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Topic: I bought Apple stock because iPhones are garbage. (Read 431 times)

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First of all I am an Android user too cause I don't like the user experience of IOS and we need to take lot of work to do simple things on IOS compared to Android but Apple devices are known for their performances too apart from camera because the hardware designed specifically for the IOS so it performs well along with efficient but that doesn't worth $1000 but people are going after it just for the brand so there is nothing wrong with investing in their stocks but I don't expect it to grow a lot further like Tesla or something.
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Well that’s because the Apple ecosystem has been made that way. You get many benefits and whatever you have mentioned are just little cons and that too associated with the prices as such. The cost is all about the branding and security. They are proven to be far secured as compared to the androids. No one can really beat the security of Apple I believe. When you enter the ecosystem of Apple no one can beat the easiness of Apple.

In your post I’m also looking for the stock purchasing answer. If you are not positive about the Apple then why did you buy them in first place.
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It all depends on the user whether or not you have the right tools and applications for the specific things that you are doing. They are definitely at the ends of the spectrum and most of the time they are within their reasons and it's with the ecosystem that it has. I have an iPhone and that's my daily phone but I'm planning to get an Android as well and have both of them being used together.

It's all in your choice and the system that you want. I don't think it's garbage though.
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There are a lot of factors that go into the decision to buy an Iphone.

1. The is going to be higher than the price of the phone.
2. The phone is going to be used for long periods of time.
3. The phone is going to be in a brand new model.
4. The phone is going to be a smart phone.
5. The phone is going to be compatible with the hardware and software that you have.
6. The phone ideo calls.
7. The phone is going to be good for voice calls.
8. The phone is going to be good for GPS/G
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I know people with low incomes that finance the Iphone for 24 months and when the new one comes out they go to get it by refinancing (although they also get a discount for returning the old one).

Apple has managed with the Iphones to sell an idea of status or prestige that has no justification in the quality of the product, but in the faith that their followers have in them.

Therefore, I think it will continue to be a very good business for many years to come.

I know similar people like that as well, they don't have a lot of money and still they will buy the new Iphone every 2 years. Which is insane in my opinion, why would you cut back on your monthly expenses by eating crappier food, don't go out so much anymore and only buy the cheapest clothes, with the whole purpose of having the newest phone? It makes no sense to me as all the components in the older Iphone are still fine and can be used. It would be no problem to run around with a 4 year old Iphone if there wasn't the whole prestige thing with it. As for buying Apple stocks I never considered purchasing some myself. I do own some as part of the ETFs, all the stock indices from North America will include some Apple stocks. Not sure though if it's a good time to buy now. In general Apple is a well established company with stores all around the world, so it's a decent investment. It's just that the stock price is quite close to it's 52 week at the moment, maybe it would have been better to buy the stocks earlier during the crisis last year, or wait for the price to drop a bit again.
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Here in our country, the apple or iphone14 brand can be said to be a luxury and not user friendly. The others are just buying because they are just going along with the current trend. When it comes to performance, I still prefer to use the Samsung brand whose value is 300$ and up and Huawei. But I will never buy an iphone apart from being very expensive it is not practical for my opinion and opinion.
But for others, it is their collection because they can afford to buy it.
I think Apple phones are user friendly but Android is the one that is more complex. This is why there are lot's of modifications available for the Android than in IOS although yes they are not budget friendly unless only if you are buying a second hand model because some of them are cheap and it is still negotiable.

Average people even the poors are buying iPhones because they want to look expensive but they don't know that they can still be classified as a poor through their gestures. You have a good budget on buying a smart phone BTW. I wouldn't consider 300 USD as a small amount of money although it won't still be enough to buy a brand new latest iPhone.
legendary
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Apple users know that Apple products are not the best but they buy them anyway. I think they are more interested in the prestige of owning a iPhone, a MacBook or a series watch, we like luxurious things and love to show them off and Apple has projected itself as the product that’s used by the upper echelons of society.

Lol. That's what I was talking about. The prestige of buying something that people earning minimum wage can buy by paying it in installments.

If we talk about the espionage that Apple is conducting, then this exceeds all norms of human decency. It intervenes wherever possible, justifying surveillance on the grounds that the company is concerned about the user's safety.

In general, carrying a cell phone in our pocket takes away quite a bit of privacy, but I think Apple is the most anti-privacy of all mobile companies.

While it's interesting to see the outcome of your experiment, it is curious that you'd waste whatever large sum it cost you for an iPhone in order to figure these things out. Maybe asking a friend and having a little play around could have come up with the same thoughts, but you might have a lot more free cash that makes this acceptable. means little.

Man, you can imagine that it has not been a problem for me to pay for it in cash. If you saw my posts in which I talk about personal finances, it's been a long time since I've had consumer debts and it's also been a long time since I've been constantly investing. From time to time I also splurge, as in this case.

If I were you, I would buy an iPhone 14 pro instea of just 14, just saying.

Why? After the disappointment I don't think it's worth it, I think I could have bought the Iphone 13 or 12 and I wouldn't have noticed the difference.

The arguments that iPhone users do that iPhone is better than Android are totally baseless and some of them even know it.

Lol. It's just like that. What's important is the Apple on the back of your phone.

I'm not a fan of Apple stock, but I do like the idea of a smartphone that can be used as a store of value. .

This is an idea that Apple users buy into that I'm not convinced by: that Iphones have a higher resale value than Android. Although it is true, I think it does not justify the price premium and in the end it is a liability that depreciates over time.
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It is indeed a good thing to buy something because you will have to wait and see what the price is after you try to make money when Apple and other big Apple businesses are doing well, and if you are not patient to buy it right now, you can try the old phone, or Iphone, because I'm not a huge Apple fan, and I don't see any reason to get an Iphone, but that's all. I think we are at the beginning of a new era wherein Apple has made from Apple and will continue to make an important purchase decision, for now, it's going to be important, as you could argue with the point of the current Apple-Apple business model, that it has succeeded in this way. You can also argue that Apple has also had success in this way, but I don't see any reason for them to abandon Apple and leave all Apple users to Apple.
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I'm not a fan of Apple stock, but I do like the idea of a smartphone that can be used as a store of value. It's good to have a stock that is cheap, but not as good as it is right now.
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This is what I mean, Iphone purchases are usually more emotional than rational, almost of faith I would say. A lot of people expectantly awaiting the unveiling of each new Iphone and lining up to buy it when the reality is that it's a little less shitty than the last one and that a $300 Android works just as well if not better.

It is also a way of trying to appear status, in a crude way, because if you have a Ferrari you are seen with status but almost nobody can afford it. On the other hand, people with very low income believe that with the apple on the back of the phone they look like they have a certain status or prestige.
It is this emotion that often gets people into trouble because they are unable to assess their needs and are more concerned with lifestyle. Nowadays our life is like pretending and a little more joking, just imagine the need to buy an iPhone is not something urgent, but people are competing to have this product, even though the usage for the $300 Android class is far more optimal because there are also features needed by the ordinary user class.

It is this kind of prestige that makes people lose the opportunity to live in peace and are indirectly forced to fulfill a lifestyle that ultimately suffers from having to take out a loan. This rude way of showing status to others is sometimes confusing and makes no sense to me at all.
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I bought the Iphone 14, paid in cash, without insurance or shit, and after a few weeks of use, the only thing I see better than Android is the camera. The operating system sucks, and has disadvantages like it sucks to copy and paste conversations on Whatsapp, or not being able to edit a word you are writing when you see that you made a mistake in a letter without deleting the whole word. The swype keyboard sucks. The same for phone numbers: if you make a mistake while typing or you copy and paste a phone number and you want to add the international prefix, you can't do it, you have to delete the whole number and write it again without the error or with the prefix at the beginning, depending on the case. 

In the end, I think it's at the very least equal to, if not worse than any $300 Android, which I came to the conclusion that if Apple has managed to sell shit at a gold price, I wanted to be part of the deal and have bought Apple stock.

I know people with low incomes that finance the Iphone for 24 months and when the new one comes out they go to get it by refinancing (although they also get a discount for returning the old one).
The arguments that iPhone users do that iPhone is better than Android are totally baseless and some of them even know it. I've seen a lot of people who understand that in terms of general use, Android is much better than the iPhone, but they use iPhone only for the standard that has been made by the world and the status it beholds.

I've personally never used iPhone and that's not because I can't afford to but it's because I know that it's garbage and it will limit my usage abilities and I don't want that to happen. I don't just want to hold the status of being an iPhone user while I can't even do basic stuff with it.
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Your comparison of the two operating systems and your experience migrating from an Android to an iPhone are interesting to hear. Although both Android and iOS have benefits and drawbacks, the decision of which to use ultimately comes down to personal preference and what works best for each person.

It's also important to keep in mind that elements other than a product's technical attributes can affect how valuable people consider it to be. Apple has been successful in establishing a brand image that is linked to exclusivity, luxury, and status, which has enabled them to build a loyal customer base and charge a high price for their goods.

Although it is also true that Apple products are more expensive than those from other brands, this does not necessarily mean that they are of higher quality or performance.

The choice of which phone to use is ultimately a personal one that should be based on what best suits your needs and tastes. It's nice to hear that your investment in Apple stock has been profitable, and it's always a good idea to conduct your own research and make well-informed investment selections.
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You are really thorough in this matter, even some people like me don't know how skilled they are about electronic goods, so it's really worth investing in. What's more, maybe I don't really care about the trend of cellphones, which are getting more and more updated every day, so that it increases interest in investing. And so far my view of electronic goods, especially cellphones, is only limited to communication tools, nothing more than that. Even I hold an android phone that is outdated but decent to use and can still support my daily needs.

But if the context is like you who are this detailed in the purchase, it feels like it goes back to how much we need it and how important the cellphone is to reach for something more than just communication.
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So, I had been an Android user for a long time, specifically a high-end Samsung, except once when I got a Huawei or Xiaomi as a present, I don't remember.

I recently decided to buy an Iphone to see for myself what was good about it and compare it with Android, because I had seen eternal debates on the internet and I preferred to decide for myself.

I bought the Iphone 14, paid in cash, without insurance or shit, and after a few weeks of use, the only thing I see better than Android is the camera. The operating system sucks, and has disadvantages like it sucks to copy and paste conversations on Whatsapp, or not being able to edit a word you are writing when you see that you made a mistake in a letter without deleting the whole word. The swype keyboard sucks. The same for phone numbers: if you make a mistake while typing or you copy and paste a phone number and you want to add the international prefix, you can't do it, you have to delete the whole number and write it again without the error or with the prefix at the beginning, depending on the case. 

In the end, I think it's at the very least equal to, if not worse than any $300 Android, which I came to the conclusion that if Apple has managed to sell shit at a gold price, I wanted to be part of the deal and have bought Apple stock.

I know people with low incomes that finance the Iphone for 24 months and when the new one comes out they go to get it by refinancing (although they also get a discount for returning the old one).

Apple has managed with the Iphones to sell an idea of status or prestige that has no justification in the quality of the product, but in the faith that their followers have in them.

Therefore, I think it will continue to be a very good business for many years to come.
Investing in Apple inc is somehow good, they have good branding, they are already dominating the market for so long they also have a decade of services and proven track record so you can assure that in any situation apple can have their own strategy once things go wrong and market falls. Apple is a good brand and many business trust Apple.
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the only thing I see better than Android is the camera. The operating system sucks, and has disadvantages like it sucks to copy and paste conversations on Whatsapp, or not being able to edit a word you are writing when you see that you made a mistake in a letter without deleting the whole word. The swype keyboard sucks. ~

Quite subjective since those things you mentioned are rather on the UX side, maybe you will get used as soon as you use it regularly. As for editing a word, most document applications should be able to set the cursor to a specific part of the word so you didn't have to delete the whole one.

In the end, I think it's at the very least equal to, if not worse than any $300 Android, which I came to the conclusion that if Apple has managed to sell shit at a gold price, I wanted to be part of the deal and have bought Apple stock.

I know people with low incomes that finance the Iphone for 24 months and when the new one comes out they go to get it by refinancing (although they also get a discount for returning the old one).

Apple has managed with the Iphones to sell an idea of status or prestige that has no justification in the quality of the product, but in the faith that their followers have in them.

I could not agree more that they have prestigious branding. It is also worth mentioning the Apple tax. Apple is known to set strict boundaries within their ecosystem, fortunately, the recent EU regulation makes them allow sideload/install applications from outside of Apple sources. That kind of enforcement is a good thing to minimize the monopolies they have gotten.
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I would say it's sort of a non conventional way of thinking, even investors don't think like this. Most of the investors, invest in products and solutions which they feel are groundbreaking or have even solved problems in their own lives. Here I feel you are feeling that the product or the solution is a complete shit but the story that the product tells is good, which is why Apple is running nicely. I somehow agree with the story part, but will tell you one thing for sure. If a product is not worthy and only sells due to story telling, the company surely doesn't has a good future ahead so beware while investing.

It can't be about the story telling only. I doubt that the Apple products are worth as much as they actually are, but I have been an Apple user for a long time and apart from the fact that any necessary repairs are extremely expensive, I got stuff replaced for free most of the time. Their service has been pretty strong for me personally and they are quick to help. The only thing that is really a pain in the ass is the material smartphone producers use for their displays. I am sure they could be using material that can't get broken as easily. That was probably the biggest issue I had with my iPhones. But in general I think the devices are highly reliable. Never had a phone dying out of a sudden or anything like that.

Now this is no safe bet per se, but Apple is also sitting on 200 billion USD in cash. Their ability to undertake major investments in R&D and to pay huge dividends for quite some time to come is probably a big pro from an investor's point of view.
The prime cost or the ex factory cost of Apple might not look that high and this makes it look very expensive. But if you see Apple is a heavy investor on it's new Technology as well. Also both it's opex and capex in terms of R&D is very high. I heard they even patented the technology of self healing screens which obviously could be a ground breaker. It would like increasing average phone lives by 1-2 years. But obviously apple Knows it's like hitting your on feet with an axe because eventually it's killing it's repeat customers so this would mean initial product would Cost much much higher as well. So obviously it might not be worth the price based on factory cost but overall cost of Apple per phone is still too high.
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I also an android user for couple decade now if I had money I would surely buy an high end android like Google Phone or Samsung or even Xiaomi Flagship.

In my country iPhone is like the god of phone many of them praise it no doubt the camera is good but the other things is good at android The only problem with android is they don't have the ecosystem or lack of it.

and in the other hand iPhone is crazy expensive and in my opinion iPhone is one of luxurious brand out there. But if you are an apple boy you will probably debating me but that is okay world is full of it hahaha
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So, I had been an Android user for a long time, specifically a high-end Samsung, except once when I got a Huawei or Xiaomi as a present, I don't remember.

I recently decided to buy an Iphone to see for myself what was good about it and compare it with Android, because I had seen eternal debates on the internet and I preferred to decide for myself.

I bought the Iphone 14, paid in cash, without insurance or shit, and after a few weeks of use, the only thing I see better than Android is the camera. The operating system sucks, and has disadvantages like it sucks to copy and paste conversations on Whatsapp, or not being able to edit a word you are writing when you see that you made a mistake in a letter without deleting the whole word. The swype keyboard sucks. The same for phone numbers: if you make a mistake while typing or you copy and paste a phone number and you want to add the international prefix, you can't do it, you have to delete the whole number and write it again without the error or with the prefix at the beginning, depending on the case. 

In the end, I think it's at the very least equal to, if not worse than any $300 Android, which I came to the conclusion that if Apple has managed to sell shit at a gold price, I wanted to be part of the deal and have bought Apple stock.

I know people with low incomes that finance the Iphone for 24 months and when the new one comes out they go to get it by refinancing (although they also get a discount for returning the old one).

Apple has managed with the Iphones to sell an idea of status or prestige that has no justification in the quality of the product, but in the faith that their followers have in them.

Therefore, I think it will continue to be a very good business for many years to come.
If I were you, I would buy an iPhone 14 pro instea of just 14, just saying.
By the way, Apple has an amazing marketing strategy unlikely Samsung, Xiaomi and other companies. Apple just builds one model of smartphone per year, while Samsung builds tons of smartphones with different price range, for low-income to high-income people but apple only creates one for high-income people that is often bought by low-income people, do you understand how amazingly well they are doing? You create a product for rich people but because it's for rich and poor wants to look like a rich, poor are the main income sources.
Also, Apple products have a very lightweight, easy and simple user interface, you just need to adapt because yeah, it's hard to move from android to iPhone overnight. Personally, I enjoy operating system that offers me a lot of features and options, I don't like simple UI but you know, me and you aren't their target, the whole population is their target and in order to increase sales, you must meet demand of average person and the highest % of population.

99% of people who buy Apple smartphones, don't actually need it. I bet 99% of iPhone users don't really use its full potential and their mostly used apps are Camera, Instagram, Facebook and TikTok.

Just have a look at Balenciaga, Gucci clothes. Wait, are they more fashionable than Pull & Bear? Hell no, they look worse but you know, people can't judge. If there are 15 people and 10 thinks that shit is cool, then 3 more people will find shit cool.

In the world were Liver King has millions of subscribers and followers, it's clear to see how Fckd we are.
legendary
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So, I had been an Android user for a long time, specifically a high-end Samsung, except once when I got a Huawei or Xiaomi as a present, I don't remember.

I recently decided to buy an Iphone to see for myself what was good about it and compare it with Android, because I had seen eternal debates on the internet and I preferred to decide for myself.

I bought the Iphone 14, paid in cash, without insurance or shit, and after a few weeks of use, the only thing I see better than Android is the camera. The operating system sucks, and has disadvantages like it sucks to copy and paste conversations on Whatsapp, or not being able to edit a word you are writing when you see that you made a mistake in a letter without deleting the whole word. The swype keyboard sucks. The same for phone numbers: if you make a mistake while typing or you copy and paste a phone number and you want to add the international prefix, you can't do it, you have to delete the whole number and write it again without the error or with the prefix at the beginning, depending on the case. 

In the end, I think it's at the very least equal to, if not worse than any $300 Android, which I came to the conclusion that if Apple has managed to sell shit at a gold price, I wanted to be part of the deal and have bought Apple stock.

I know people with low incomes that finance the Iphone for 24 months and when the new one comes out they go to get it by refinancing (although they also get a discount for returning the old one).

Apple has managed with the Iphones to sell an idea of status or prestige that has no justification in the quality of the product, but in the faith that their followers have in them.

Therefore, I think it will continue to be a very good business for many years to come.

While it's interesting to see the outcome of your experiment, it is curious that you'd waste whatever large sum it cost you for an iPhone in order to figure these things out. Maybe asking a friend and having a little play around could have come up with the same thoughts, but you might have a lot more free cash that makes this acceptable. I've been using an Android for probably ten years since switching away from Apple and it feels perfectly intuitive, the only advantage I could see from an iPhone is that the store is alot more regulated and you're less likely to get malicious applications in it because they invest more in the vetting process. Besides that for me personally, having a slightly better camera means little.
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I will never trust Apple products, and the expensive price is not the first reason I dislike this company. If we talk about the espionage that Apple is conducting, then this exceeds all norms of human decency. It intervenes wherever possible, justifying surveillance on the grounds that the company is concerned about the user's safety. Saving all correspondence, all photos, and the work of the microphone everywhere without the permission of the owner are just a few "little things."
In my country, owning Apple technology is just a cry of vanity, nothing more. If we talk about convenience, then Chinese phones have already exceeded all the advantages of an Apple Core dozens of times.
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