The cryptocurrency market has a lot of pitfalls and investors have to be cautious if they do not want to be a prey to hackers and hackers. The security and carefulness in finding information on the internet to limit the risk of virus infection.

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Quote from: MascharonoM on July 13, 2018, 04:41:01 AM

You should find out the right project before investing. If you can do that then of course you'll get paid not fall in danger. There have some good projects in the market as far as I know. You can try with SciDex. Looks promising and reliable.

First you should check the right thread to make the posts mate. I see you have bumped the dead thread unwantely none of the DT and moderators want these kind of the things to happen. I see another thread of Tyrantt also bumped here.
If you want to get the more money please review the project details, team information and Wp. If you find all good.
Then you can go with investing on the concern project mate.

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You should find out the right project before investing. If you can do that then of course you'll get paid not fall in danger. There have some good projects in the market as far as I know. You can try with SciDex. Looks promising and reliable.

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this is really a bad situation.. this is actually your customer problem not yours.. you have done your work by sending amount

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on June 07, 2018, 05:30:25 AM

Quote from: davinchi on June 07, 2018, 01:55:27 AM

Quote from: rafaelyarulin on May 01, 2018, 04:07:41 AM

What happened I realized, but how happened I did not fully understand. Who are you looking for??? ... If all that you wrote is true, take a lesson and go on with life. Good luck!

I really hope he could actually come back to tell us how his case finally ended up. Well, that if he is not in a prison yet for doing such a dumb and absurd thing because I totally see that as huge level of carelessness.

No matter what, he should not have done that without an official written statement directly from the supervisor since that has never been the main protocol right from time. This is obviously going to be long gone as he would not have any case on the supervisor if the supervisor's intention is actually to scam as he can easily deny that even happened.

Scammers are everywhere so we need to be careful with our money always even there are lot of frauds happening with the fiat money transaction in the loan field of my country but the victims are innocent normal workers.That is why escrows are important in the crypto transaction while doing big trades.

Everywhere there are a lot of scammers who are in search of those foolish people who don’t save their bitcoin as safe as it should be, we need to be careful most of time we lose money on opening all kind of sites most of them makes fakes sites to make innocent people fool and fraud with them so instead of blaming other for scamming us and crying over spit milk better to be careful at the beginning.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on June 07, 2018, 05:30:25 AM

Quote from: davinchi on June 07, 2018, 01:55:27 AM

Quote from: rafaelyarulin on May 01, 2018, 04:07:41 AM

What happened I realized, but how happened I did not fully understand. Who are you looking for??? ... If all that you wrote is true, take a lesson and go on with life. Good luck!

I really hope he could actually come back to tell us how his case finally ended up. Well, that if he is not in a prison yet for doing such a dumb and absurd thing because I totally see that as huge level of carelessness.

No matter what, he should not have done that without an official written statement directly from the supervisor since that has never been the main protocol right from time. This is obviously going to be long gone as he would not have any case on the supervisor if the supervisor's intention is actually to scam as he can easily deny that even happened.

Scammers are everywhere so we need to be careful with our money always even there are lot of frauds happening with the fiat money transaction in the loan field of my country but the victims are innocent normal workers.That is why escrows are important in the crypto transaction while doing big trades.

You cannot be careful without any proof for the payment and no middle man. If you have any trusted person like Ognasty as the escrow you will be not getting any trouble in your payment or anything. I have many people just do the payment without safety with the newbie guys.
Whenever I have the trade I use to call the Neotax to be part of it. So I did not get any scammed bro.

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Quote from: davinchi on June 07, 2018, 01:55:27 AM

Quote from: rafaelyarulin on May 01, 2018, 04:07:41 AM

What happened I realized, but how happened I did not fully understand. Who are you looking for??? ... If all that you wrote is true, take a lesson and go on with life. Good luck!

I really hope he could actually come back to tell us how his case finally ended up. Well, that if he is not in a prison yet for doing such a dumb and absurd thing because I totally see that as huge level of carelessness.

No matter what, he should not have done that without an official written statement directly from the supervisor since that has never been the main protocol right from time. This is obviously going to be long gone as he would not have any case on the supervisor if the supervisor's intention is actually to scam as he can easily deny that even happened.

Scammers are everywhere so we need to be careful with our money always even there are lot of frauds happening with the fiat money transaction in the loan field of my country but the victims are innocent normal workers.That is why escrows are important in the crypto transaction while doing big trades.

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Quote from: Agrabah on May 02, 2018, 11:37:30 PM

Sincerely with sympathy,continue to be careful.Give the Bank and the police evidence proving that you're the victim here.

Where is he going to get the evidence from? With the way it is, the supervisor could have actually been able to find a way to cover his own tracks and it could be a plan to set him up for his own scam.

He should have at least asked questions before making such a decision in the first place and unless the supervisor made some conversation with him in written form that is going to be traceable to him, then he is so screwed already and from my assumption, the reason he is not giving us feedback now is because court case have finally sent him to a jailed term.

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Quote from: rafaelyarulin on May 01, 2018, 04:07:41 AM

What happened I realized, but how happened I did not fully understand. Who are you looking for??? ... If all that you wrote is true, take a lesson and go on with life. Good luck!

I really hope he could actually come back to tell us how his case finally ended up. Well, that if he is not in a prison yet for doing such a dumb and absurd thing because I totally see that as huge level of carelessness.

No matter what, he should not have done that without an official written statement directly from the supervisor since that has never been the main protocol right from time. This is obviously going to be long gone as he would not have any case on the supervisor if the supervisor's intention is actually to scam as he can easily deny that even happened.

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This is big. How on earth will your supervisor ask you to send money that belong to the company to be a bitcoin wallet in the first place and you did not see that as something that you should suspect?

Yes, he may have the intention of using the funds increase in value to make some additional bucks at the detriment of your own job since you obviously will not have anything to proof that you actually sent it to him unless you had some official email communication you can make available to proof that you he actually requested you to take that action. Sorry bro, you have a big case in your hand.

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As each and every activity happens through the interlinked internet connectivity the chances of getting into traps were big. We need to be more cautious in this activities. Possibly, should make use of the chances available to keep ourselves away from scammers and other fraudulents.

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Quote from: the13thsymphony on May 22, 2018, 11:23:11 PM

It is sad to see that cryptocurrency is being used to scam people and put the blame to people who are working diligently. This just like one of the new that I have heard in tge Philippines where they used BTC to scam millions worth of fiat by using an MLM type of scheme. Based on your story it seems like it was your supervisors advise to put it in the BTC wallet so it can be part of his/her ploy to put the blame to you. I am just speculating thing but It would need to be further investigated by your company and hopefully your name will be cleared.

The Philippine case is different though, its a Ponzi scheme and the culprit was caught. In the OP's case, it looks like he/she was really used as a sort of middleman to broker something and worst is that he/she is totally compromise, As we have noticed, he/she didn't reply so it only means one thing. He/she is out of the job, his personal data compromise and worst part is that is involves a lot of money (4,500 euros). Hope though that he/she is ok and has since move on.

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Quote from: normensky012 on April 29, 2018, 12:51:07 PM

I hope you don't get fired for this. If you have the private key to the wallet address then you will able to control where or when to send it or exchange it, but when you just did send it to an address that you don't possess the keys. Then you are in big trouble.

That is if he has not been fired yet looking at the time he posted this and now. That is a huge amount of money and he was really dumb to fall for such a thing sending such an amount in bitcoin to a supervisor that he possibly cannot trace. However, what I do not understand is that how did they converse ? Was it via email, phone call or SMS ?

If it was phone call, then he is really screwed but one way or the other, I believe the supervisor should have at least sent the bitcoin wallet address via email or something, and if he did not use an official number, then he is even more screwed !

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It is sad to see that cryptocurrency is being used to scam people and put the blame to people who are working diligently. This just like one of the new that I have heard in tge Philippines where they used BTC to scam millions worth of fiat by using an MLM type of scheme. Based on your story it seems like it was your supervisors advise to put it in the BTC wallet so it can be part of his/her ploy to put the blame to you. I am just speculating thing but It would need to be further investigated by your company and hopefully your name will be cleared.

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Quote from: jetjet on May 22, 2018, 05:16:37 AM

Quote from: AmaliaApple on April 27, 2018, 09:48:50 AM

Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

why worry buddy? if you put that money into bitcoin then convert it back to fiat... if you place that money when btc price has drop to 7k then you are lucky to have a profit by now... open your wallet send the coin to exhange and convert to fiat and send it to your bank account... thats very simple.

Today actually you can see the bitcoin price dumped little cheaper in the market mate. If you look to invest your fiat cash on the cryptocurrencies that will be work better than exchange the btc to fiat now.
There are many people had been a victim over the exchange and somewhere scammed in the forum mas well.
We need to check the people before we deal with them else at least we need to have escrow for it.

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Quote from: jetjet on May 22, 2018, 05:16:37 AM

Quote from: AmaliaApple on April 27, 2018, 09:48:50 AM

Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

why worry buddy? if you put that money into bitcoin then convert it back to fiat... if you place that money when btc price has drop to 7k then you are lucky to have a profit by now... open your wallet send the coin to exhange and convert to fiat and send it to your bank account... thats very simple.

There is simply no way he can convert the money he sent to someone else's bitcoin address to fiat when he does not have any access to that wallet. The issue now is that, it is either the supervisor purposely scammed him to make him fall for it, which is what I am assuming now, and God save him that is not the case. He is simply at the mercy of his supervisor now, because the fund sent can only be traceable to him, and if there is no official conversation between him and the supervisor, I am wondering how is going to be proving himself of his innocence in this matter.

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You are really on the hot sit my friend but one mistake you did is to use personal thins on your work like using your own personal account when engaging on money, and that is a very big no when you are working under the finance department, since it will create a confusing in the future.

But don't panic, it is basic to say that the only person who has the authority to get the money back is the person who send you the money!!
But, there always a but! If the bank call you and the person who gave you the money is not calling you then just relax your safe you don;t need to panic wait for their email and say what I have said, but if the both parties are saying they want the money back then don't immediate give it to them! Look for a letter why they want the money back, don't give them because they say so, they can not send you to police either since they don't have the request or proper procedure on having the money back.

Chill, life is easy, but for the meantime print some of the transaction copy of the money transfer as back up to defend yourself.

Let me know if you solve it.

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Quote from: AmaliaApple on April 27, 2018, 09:48:50 AM

Hello everyone, I hope I will not be banned for this.

In general, I became a victim of fraud and this is due to bitcoin wallet. I'll tell you from the very beginning.

I got a job in one office, which deals with money loans. My task was to communicate with debtors and for every payment I had to receive 5%. One debtor asked his supposed friend to make a transfer to my account. My supervisor approved this and said that I hsve to take this amount and put on a bitcoin wallet. Today I got a call from the bank and said that the person who sent the money requires them back, but I already sent them. My supervisor does not answer me, the bank was told that they will contact me when the main office processes all the information that I gave them about the company and in general. In the bitcoin shop, I was told that money can not be returned if you have only a QR code of your wallet and an address. I do not have that amount to return that person (4,500 euros)

How can I return this money back? To hack this account or something like that. If someone does this, or knows someone who does this, I will be grateful for any information.

why worry buddy? if you put that money into bitcoin then convert it back to fiat... if you place that money when btc price has drop to 7k then you are lucky to have a profit by now... open your wallet send the coin to exhange and convert to fiat and send it to your bank account... thats very simple.

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