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legendary
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December 27, 2023, 07:55:54 PM
#84
@Slaman29 I don't know if this is coming too late already, but yes I do have my proof but sharing it on here feels somehow to me, because I bet some people knows me off the forum and I and trying to avoid them knowing my worth, if there is other way I can prove to you then it's on, at least we are here to share crypto knowledge, there are alts that have given me more than x10, and I have full confidence to reveal them to you, but not on the forum.

There are few I got that have killed double zeros already, mostly gaming projects, and I did took profits on few back into Bitcoin.

I guess we just have to take your word for it then. But for me, if you really want to help the forum, you really want to encourage crypto use, then you must evidence with provable examples.

Anyone can claim anything. In gambling section this is the case, loads of posters claiming stuff, no actual bets made, I think the same must apply to trading and investment. 'Knowledge' is easy to write online. Without accountability, I feel its more harm than good.
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December 27, 2023, 04:24:09 AM
#83
@Slaman29 I don't know if this is coming too late already, but yes I do have my proof but sharing it on here feels somehow to me, because I bet some people knows me off the forum and I and trying to avoid them knowing my worth, if there is other way I can prove to you then it's on, at least we are here to share crypto knowledge, there are alts that have given me more than x10, and I have full confidence to reveal them to you, but not on the forum.

There are few I got that have killed double zeros already, mostly gaming projects, and I did took profits on few back into Bitcoin.
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November 21, 2023, 04:29:31 AM
#82
But then, you have to start accepting the fact that it is shitcoins, not some new revolutionary creation, and you have to admit that it is gambling.
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 When you gamble you expect to lose so it's ok.

It's November 20th today and I am here to tell you that my altcoin portfolio, every single altcoins in my wallet are going crazy, I am insanely in huge profit right now and the best performer in my wallet is kaspa, I bought last year 2022 at $0.003 and today it's up $0.14, there are few others like and I don't need to make mention of the names, I did my own research and took the risk.

Saying that no matter how good one is as analysis altcoin investment is gambling is not entirely wrong, I accept this because one or two my die or exit scam but you will still get the best result doing this than gambling, I am also a gambler and I am putting these two side by side, so far altcoin investment have given me better ROI in this bear market than gambling.

Just because people aren't talking about their good fortune from altcoins in the alt discussion doesn't mean it's not happening, to me, investing in fantom was not gambling, investing in Matic was not gambling, investing in avalanche was never gambling, their utility just stands out.
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Good for you, but I don't see how that changes the points I made about gambling 3 months ago Smiley

Every single alt going crazy is EXPECTED because duh Bitcoin did.

When you make statements you need evidence. Evidence becomes strong with sample size. You show me (without proof) you made crazy amounts of money, I will tell you many more people lost their money trading in the last few months.

Because like you, they practically gambled. You won they lost.

Show me how you "used" fantom, mativ, ava etc. I'll show you any day how I used Bitcoin.
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November 20, 2023, 05:17:00 PM
#81
How did you know about Bitcoin in 2016, 2017 and know about those faucets but did not join the forum earlier?

You only joined Bitcointalk in 2022, about less one year and one month ago. It is good to know that you are Bitcoin adopter since 2016, 2017 and you are survivor since the past bear market and a current one because you are still here, around Bitcoin, this market and are a member of this forum.

Would you mind sharing what happened with you since 2016 till 2022, please.

Today you can claim Bitcoin at this faucet: https://freebitco.in/site/bitcoin-faucet/

I am not sure about other faucets.

A first Bitcoin faucet is Get 5 free bitcoins from freebitcoins.appspot.com in June 2010.

There are many people involved with crypto from start who have not joined this forum yet. Different people have different priorities and thus this forum might not be priority for those people. Another possibility is that he belongs to some country where this forum is not very popular. Later when more people from his location started becoming active here, they might have shared it with him and thus he joined.
True, this bitcoin is not popular or cannot be easily seen by those non-cryptocurreny users, or, in short, it is not known in the world unless you know about bitcoin. Well, maybe because many crypto holders get their assets from this forum through signature campaigns or other services.

I admired the dedication of the OP, even theres a hurdles he keeps on giving time and effort to bitcoin for himself which is what should a lot of people must have and learn from the experience of the OP, many saying that it is too late to invest in bitcoin now, no they are wrong its never too late, they just know the big events of bitcoin that's why they are saying that, but in reality you could earn in bitcoin without that big events, you could earn in different ways, holding, buy and sell at appropriate point, trading, or staking and etc, you can choose on what method you can do, that's why we need to learn from the OP's experience that its never too late to invest in bitcoin you just need to have the dedication and urge to earn.

That's also my goal; that's why, even though I started in bitcoin or crypto currency in 2020, I'm still here because I'm still learning and, at the same time, earning.
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November 20, 2023, 02:33:56 PM
#80
You can! Just like I do!

But then, you have to start accepting the fact that it is shitcoins, not some new revolutionary creation, and you have to admit that it is gambling.

We are total opposites it seems. I learnt that all my time spent researching and being part of great communities means nothing because my "investment" into altcoins are just gambling. You switched the other way Smiley

Just be careful of expectations. When you gamble you expect to lose so it's ok. But if you invest time and future hopes, shitcoins losing will harm your personal wellbeing.

Investing money on Binance coin is far better than visiting the casino or gambling online, you called bnb shitcoin and I don't say it isn't, but taking risks with these shitcoins is more safer than gambling I repeat, because you can analyse how or which project can bring you good return.

You can gamble on 20 altcoins like someone I knew did, with $2000 and he made over 100k in 2021, I don't need to prove anything to make this looks real, but all I am saying is it's a better chance that you will make money than gambling in casino.

I made most money from altcoins too, even than Bitcoin, but many people don't want to believe this, I can gamble with $2000 and get nothing on casinos, but it's near impossible to slit $2000 among some good alts aka shitcoins to you, just one project is enough to give you all your initial investment back, with better ROI too.

After Bitcoin investment and mining, trading follows, after that it's altcoins investment, and gambling online is the last online money making activity I get involved with, and so far, gambling as the lowest returns.

You can repeat that all day my friend but I also repeat to you, no amount of analysis or research can ever make a difference. I learn in 2017, I saw all the professional research, I saw the detailed analysis into which coin has better tech etc. BNB has zero new tech, clones of everything else BUT better marketing and self pump, that's why they got up.

And you do need to prove things when you say shit like gambling on altcoins makes you better money than gambling. How can a guy who promotes research and analysis say things without need for proof?

In the altcoin section of this forum, I dare you to find people who actually invest in alts with research and they made profit because of that research. With proof, of course Smiley

I'm not saying gambling is a way to make money, please remember. I'm saying altcoin "investment" is actually gambling! I quote myself:

But then, you have to start accepting the fact that it is shitcoins, not some new revolutionary creation, and you have to admit that it is gambling.
~~
 When you gamble you expect to lose so it's ok.

It's November 20th today and I am here to tell you that my altcoin portfolio, every single altcoins in my wallet are going crazy, I am insanely in huge profit right now and the best performer in my wallet is kaspa, I bought last year 2022 at $0.003 and today it's up $0.14, there are few others like and I don't need to make mention of the names, I did my own research and took the risk.

Saying that no matter how good one is as analysis altcoin investment is gambling is not entirely wrong, I accept this because one or two my die or exit scam but you will still get the best result doing this than gambling, I am also a gambler and I am putting these two side by side, so far altcoin investment have given me better ROI in this bear market than gambling.

Just because people aren't talking about their good fortune from altcoins in the alt discussion doesn't mean it's not happening, to me, investing in fantom was not gambling, investing in Matic was not gambling, investing in avalanche was never gambling, their utility just stands out.
newbie
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September 29, 2023, 09:24:05 AM
#79
I was doing some cleanup in my store yesterday and I saw my books that I used for storing vital information about Bitcoin in 2016 and 2017, these books have some good and bad memories behind them.

https://i.postimg.cc/VsFjpw8n/eZLL2mS.jpg

There is nothing that beats learning, maybe I would have had a different outcome if I focused more on learning. Because I will understand how valuable Bitcoin will be in the future.

At the same time, it's a cool and instructive story. It's great that you still don't give up and keep learning.
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September 29, 2023, 03:43:27 AM
#78
You can! Just like I do!

But then, you have to start accepting the fact that it is shitcoins, not some new revolutionary creation, and you have to admit that it is gambling.

We are total opposites it seems. I learnt that all my time spent researching and being part of great communities means nothing because my "investment" into altcoins are just gambling. You switched the other way Smiley

Just be careful of expectations. When you gamble you expect to lose so it's ok. But if you invest time and future hopes, shitcoins losing will harm your personal wellbeing.

Investing money on Binance coin is far better than visiting the casino or gambling online, you called bnb shitcoin and I don't say it isn't, but taking risks with these shitcoins is more safer than gambling I repeat, because you can analyse how or which project can bring you good return.

You can gamble on 20 altcoins like someone I knew did, with $2000 and he made over 100k in 2021, I don't need to prove anything to make this looks real, but all I am saying is it's a better chance that you will make money than gambling in casino.

I made most money from altcoins too, even than Bitcoin, but many people don't want to believe this, I can gamble with $2000 and get nothing on casinos, but it's near impossible to slit $2000 among some good alts aka shitcoins to you, just one project is enough to give you all your initial investment back, with better ROI too.

After Bitcoin investment and mining, trading follows, after that it's altcoins investment, and gambling online is the last online money making activity I get involved with, and so far, gambling as the lowest returns.

You can repeat that all day my friend but I also repeat to you, no amount of analysis or research can ever make a difference. I learn in 2017, I saw all the professional research, I saw the detailed analysis into which coin has better tech etc. BNB has zero new tech, clones of everything else BUT better marketing and self pump, that's why they got up.

And you do need to prove things when you say shit like gambling on altcoins makes you better money than gambling. How can a guy who promotes research and analysis say things without need for proof?

In the altcoin section of this forum, I dare you to find people who actually invest in alts with research and they made profit because of that research. With proof, of course Smiley

I'm not saying gambling is a way to make money, please remember. I'm saying altcoin "investment" is actually gambling! I quote myself:

But then, you have to start accepting the fact that it is shitcoins, not some new revolutionary creation, and you have to admit that it is gambling.
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 When you gamble you expect to lose so it's ok.
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September 28, 2023, 03:57:16 PM
#77
believe me,  Bitcoin investment is not easy for those that have no good source of income.
Absolutely, I agree with you that investing in Bitcoin is not good when you have no such source of income. Because when a person is hand-to-mouth for a living and he earns hardly at least two meals a day, how might he invest in Bitcoin? Despite the fact that bitcoin is an excellent investment, if a person lacks a reliable source of income and has a family or child that depends on him, there is nothing else for them to depend on without his income. So he will therefore find it challenging to invest in bitcoin because it has such a volatile nature, so it is not suitable to invest in it for a person who does not have a sufficient source of income because bitcoin brings us a huge amount of profit and vice versa, the same amount of loss.

So at the end of the conclusion, I want to say that if a person does not have a reliable source of income through which he completes his daily tasks, it would be too risky for him to invest in Bitcoin because if the price goes down and he invests all of his income and suddenly there are some incidents, mishaps, and disasters with it, what will he do to monitor or solve his problem immediately?
So it is better for him to invest in those who do not have too much volitality.
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September 28, 2023, 07:35:45 AM
#76
If I can gamble on online casinos every now and then why can't I take little risks on altcoins? This is what my mind used to say to me, but after learning my lesson I now take risks with well built altcoins like Cardano and bnb, if Bitcoin creates a new low I believe Bnb can shake up some dollars and go lower, maybe 40$ per Bnb again, then that's when I will take risk on altcoins, but for now BTC is my main conclusion.

It's such a shame that to make life changing money from Bitcoin now requires a higher amount of money, this is why most of us still decide to buy altcoins to get a better boost on our ROI when the bull market arrives.

You can! Just like I do!

But then, you have to start accepting the fact that it is shitcoins, not some new revolutionary creation, and you have to admit that it is gambling.

We are total opposites it seems. I learnt that all my time spent researching and being part of great communities means nothing because my "investment" into altcoins are just gambling. You switched the other way Smiley

Just be careful of expectations. When you gamble you expect to lose so it's ok. But if you invest time and future hopes, shitcoins losing will harm your personal wellbeing.


Investing money on Binance coin is far better than visiting the casino or gambling online, you called bnb shitcoin and I don't say it isn't, but taking risks with these shitcoins is more safer than gambling I repeat, because you can analyse how or which project can bring you good return.

You can gamble on 20 altcoins like someone I knew did, with $2000 and he made over 100k in 2021, I don't need to prove anything to make this looks real, but all I am saying is it's a better chance that you will make money than gambling in casino.

I made most money from altcoins too, even than Bitcoin, but many people don't want to believe this, I can gamble with $2000 and get nothing on casinos, but it's near impossible to slit $2000 among some good alts aka shitcoins to you, just one project is enough to give you all your initial investment back, with better ROI too.

After Bitcoin investment and mining, trading follows, after that it's altcoins investment, and gambling online is the last online money making activity I get involved with, and so far, gambling as the lowest returns.
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August 20, 2023, 11:11:52 AM
#75
believe me,  Bitcoin investment is not easy for those that have no good source of income.
Right people with limited source of income or very low find it hard to invest in it because they need to satisfy their personal needs first of all and it's not a compulsion that we should do because the rule also states invest what you can afford to loose so it becomes more hard for such people as they can't handle losses in terms of their savings.So gain some extra income to set aside some amount you would invest without any risk.
It is very necessary to have additional income if you want to invest.
Every investment will definitely be risky and the risk of investing in crypto will be greater if you are not prepared for rapid price fluctuations.

I also fall into the category of people with limited additional income.
only a few hundred dollars for a month that I can get, and part of it I set aside for regular investment.

It is also supported by a few percent signature income and the rest is used for the needs of me and my family.
Any investment is easy, provided you have a stable extra income and don't really need it for other needs.
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August 20, 2023, 07:53:44 AM
#74
How did you know about Bitcoin in 2016, 2017 and know about those faucets but did not join the forum earlier?

You only joined Bitcointalk in 2022, about less one year and one month ago. It is good to know that you are Bitcoin adopter since 2016, 2017 and you are survivor since the past bear market and a current one because you are still here, around Bitcoin, this market and are a member of this forum.

Would you mind sharing what happened with you since 2016 till 2022, please.

Today you can claim Bitcoin at this faucet: https://freebitco.in/site/bitcoin-faucet/

I am not sure about other faucets.

A first Bitcoin faucet is Get 5 free bitcoins from freebitcoins.appspot.com in June 2010.

There are many people involved with crypto from start who have not joined this forum yet. Different people have different priorities and thus this forum might not be priority for those people. Another possibility is that he belongs to some country where this forum is not very popular. Later when more people from his location started becoming active here, they might have shared it with him and thus he joined.
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August 20, 2023, 06:04:51 AM
#73
If I can gamble on online casinos every now and then why can't I take little risks on altcoins? This is what my mind used to say to me, but after learning my lesson I now take risks with well built altcoins like Cardano and bnb, if Bitcoin creates a new low I believe Bnb can shake up some dollars and go lower, maybe 40$ per Bnb again, then that's when I will take risk on altcoins, but for now BTC is my main conclusion.

It's such a shame that to make life changing money from Bitcoin now requires a higher amount of money, this is why most of us still decide to buy altcoins to get a better boost on our ROI when the bull market arrives.

You can! Just like I do!

But then, you have to start accepting the fact that it is shitcoins, not some new revolutionary creation, and you have to admit that it is gambling.

We are total opposites it seems. I learnt that all my time spent researching and being part of great communities means nothing because my "investment" into altcoins are just gambling. You switched the other way Smiley

Just be careful of expectations. When you gamble you expect to lose so it's ok. But if you invest time and future hopes, shitcoins losing will harm your personal wellbeing.

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August 19, 2023, 11:50:47 AM
#72
believe me,  Bitcoin investment is not easy for those that have no good source of income.
Right people with limited source of income or very low find it hard to invest in it because they need to satisfy their personal needs first of all and it's not a compulsion that we should do because the rule also states invest what you can afford to loose so it becomes more hard for such people as they can't handle losses in terms of their savings.So gain some extra income to set aside some amount you would invest without any risk.
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August 19, 2023, 09:07:24 AM
#71
I know I should also be having good nostalgia for those days, although my days were really in 2017, but they were when I was so busy researching and supporting so many projects. Investing my own money and really "following the dream". Crash hurt me so bad though that I almost left, especially because I used so much of my BTC to "diversify" into alts.

Lessons were so learned that year lol.
Some of these old moves still haunt me today, I also focused on some altcoins, I spent money on graphic cards, but I made the mistake of mining altcoins, I could have focused on Bitcoin and Ethereum only, and maybe today I would have become an Ethereum whale at least but instead I started mining shit coins, then I don't even look at those coins like they are shit, who would have thought 🤔 so?

I ended up losing everything because those shitcoins have no value after a few months, some turned to scam, we all have learned the hard way but it's a greater lesson that are worth it, at least we aren't the same person we used to be back then, and brother, that's a big achievement.

I still get temptation every now and then, especially when you see some shitcoins make massive PR campaigns but this time I treat it like a gamble, money I don't expect to get back, while never again sacrificing the precious BTC holdings that take so long to build.

I'll never be rich but I'm never gonna put BTC in losing shitcoins again.

Slow and steady, it's our biggest lesson right?
If I can gamble on online casinos every now and then why can't I take little risks on altcoins? This is what my mind used to say to me, but after learning my lesson I now take risks with well built altcoins like Cardano and bnb, if Bitcoin creates a new low I believe Bnb can shake up some dollars and go lower, maybe 40$ per Bnb again, then that's when I will take risk on altcoins, but for now BTC is my main conclusion.

It's such a shame that to make life changing money from Bitcoin now requires a higher amount of money, this is why most of us still decide to buy altcoins to get a better boost on our ROI when the bull market arrives.
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August 18, 2023, 09:49:23 AM
#70
I know I should also be having good nostalgia for those days, although my days were really in 2017, but they were when I was so busy researching and supporting so many projects. Investing my own money and really "following the dream". Crash hurt me so bad though that I almost left, especially because I used so much of my BTC to "diversify" into alts.

Lessons were so learned that year lol.
Some of these old moves still haunt me today, I also focused on some altcoins, I spent money on graphic cards, but I made the mistake of mining altcoins, I could have focused on Bitcoin and Ethereum only, and maybe today I would have become an Ethereum whale at least but instead I started mining shit coins, then I don't even look at those coins like they are shit, who would have thought 🤔 so?

I ended up losing everything because those shitcoins have no value after a few months, some turned to scam, we all have learned the hard way but it's a greater lesson that are worth it, at least we aren't the same person we used to be back then, and brother, that's a big achievement.

I still get temptation every now and then, especially when you see some shitcoins make massive PR campaigns but this time I treat it like a gamble, money I don't expect to get back, while never again sacrificing the precious BTC holdings that take so long to build.

I'll never be rich but I'm never gonna put BTC in losing shitcoins again.

Slow and steady, it's our biggest lesson right?
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August 17, 2023, 09:04:56 PM
#69
OP you have believed in bitcoin for years and have been automatic with it.  Long 6/7 years ago you invested in Bitcoin and kept that invested money in a wallet lost. But since you got it back again and again, it is really good and commendable for you that we should learn from this, because if you have faith you always get everything back as you got it. I think if you are looking for a source of income in Bitcoin you must have faith and trust in it, but you can make a profit by investing. If a person is interested in investing in Bitcoin, if he does not have money, he must learn to save some money and invest with the money he has saved. And from your tutorial we must learn how transparent and certain the future of Bitcoin is so we never forget to invest in Bitcoin.
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August 17, 2023, 11:56:38 AM
#68
Exactly my thought, although most people have made this early mistake but if we kinda look at it from one angle it's not actually a mistake but I would understand why it's supposedly called that maybe because of the lack of  proper planning and strategy towards the early Bitcoin investment you made but mistakes are actually meant to be a lesson for us and people around us to take to correction. But there is plenty of opportunity to make the right move in your Bitcoin investment as BTC is still very much in a stage where we can still make something out of it, the only issue here is to play the HODL game and accumulate as much and wait for time to fulfill its course.
I bought my first bitcoin in 2016 and I used it in a ponzi scheme that didn't go well for me. The 0.0338 BTC I bought is worth about $944 in today's market value and I lost everything to ponzi. I don't beat myself over it because I believe if there are no mistakes, then there won't be any lesson. The OP went through a great deal in stacking his Bitcoin holdings and made the big mistake of investing it in altcoin mining that cost him everything. Unlike my case, he should be happy that he was able to do something good with it, using part of it to give his family a good Christmas celebration and also to support his sick brother is commendable and something he should be proud of.
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August 17, 2023, 11:49:13 AM
#67
That was an opportunity that time for you to have a bitcoin early, but we know the struggles of life we need to set a side some things do not help into our current state, so you keep choosing your family and there's nothing wrong with that because you have the opportunity, but you don't have the stand to invest as possible this can really serve a lesson that next in your journey will surely take this again. People too much overwhelming the use of the bitcoin so they make an investment without a proper execution because of FOMO at the end they will use their investment to survive in the daily basis. Hoping soon most of us will catch up for the next halving.

Exactly, this is really meant to some thread such as "Bitcoin is not for everyone". I mean we're all aware on Bitcoin's existence so as we studied and we know the potential of it or it's benefit. But the common problems from some people is the money sources for investment. Let's say that you really have a good paying job, but the fact that everyday we all can't predict the outcome that there might be some problem in life and issues that would be needing some financial money.

I always keep saying that, if you don't have the money to invest in Bitcoin yet, then you could focus on investing in yourself first with knowledge. So when the time comes you already have the funds to invest then it would be easier for you to be in crypto currency. Cuz FOMO is literally could destroy anyone's money by just impulsively betting their money and wanting it to profit quickly.
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August 17, 2023, 11:34:51 AM
#66
believe me,  Bitcoin investment is not easy for those that have no good source of income.

I believe you. I read your whole post and I felt what you have gone through. I can understand how it feels when you say bitcoin investment is not easy for those who don't have a good source of income.
This is because when I started my journey with bitcoin I was as hungry for it as you were and tried to grab every opportunity to accumulate some coins.
Even I didn't have any income back then and so accumulating BTC was a tough task. As days passed the wallet balance kept growing.
I had sold some of my earnings in bitcoin on few occasions which I don't regret. It was a good journey for me fortunately.
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August 17, 2023, 11:02:25 AM
#65
Seems excited with your journey how to know Bitcoin and face panic moment for selling all bitcoin assets when price going down, ever in your position but I am most loyal holding some cryptocurrency assets more than several year but get disappointed result after my coins holding delist from exchange market. Its not wrong when take decision for holding bitcoin assets but we have manage well when time for selling and buy back later.

Not totally mistake when selling your bitcoin assets last several year, don't imagine with how much expensive current bitcoin price right now but remember you help your brother life by selling bitcoin assets. Still not late for investing in bitcoin right now and you have much knowledge with joining airdrop and spent it in Bitcoin for long term investment.
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