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legendary
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November 19, 2015, 11:36:45 AM
#28
video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8dEwLn0Js

CECC Testimony and Q&A - Miss World Canada 2015

Well, I don't even think she's cute.  About average.

So why is she "Miss World Canada?"

What the hell is "Miss World Canada," anyway?

i dont think your question made any sense

I think it does.

For some reason you are posting stuff from a "Miss World Canada."

So you probably should deal with someone asking "what the hell is that?"
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November 19, 2015, 03:30:02 AM
#27
video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8dEwLn0Js

CECC Testimony and Q&A - Miss World Canada 2015

Well, I don't even think she's cute.  About average.

So why is she "Miss World Canada?"

What the hell is "Miss World Canada," anyway?

i dont think your question made any sense
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 08:52:10 PM
#26
video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8dEwLn0Js

CECC Testimony and Q&A - Miss World Canada 2015

Well, I don't even think she's cute.  About average.

So why is she "Miss World Canada?"

What the hell is "Miss World Canada," anyway?
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November 18, 2015, 07:08:44 PM
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video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8dEwLn0Js

CECC Testimony and Q&A - Miss World Canada 2015
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November 18, 2015, 06:58:56 PM
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Human rights[edit]
Along with her acting and participation in pageants, Lin is known for her public position against human rights abuses in China, particularly against practitioners of Falun Gong, a spiritual discipline. In 2012, she was one of eleven stakeholders selected to meet Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird upon the establishment of Canada's Office of Religious Freedom. Previously, Lin was one of ten Youth Leaders who met Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs Bob Dechert to consult on the same issue.[5] Canadian television reports attributed her victory in the 2015 Miss World Pageant in part to her passion for human rights.

Due to her activism, Chinese state security agents visited and threatened her father in China, attempting to have him sever all contact with her. "Shortly after my victory, my father started receiving threats from Chinese security agents complaining about my human rights advocacy," Lin wrote in an op-ed in The Washington Post. "No doubt fearing for his livelihood and business, my father asked me to stop advocating for human rights. He told me that if I did not stop, we would have to go our separate ways."[6]

In July 2015 Lin was invited to testify before U.S. Congress, addressing the topic of Religion With "Chinese Characteristics": Persecution and Control in Xi Jinping's China. Speaking before the Congressional-Executive Commission on China, Lin said that the intimidation and threats her father received are common. "Good people like my father, a law abiding and contributing citizen, an honest businessman now too afraid to talk to his daughter, who once supported her in everything she did... now must leave her to face the world alone... Mr. Chairman, I hope you understand this is a common experience for so many American and Canadian citizens. Those Chinese who dare to speak their minds do so knowing that those still within the regime's reach in China could pay the price for it."[7]

In subsequent interviews with media, Lin has spoken out on behalf of Falun Gong and other persecuted groups in China. And since being crowned Miss World Canada, she stopped receiving invitations to attend Chinese events held by community leaders with ties to the Chinese consulate in Toronto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastasia_Lin
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November 18, 2015, 06:57:04 PM
#23
'I Don't Represent a Threat of Any Kind'
2015-11-12

http://www.rfa.org/english/women/china-missworld-11122015104012.html



Miss Canada Anastasia Lin testifies on China's human rights situation at a US Congressional hearing, July 23, 2015.

When China hosts the 65th Miss World beauty contest starting on Nov. 21 on the island province of Hainan, one of the contestants will likely be missing from the line-up. Anastasia Lin, currently Miss Canada, has apparently been denied a visa by the ruling Chinese Communist Party after she spoke out publicly about the persecution of fellow members of the banned Falun Gong spiritual movement, which Beijing has designated an "evil cult." Lin, who was born in China but is now a Canadian citizen, and whose China-based father has been visited by the state security police, told RFA's Cantonese Service that her visa application has stalled:

They need a letter of invitation if you are applying for a visa, and Miss World issued one from their London headquarters. But when I went to apply for the visa they told me that this didn't count, and that I had to get an invitation letter from inside China, from the event's organizers there.

I asked Miss World to request this from China for me, because I wasn't the only person having this problem; they all were. I was just the first person to ask them. But all of the other contestants have now received their invitation letters from China. They got them on Oct. 30. Now it's Nov. 10, and I haven't heard anything at all from them.

I was looking at photos of the letters that the other contestants sent to me, and it says that the issuing department is the Sanya Municipal Foreign Affairs Bureau, so it's definitely the government's doing.

What this means is that the Chinese government hasn't issued me an invitation.

There are still 10 days to go, so we haven't given up hope yet. Miss World understands that I did a few things with the intention of helping some people out. I hope they will understand that was the whole reason I took part in this contest in the first place. Maybe they'll move the contest if the Chinese government doesn't give me a visa.

I am 25 years old, and I just graduated from college. I don't represent a threat of any kind to them. I just wanted to speak out on behalf of some Chinese people. I think that it would show the world how international they've become if they allowed me to go.




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November 18, 2015, 06:50:00 PM
#22
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No, I'm asking YOU.  And you don't know what I know or don't know.  Maybe I should be making demands for you to read.

Also, are you in Falong?  Just curious.


i am not falungong member,

but i know their story from very original, the case in 1999 in  my home town in my university

i know chinese politics much better and much more than you, no need discuss on this , baby

I happen to know a lot about cults, though.  Whether you know more than me about chinese politics would be something you don't know.

Regardless, I take a dim view of people that act authoritative and knowledgeable on the internet, but who don't answer actual, and often simple questions.

So would you like demands from me that you read something?




i am sorry, your argument or comment or question are far away from the topic of the thread, sorry again, no need to answer
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 06:38:02 PM
#21
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No, I'm asking YOU.  And you don't know what I know or don't know.  Maybe I should be making demands for you to read.

Also, are you in Falong?  Just curious.


i am not falungong member,

but i know their story from very original, the case in 1999 in  my home town in my university

i know chinese politics much better and much more than you, no need discuss on this , baby

I happen to know a lot about cults, though.  Whether you know more than me about chinese politics would be something you don't know.

Regardless, I take a dim view of people that act authoritative and knowledgeable on the internet, but who don't answer actual, and often simple questions.

So would you like demands from me that you read something?

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November 18, 2015, 05:13:58 PM
#20
Falun Gong, A racist and sexist cult

http://forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=48287&sid=c291bbb0cc2116093c86803a47cbce61

king wu

Racism:
bullet   According to the New York Times, Li Hongzhi said that: "...interracial children are the spawn of the 'Dharma Ending Period,' a Buddhist phrase that refers to an era of moral degeneration. In an interview last year, he said each race has its own paradise, and he later told followers in Australia that, 'The yellow people, the white people, and the black people have corresponding races in heaven.' As a result, he said, interracial children have no place in heaven without his intervention."

As noted below, homosexuality is degenerate behavior, on a par with sexual promiscuity.
Beliefs about homosexuality:

The Falun Gong movement appears to treat homosexuality -- presumably homosexual behavior not homosexual orientation -- as a degenerate behavior, on a par with sexual promiscuity:

Founder and current leader Li Hongzhi delivered a lecture in Sydney, Australia in 1996. 7 In it, he made a passing reference to homosexuality:
"A lot of people have done many bad deeds. Things such as organized crime, homosexuality, and promiscuous sex, etc., none are the standards of being human."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/falungong1.htm

My name is Samuel Luo and my parents are both Falun Gong practitioners who have been hurt and exploited by this cult. Among the many harms done to them, I have been seriously concerned that they have refused needed medical treatment. In 2002, my step-father initially refused help when he had a stroke and he has suffered painful gout attacks unnecessarily for five years. He did so because he was being brainwashed into believing that Li Hongzhi, the founder and leader of this cult has the power to cure illnesses and taking medicine is counter productive.

http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/107037_comment.php
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Lord Lucan

...
The simplistic anti-government propganda of the FLG is so trite,
 and so blindingly obvious to any Chinese person that it could only be for foreign consumption.  
:roll: I suspect the China end of the FLG is a cynical manipulation by overseas elements to create a persecution complex among members using Chinese (fuck it, there's plenty of them) as the victims.
And it is disgusting.
 Screw the FLG.
And screw all these  fuckwits in the West blindly supporting something they know absolutely nothing about, nor have no experience of.
...
Give your money/support to HRW China or something, or reporters san frontiers of something, but save us from the FLG!


...
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November 18, 2015, 02:47:52 PM
#19
pretty girl, ugly chinese government!!!
I am wondering if this so called Miss Canada stuff has been part of an anti-China campaign in disguise all along.
I do agree with the Chinese gov that Falong is a bad cult.

Talked to some of them.  They have that glassy eyed stare...


Falungong is legal all over the world except mainland china, that fact itself figures out all.

No it doesn't figure anything out.  Do you have a point?

Do you actually even KNOW ANYTHING about Falong?



read before you ask please
No, I'm asking YOU.  And you don't know what I know or don't know.  Maybe I should be making demands for you to read.

Also, are you in Falong?  Just curious.


i am not falungong member,

but i know their story from very original, the case in 1999 in  my home town in my university

i know chinese politics much better and much more than you, no need discuss on this , baby
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 12:41:11 PM
#18
pretty girl, ugly chinese government!!!
I am wondering if this so called Miss Canada stuff has been part of an anti-China campaign in disguise all along.
I do agree with the Chinese gov that Falong is a bad cult.

Talked to some of them.  They have that glassy eyed stare...


Falungong is legal all over the world except mainland china, that fact itself figures out all.

No it doesn't figure anything out.  Do you have a point?

Do you actually even KNOW ANYTHING about Falong?



read before you ask please
No, I'm asking YOU.  And you don't know what I know or don't know.  Maybe I should be making demands for you to read.

Also, are you in Falong?  Just curious.
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November 18, 2015, 10:12:16 AM
#17
pretty girl, ugly chinese government!!!
I am wondering if this so called Miss Canada stuff has been part of an anti-China campaign in disguise all along.
I do agree with the Chinese gov that Falong is a bad cult.

Talked to some of them.  They have that glassy eyed stare...


Falungong is legal all over the world except mainland china, that fact itself figures out all.

No it doesn't figure anything out.  Do you have a point?

Do you actually even KNOW ANYTHING about Falong?



read before you ask please
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 10:11:12 AM
#16
pretty girl, ugly chinese government!!!
I am wondering if this so called Miss Canada stuff has been part of an anti-China campaign in disguise all along.
I do agree with the Chinese gov that Falong is a bad cult.

Talked to some of them.  They have that glassy eyed stare...


Falungong is legal all over the world except mainland china, that fact itself figures out all.

No it doesn't figure anything out.  Do you have a point?

Do you actually even KNOW ANYTHING about Falong?

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November 18, 2015, 10:05:23 AM
#15
And the point of this thread is? Because if you think that Ms. Anastasia Lin will win against Chinese government and they bend to her will and let her in, then you are gravely mistaken.



 mainland china will be totally free , sooner or later, no doubt


obviously you think in wrong direction
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November 18, 2015, 09:58:00 AM
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And the point of this thread is? Because if you think that Ms. Anastasia Lin will win against Chinese government and they bend to her will and let her in, then you are gravely mistaken.
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 09:48:54 AM
#13
Anybody who suggests out of the blue that they don't represent a threat of any kind, needs to be watched carefully for hidden threats.

Smiley
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November 18, 2015, 09:44:45 AM
#12

Falungong is legal all over the world except mainland china, that fact itself figures out all.

Everyone can put on search engine "Falun Gong Practitioners Forced Deportation"
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November 18, 2015, 09:18:15 AM
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"As for China, not all dissidents have clean hands. What about Falun Dafa (Falun Gong), which independent investigators have concluded is an authoritarian cult that also has a conservative Buddhist homophobic bias? Moreover, it should also be remembered that while it trails Europe and South America in LGBT rights terms, China did finally decriminalise male homosexuality (1997) six years before the United States (2003)."

http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/32/article_6313.php
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November 18, 2015, 09:08:25 AM
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Falungong is legal all over the world except mainland china, that fact itself figures out all.

SINGAPORE — A Singapore court Tuesday charged 15 followers of the Falun Gong spiritual movement with illegal assembly after their unauthorized vigil in memory of fellow believers they say died in police custody in China.

The nine men and six women were led into a Singapore courtroom in handcuffs to hear the formal charges. Most wore bright yellow T-shirts that read: "The great law of Fa Lun: truthfulness, benevolence, tolerance."

The charges, including obstructing a police officer, were read to each defendant in English and translated into Mandarin through an interpreter.

After their arrest on New Year's Eve, the detainees refused to post bail, saying they did nothing wrong.

But by the time the court hearing ended late Tuesday, they were each in the process of posting $1,150 bail.

Falun Gong member Ng Wee Keong said the accused were all "fellow practitioners" of the spiritual movement. Police detained them just before midnight Sunday after a three-hour standoff involving about 80 Falun Gong members in a Singapore park. The sect, legal in Singapore, has been banned in China and has been targeted by a crackdown there.

The Falun Gong members, mostly women and children, had gathered around two makeshift cardboard memorials pasted with pictures and names of the alleged victims in China. Demonstrations and protests are rare in tightly controlled Singapore, where permits are required for any public gatherings.

Most of the detained Falun Gong members in Singapore are Chinese nationals, according to a court document.

At least two dozen police cordoned off the area and demanded that the Falun Gong followers hand over the memorials. They refused, at one point locking arms to prevent police from detaining members, police said.

The crime of obstructing a policeman carries a maximum jail sentence of 3 months and a maximum fine of $285. The unlawful assembly charge also carries a maximum 3-month jail term, and a maximum fine of $2,850.

The meditation sect has attracted millions of members in China and throughout the world. Beijing, fearing Falun Gong's popularity and its threat to Communist Party rule, has banned the group and sent thousands of members to prison and labor camps.

Human-rights groups say at least 92 have died in detention since the government banned the sect in July 1999, including four who were reported dead Tuesday by the Information Center for Human Rights and Democracy.

The Hong Kong-based information center said the latest victims included 33-year-old Xu Bing and 34-year-old Lou Aiqing from China's eastern Shandong province.

Police arrested the two Dec. 20, when they were posting Falun Gong slogans on walls in Shandong's Qingdao city, and beat them in detention, it said.

On Dec. 24, police informed the families of Xu and Lou that they had died of heart disease.

Spotting numerous wounds on the bodies, the families took pictures of the corpses, only to have the films seized by police, the rights group said.

- See more at: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RPNi0wSut_sJ:articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-01-03/news/0101030244_1_falun-gong-spiritual-movement-singapore-park+&cd=1&hl=it&ct=clnk&gl=us#sthash.xxFoHQ7e.dpuf
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November 17, 2015, 07:05:51 AM
#9
pretty girl, ugly chinese government!!!
I am wondering if this so called Miss Canada stuff has been part of an anti-China campaign in disguise all along.
I do agree with the Chinese gov that Falong is a bad cult.

Talked to some of them.  They have that glassy eyed stare...


Falungong is legal all over the world except mainland china, that fact itself figures out all.
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