Topic: I found out some very bad news in the family - page 3. (Read 4341 times)

Yes, i understand. I personally would not just shove cannaboids down his throat. By going to a doctor, where it is legal, this enables for an evaluation by a doctor/doctors in his case, I probably think there will be a few doctors in his case anyways, and see what the doctors come up with and to see what they have to say, if they said it would cause more harm, we would go to the next option/opions of medicines for him.

It was theory and the thread got out of control.

MJ is known to cause or exacerbate the effects of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis and therefore should be approached extremely carefully. That is all.

This is where I caught it.


& this is where he didn't read.

If you bothered to carefully read what he said, all he said was that AndrewBUD is not a doctor and should not be prescribing things, and that you just need to ask a real doctor.

What works for one person DOES NOT always work for another.

It is. Yea, I think my sister had time to let it soak in, she and the rest of use just found this out yesterday. So, were all easing, making plans on what to do next.

End the fucking shit, right here, organofcorti.


If the doctor think it would not help, then so be it. If it would, then so be it.

/end of your fucking rant in this thread.

You're wrong in almost every important respect.

"Mind altering" is not defined as "When AndrewBUD can't act like himself". It means to alter the way your mind works. It's not a sliding scale from barely noticeable to totally fucked up. Compare hallucinogens and narcotics, which alter the way your mind works in quite different ways. Your idea of "mind altering" is not just wrong, it ignores what altering your mind actually is.

Side effects between drugs cannot be compared as "worse", except as personal reaction and personal preference. What you mean is "side effects of most prescribed drugs AndrewBUD has taken are worse than the side effects of marijuana on AndrewBUD".

The side effects you experience are not the same as the side effects others experience. You're making a judgement call on a sample size of 1 - you. Or maybe a few of your friends who agree. This does not constitute a double blind study of efficacy or a comparison of side effects in a particular area.

Finally, as well as possibly not suiting your neurochemical make up, prescription drugs are prescribed for a purpose. From what you've written, your use of valium would be considered "off label" at best.

I'm criticising what you wrote, but don't take it the wrong way. I'm not criticising your choices. I understand that for you, marijuana has been a godsend and has enabled you to live a normal life which otherwise may not have been possible. However your own experiences do not mean a random 7 year old will enjoy the same benefits. You should not be giving other forum members medical advice about children based on personal experience and preferences.

I will have to say that those are all minor things.. I am talking mind altering... as in you can't act like yourself... MOST prescribed drugs have worse side affects then any amount of marijuana.  If I take 1 10mg valium I have a hang over for 2 days from one pill.. Think of the side affects from someone taking that stuff numerous times daily.

I was a pretty bad kid to... I enjoyed settings fires and fighting, I grew out of it..... Have been self medicating with marijuana for 10+ years...

I'm sorry about the situation. That is just too bad for that to happen to anyone. 

As a side note, I acted like him when I was 7 too. I threw dishes at my sisters in rage. I grew out of it.

I also had a friend though who was a devout Catholic, studying at Notre Dame to be a priest, had brain surgery when he got in a car crash, and came out wondering who is family was and why he did what he did before, didn't know why he believed in god in the first place and now considers it silly, etc.

The human brain is a scary thing.

This

THC is a bad bad idea for anyone with a risk of psychosis and even worse in such a young child.

My advice would be an anti-psychotic - these drugs are specifically DESIGNED for things like this.

I have to agree with organofcorti.

Mind altering drugs even as silly as coffee is bad for anyone who havnt hit puberty yet, their minds are still very fragile and brains are adapting/learning at speed of light every day but adding stimulants to the mix could be degenerate very quickly for them.

This is why young kids have ADD quite often, it doesnt help boosting that natural disorder.

So why use it if it doesn't change your mood? Of course it is mind altering. Anything that changes the way your mind works is. Like alcohol, cigarettes, high sugar foods, caffeine.

As a hypothetical I think I'd be more likely to agree to have surgery from a cigarette smoker or coffee drinker than an alcoholic or a pot smoker though.

you think Marijuana is mind altering? are you serious?



Booze is mind altering... I could not drink 20 beers and act normal BUT I could smoke 20 joints and act normal with a little bit of munchies attached


are cigarettes mind altering.... ^ this is why marijuana has such a bad name...... people believe all the shit talk about it.....

Marijuana for a child with a possible mental illness? Are you serious?

Firstly, giving any child a mind altering substance is something that should only be done with a psychiatrists' input, and as a last resort. Secondly, don't give a drug that can cause anxiety to a person displaying symptoms of an emotional disorder. Thirdly, don't give marijuana to a person who is at risk of a psychosis.

I'm not sure what institutions are like in your country. In mine they vary a bit, and tend to graduate inmates to half way houses as soon as they're ready for the public. It wouldn't be my first choice as a place to live.

But - and this is the terrible choice here - do you wait for a tragedy to occur first? If not an institution, then there'd need to be full time carers and minimal exposure to the public.

I don't envy you, and I hope there's another option. Pot is not that other option though.

our little guy is a trooper.... at under 2 years old he's close to testing his own blood sugar and never cries when he's getting his insulin shot... He's tougher then i'll ever be....

Over [allways]? meh, don't even bother LoL, I spell checked it with my eyes, from what I seen, all I caught was [allways]

Madness, my spelling in that response went to crap, 4am mornings starting to hit me bad.

I have absorbed this info, I will definitely email her this, if she has one, if not I will print this out and mail it to her.

I thank you you so much for this astonishing info.

Just to pitch in here with a suggestion.

There is mental instituations and treatment facilities.

Mental instituations -> STAY AWAY, FAR AWAY. (usually government run)

Treatment Facilities -> Can actually be his best possible option, very expensive in most cases. (usually privately run)

If her son's case is terminal then I would suggest simply moving him to wherever he can get the best care since no facility would at all help him however if his case isnt terminal and can improve or even get cured then at all cost you should consult whatever top rated Treatment facility you can get him to.

I know it allways seem better and in most case is better, to keep a "sick" person under your wing but in some cases its actually way worse specially at a young age do take that route. Not all medical practices dealing with the mentally ill is out to turn them into "Frankensteins love child" and there is many privately run treatment facilities who do care about the patient and try their best to improve their conditions so they can live a full adult life eventually.

Oh omy. That's just terrible, man. How is he doing now? Kicking it out? < meaning doing ok.