On the other hand, if you give me enough bitcoins, I can secure your safety, buy you your own island (or if that's too expensive, just a huge compound with 18 foot high walls), and have armed guards.
I did offer that service hypothetically to someone in the newbie forums.
I live in the Philippines, so if you indeed do send me enough bitcoins, I can facilitate the purchase of your own island.
If that's too expensive, I can also set you up in a house inside a gated subdivision or village.
I know enough people in the military and local police, as well as government officials, and we can make everything look legit. I also have several friends in the security industry and they will be happy to get jobs.
You send me bitcoins, I take care of paying those armed guards the local fiat money they prefer. You're anonymous, I'm anonymous, and the guards could care less as long as they're paid. You live a long and peaceful life. Just don't ever expose yourself.
But if you're one of the most wanted terrorists in the world, I'm not sure I can protect you from stealth helicopters crashing into our house in the middle of the night with highly trained soldiers who want you dead.
As reference, I can get you an armed guard for about 5 to 6 bitcoins per month, at today's exchange rate. Make that 10 bitcoins per month if you prefer he be armed with a rifle. 20 bitcoins per month and he's a martial arts master, armed and unarmed, with a track record (in the local MMA scene).
Topic: I could just kill for some Bitcoins (Read 8173 times)
i think that if you've been wanting to hire an assassin and were only waiting for an e-currency to develop before you did so, you're not exactly the committed type...
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It seems some people are forgetting how paranoid the US government is. Even schoolkids have been jailed in the US for making drawings about stabbing a president.
Hell, it's more than likely the NSA has algorithms that detect this type of threads online automatically (even though they would find this is all just hypothetical)
This even better. Too bad NSA have no algorithms for detecting their own idiocy and idiocy of political system in USA. Hope uncompressed BMP will take up some space in the large database. Someone can upscale the resolution to gigapixel and put each pixel slightly different color, then compress using lossless PNG so it cannot be efficiently compressed? We should make more of these drawings as a sign of protest.Hell, it's more than likely the NSA has algorithms that detect this type of threads online automatically (even though they would find this is all just hypothetical)
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It seems some people are forgetting how paranoid the US government is. Even schoolkids have been jailed in the US for making drawings about stabbing a president.
Hell, it's more than likely the NSA has algorithms that detect this type of threads online automatically (even though they would find this is all just hypothetical)
This even better. Too bad NSA have no algorithms for detecting their own idiocy and idiocy of political system in USA. Hope uncompressed BMP will take up some space in the large database. Someone can upscale the resolution to gigapixel and put each pixel slightly different color, then compress using lossless PNG so it cannot be efficiently compressed? We should make more of these drawings as a sign of protest.Hell, it's more than likely the NSA has algorithms that detect this type of threads online automatically (even though they would find this is all just hypothetical)
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How is this different from other tangible currencies?
Bitcoins are far more easier for this purposes than cash or gold. You can anonymously donate to presidential assassination pool with few clicks without interrupting your masturbation session. It is not possible even with cash.Quote
if you know the right people/organization you can put a bounty on someones head
Not much of us know ho to meet such people. Even then it is very dangerous. But if assasination market exists, everyone will know the .onion address. The USA senators and internet censorfags will give free worldwide advertisement for the assassination market when they will discover its existence. Take example Silk Road. How many of You know people who can get you any drug to your door? And how many know Silk Road? 
How is this different from other tangible currencies?
Either way, if you know the right people/organization you can put a bounty on someones head.
Either way, if you know the right people/organization you can put a bounty on someones head.
Not. Bitcoins you can hand over without physically meeting and without an intermediary that might confiscate the money.
How is this different from other tangible currencies?
Either way, if you know the right people/organization you can put a bounty on someones head.
Either way, if you know the right people/organization you can put a bounty on someones head.
Maybe that's why bitcoin was created, in future we will kill eachother for some coins
Like i've said before,, Somebody is winning from that, is classic!
Like i've said before,, Somebody is winning from that, is classic!
If I ever find my name in the assassination market list with a good bounty, I would assassinate myself and collect the bounty (sounds like a joke but isn't one)
LOL, read whole thread without realizing it is necro thread, imagined how it can possibly work and be secured similar to Silk Road. And now someone got a perfect plan. Find yourself on the list. Make a text file describing your murder like assassin would. Post it in assassination market and fake your killing. Collect bounty. 
If I ever find my name in the assassination market list with a good bounty, I would assassinate myself and collect the bounty (sounds like a joke but isn't one)
MASSIVE necro-thread there... from the days just before the first bubble burst
Monster why you resurrecting old threads?
Kick starter for killers?
Money is money, cash is cash. What you spend it on has nothing to do with what it is itself.
WTF people, are you really talking casually about an assassination market and how you could operate one?
What the hell is wrong with you?
Look, I accept the fact that any anonymizable currency (both bitcoin and fiat notes) can be used for criminal things, there is little I can do about that, and I think the benefits of bitcoin far outweigh the disadvantages. But you are talking about providing an infrastructure for these things like it is OK.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Look, I accept the fact that any anonymizable currency (both bitcoin and fiat notes) can be used for criminal things, there is little I can do about that, and I think the benefits of bitcoin far outweigh the disadvantages. But you are talking about providing an infrastructure for these things like it is OK.
Why shouldn't it be OK? Please don't discriminate against people just because you follow an outdated value system.
Agreed. If you really don't like the idea of an assassination market, then just start an "assassination market" assassination market. You'll soon be rid of the assassination market.
WTF people, are you really talking casually about an assassination market and how you could operate one?
What the hell is wrong with you?
Look, I accept the fact that any anonymizable currency (both bitcoin and fiat notes) can be used for criminal things, there is little I can do about that, and I think the benefits of bitcoin far outweigh the disadvantages. But you are talking about providing an infrastructure for these things like it is OK.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Look, I accept the fact that any anonymizable currency (both bitcoin and fiat notes) can be used for criminal things, there is little I can do about that, and I think the benefits of bitcoin far outweigh the disadvantages. But you are talking about providing an infrastructure for these things like it is OK.
Why shouldn't it be OK? Please don't discriminate against people just because you follow an outdated value system.
"Assassination market" is a contradiction in terms. Obviously, a murderer does not take into account the will of his victim.
It's not. Because that's not how it works.
The market wouldn't be set up by the murderer because the murderer wouldn't need to set up a market in the first place. That would be an "extortion market" if anything.
The market is set up by someone who wants someone killed anonymously and without having to deal directly with the murderer, or even know who he is.
WTF people, are you really talking casually about an assassination market and how you could operate one?
What the hell is wrong with you?
Look, I accept the fact that any anonymizable currency (both bitcoin and fiat notes) can be used for criminal things, there is little I can do about that, and I think the benefits of bitcoin far outweigh the disadvantages. But you are talking about providing an infrastructure for these things like it is OK.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Look, I accept the fact that any anonymizable currency (both bitcoin and fiat notes) can be used for criminal things, there is little I can do about that, and I think the benefits of bitcoin far outweigh the disadvantages. But you are talking about providing an infrastructure for these things like it is OK.
This thread is spooky.
Actually such a site or the business model involved would be a big threat to BTC and TOR etc.
Imagine bounties for
* 10 jews bombed
* a dirty bomb killing at least x people on Berlin
* an A-bomb somewhere.
That directly leads to bounties for
* not setting off said A-bomb: "Country XY put forces together to find the bomb! If by [date] there are x coins on that bounty, I will let you find the bomb." With the said service people would trust that the guy will only get the bounty if he actually has a bomb. Spooky, isn't it?
* not killing hostages: I kidnapped person x.
Send money to address ... to see him alive is clearly easier than to meet in the park to hand over the money. Oh ... how boring all those action movies will get
Actually cryptography makes all dirty crimes easier. Of course bounties to kill dictators might again be much easier to be payed by so called democratic states so maybe they see an incentive for such services, too.
I hope such services involving people getting killed will face the moral of enough hackers to take them down individually. Maybe a bounty to take down the bounty site anybody?
Actually such a site or the business model involved would be a big threat to BTC and TOR etc.
Imagine bounties for
* 10 jews bombed
* a dirty bomb killing at least x people on Berlin
* an A-bomb somewhere.
That directly leads to bounties for
* not setting off said A-bomb: "Country XY put forces together to find the bomb! If by [date] there are x coins on that bounty, I will let you find the bomb." With the said service people would trust that the guy will only get the bounty if he actually has a bomb. Spooky, isn't it?
* not killing hostages: I kidnapped person x.
Send money to address ... to see him alive is clearly easier than to meet in the park to hand over the money. Oh ... how boring all those action movies will get
Actually cryptography makes all dirty crimes easier. Of course bounties to kill dictators might again be much easier to be payed by so called democratic states so maybe they see an incentive for such services, too.
I hope such services involving people getting killed will face the moral of enough hackers to take them down individually. Maybe a bounty to take down the bounty site anybody?
I think the assassination market is useful only for public officials. Like the cops who beat rodney king or the other numerous instances of beuraucrats being assholes.
hello? is freedom of speech that far already in your country? are you afraid of being sued or even brought to guantánamo
http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/apr/19indian.htm
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An Indian student in the United States has been arrested for posting violent messages on an Internet bulletin board urging readers to kill President George W Bush and his family.
Vikram Buddhi, a 34-year-old graduate student of Industrial Engineering and a teaching assistant at Purdue University in Indiana was picked up by the Secret Service last week.
According to the Federal Court records, the threats posted by Buddhi included messages urging readers to kill the president, the vice president and their families and bomb key sites in the United States.
Buddhi came to the United States in 1996 on a student F-1 visa and a spokesperson of Purdue University has confirmed his status in that school, the records said.
The investigation of Buddhi is said to have begun in December 2005 when a concerned reader reported the contents of the message board to the government.
That got the Secret Service into action working with the Purdue police to track down the source.
Buddhi has admitted making the threats as also using several IP addresses to conceal his identity, the local media quoted court documents as saying.
Vikram Buddhi, a 34-year-old graduate student of Industrial Engineering and a teaching assistant at Purdue University in Indiana was picked up by the Secret Service last week.
According to the Federal Court records, the threats posted by Buddhi included messages urging readers to kill the president, the vice president and their families and bomb key sites in the United States.
Buddhi came to the United States in 1996 on a student F-1 visa and a spokesperson of Purdue University has confirmed his status in that school, the records said.
The investigation of Buddhi is said to have begun in December 2005 when a concerned reader reported the contents of the message board to the government.
That got the Secret Service into action working with the Purdue police to track down the source.
Buddhi has admitted making the threats as also using several IP addresses to conceal his identity, the local media quoted court documents as saying.
You were saying?
I'm not an idealist. I'm a realist. Take off your rosy glasses and look at the date when this happened. It's been going on for years already.
There is no "pure" freedom of speech. When you cross a line you are going to attract the authorities. I'm not "scared", I just realize the risks unlike you, who lives in a bubbly world with no rules where nobody cares about anything.
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