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Topic: I hardly have up to $100 again in all my fait bank accounts since I joined BTT - page 2. (Read 572 times)

legendary
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It is so annoying when I look back at the wire transfer transactions I had performed in the past, to the point of charging me as high as $71 for a single transfer if correspondent banks are involved.

A big shame on the centralized fiat because of this extortion!

Can you be more specific about this?, I don't believe a bank can charge up to $71 for a transaction, to me it is fiction.

I don't mean against you investing in bitcoin and spending most of your money in bitcoin but putting it all in bitcoin and not having any fiat or savings in the bank is a bad idea. I don't know are you married? But for me, I am a married person with a job with a stable income but I never thought of putting all my money into one investment, especially bitcoin, a very volatile asset. Hopefully, you have investments other than putting all your eggs in one basket, it won't make you any better.
hero member
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It is so annoying when I look back at the wire transfer transactions I had performed in the past, to the point of charging me as high as $71 for a single transfer if correspondent banks are involved.

A big shame on the centralized fiat because of this extortion!

It is definitely annoying considering the amount of fees they are taking for border transactions. You need to pay for foreign exchange charges, services charges, GS tax and yes of course the bank charges for handling the whole transaction.

I usually keep sending funds to USA for work purpose and you guys might have some idea how worst process it is to go through it.

If you see following screenshots then you would see various stuff.

1. I need to explain them what is the Purpose of remittance?
2. Reason for Remittance
3. Charges for Bearer (intermediate bank charges)


If you go through second screen shot then

1. Exchange rate needs to confirmed
2. They are so greedy they would take charge for delivery of your funds.

As if like they are threatening us our funds might get lost on the way. They are hell crazy.


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Definitely not worth it.

Like same transaction if I have send via bitcoin my wallet would charge me near about 1-2 USD with economic speed.
I don’t have to explain any shit to anyone like from where the money is coming and to whom I am sending.
hero member
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over 99.99% of my money is now in Bitcoin.
Is it 99.99% of your money or your net-worth?
Not my net worth, just the certain amount that was supposed to be wasted in the bank with low interest. It is better to maximize my earnings through the opportunity Bitcoin has given me since I already have an understanding of trading/investments. However, it works for me, and I spend my profits to run my monthly bills.

I don't believe you, and it sounds like a fairytale to me. Living entirely off bitcoin is doable and some people do it, but it requires a lot of work and very much depends on where you live. You need merchants and trading partners willing to accept your digital coins. It's much easier finding those in The States than in a poor Asian or African country. Every-day spending on food and supplies is easier with cash than with bitcoin. Then you have bills and taxes.

The one person I read about who lives entirely off bitcoin is based in Canada. He shops with merchants that accept crypto, buys a lot of gift cards, and turns to Bitcoin ATMs and friends when he needs cash. So even if he earns and spends crypto, he needs cash from time to time, and a lot of the spending is through payment processors that exchange your BTCs to fiat immediately.   
You made me laugh pal! This is more than doble because it's what I do in recent months and is working for me. I only realize that it's a better way to earn passive income than I thought. But mind you, I have alternatives, you can read other replies joined with this for better understanding.

Don't let ideology affect your financial decisions. Managing money should be a purely practical thing. Putting all your money into a purely speculative asset with high volatility is not a good idea. If Bitcoin crashes, you will have to sell at a loss, just to cover your basic needs.
Thanks for the advice! I'm in an investment environment for long, so I do not "put all my eggs in one basket." I have other investments and assets, was just pointing to the liquid assets here.

over 99.99% of my money is now in Bitcoin.

I smirk on this; I don't know why, but is he living using only bitcoin? like if he rented a car, the payment would be in bitcoin? If he buys at a store, does he use bitcoin? How about the other 0.01% of his money and where it goes? I don't believe the OP if this is really his routine unless he will say his investment is 100% in bitcoin, not all his money.
You are one of the people that are getting the whole gist wrong. I referred to the amount in my bank account after all expenses have been sorted out. And if there is a need for me to move in more money, I do it within 10 minutes, so no big deal here.
legendary
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It's really a bad idea to store all your assets in bitcoin, even daily spending money. Bitcoin is an asset class that is resistant to inflation but it is only suitable for the long term and not for the short term. An example: if you hold fiat currency since inflation occurred so far your fiat currency will not lose so much value but if you hold bitcoin at $69k, your asset will lose 75% of its value from the current price. In this case, fiat wins bitcoin.

I don't have issues with my daily expenses, this is about planning, and I have carefully table out my plans before doing this. I've been in the world of investment for a while now, I don't see any immediate issue for now.
I don't know how long you have been in the market but I just wanted to add to you that, bitcoin is a very good investment, history has proven it always bounces back after 4 years and hits a new ATH. But that does not guarantee that it will increase again in the future or will continue to decrease, Bitcoin remains a risky investment and the future is uncertain. As a wise investor, don't put all your eggs in one basket, hope you don't forget this immortal saying.
Everyone has their own vision and investment plan and it's your decision, I wish you luck with your plan.
legendary
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I also think keeping the majority of our savings to Bitcoin is a smart move but keeping 100% isn't.  We always need some fiat in our pocket because we cannot spend Bitcoin anywhere because there are still lots of stores that don't accept it.  I also think it is way better to invest a percentage of our money in Bitcoin than keep it in the bank.  Banks tend to use our money in different investment and will only give us less than 2% annual interest while when we apply for a loan (funny how we borrow our own money) they charges us more than 10x of what interest they give to us.
legendary
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I'm pretty much in the same shoes as OP for many years now. To be clear, because that question came up in the thread, it's 90% of my liquid assets (fiat currencies, other crypto). I don't know the value of my net worth because the value of real estate changes in time and I haven't checked it lately, but I'd say that at current price of bitcoin it's about 50% of all that I own. At 60k USD it was more like 90%. I don't have money on my bank account. I use it only for emergencies and it holds less than 0.01% of my money. I hold about 50 times more in cash than I have in the bank and at least 20 times that cash in bitcoin.
legendary
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So in the short 3 or 4 months since coming on, you've chosen to put it all in on Bitcoin? Congratulations, and well done -- I hope it serves you well, I actually think you've got amazing timing, that's a double bonus if you continue to build up on that savings with DCA.

I would really recommend you don't lose your day job, and also spread your risk. Fiat's nonsense but you probably could save a bit more money for DCA if you actually kept some fiat in those accounts. Earn some interest, and protect it with state bank guarantees. You use them to pay yearly bills and tax anyway. Then you're not forced to liquidate BTC annually to pay off shit like that.

You did mention spending $71 on transfers. Are your recipients now accepting BTC? And they're happy bearing the cost of liquidation when they convert? Curious because I had a bit of a journey convincing my clients to pay BTC.
legendary
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You can as well buy shares in some reputable companies and financial institutions if you are financially buoyant enough.
Yeah but I never could get myself into investing in the stock market. In fact over the past couple of years we had a booming stock market and in certain periods it even gave better profit than bitcoin but even then I couldn't enter it since it never made any sense to me to trade shares like this. I know it is a little weird but I find the whole concept seriously flawed!
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over 99.99% of my money is now in Bitcoin.

@OP, do you have a job or real source of income?
Percentage figures that are difficult to accept in whatever part of the world you live (unless you are still living with your parents). It's not about how skeptical you are of the bank, but one must have a liquid reserve fund for emergencies. Another question, do you always carry your bitcoins anywhere and access them in random places without worry?
sr. member
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  - Most of the community members here on this forum platform know that this forum has helped a lot. With the help of the knowledge and experience of other members here, we have ideas about things that we didn't know before that we now know because of the help of others here and us.

At the same time, it cannot be denied that it also provides some kind of work to the rest of us here, to be honest. This forum platform also encourages us to conduct trading activity in cryptocurrencies or bitcoins to grow our fiat instead of keeping it in banks.

Although I also don't trust banks much because I have seen the system they have implemented for their users. But I'm not saying banks are bad.
legendary
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I am also disappointed with the fiat system but I don't think it is wise for me to just have a total of $100 in all my bank accounts. A huge chunk of my worth is also in Bitcoin, but since I know very well how Bitcoin's price is very volatile, I admit I cannot risk not to have fiat savings.

I have a number of reasons in mind. For one, I won't easily convert my Bitcoin, especially during bear markets. So I have to have fiat for my regular expenses as well as for possible emergencies. After all, spending Bitcoin is not easy where I am.

You mentioned about making money with Bitcoin and your involvement with trading and investment. If you don't like fiat in the banks because they're just using your money for their own benefits, I'm afraid that's exactly what crypto exchanges and investment platforms are also doing with your Bitcoin.

You might want to reconsider your alternatives.
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over 99.99% of my money is now in Bitcoin.

I smirk on this; I don't know why, but is he living using only bitcoin? like if he rented a car, the payment would be in bitcoin? If he buys at a store, does he use bitcoin? How about the other 0.01% of his money and where it goes? I don't believe the OP if this is really his routine unless he will say his investment is 100% in bitcoin, not all his money.

That's a complete joke, even those with large amounts of Bitcoin to an extent still needs fiat to run daily affiars, I am with you on this I think this is a complete story told to earn some merit's. Good he had some already, mission must be accomplished.
BTT must have open your eyes to the bad/power  government and banks had over you. Writing all this without prove seems idiotic to me

I think you need to get more proof from the op before you believe what he said but calling his story names doesn't sound nice in my opinion. The op may be in a region where bitcoin is mostly used so converting all fiat to bitcoin wouldn't be a difficult thing to do since he's a bitcoin believer and he has good knowledge of bitcoin if this is possible that means the op will be glad during the bull run but how is this possible with the current price of bitcoin?
legendary
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BTT has opened my eyes, the fiat rulership had milked me for too long. I was blind before, but now I can clearly see. Thanks to Satoshi Nakamoto!

Like play, I realized I hardly have $100 (conversion) as my total fiat balance in all my bank accounts, over 99.99% of my money is now in Bitcoin. I was slightly using Bitcoin before joining BTT, but this forum has made me a proudly addicted user of Bitcoin (payment, trading and investments). This is a good addition because I am making more money with them unlike the fiat in banks that will just be useless for me and useful for the bank.

It is so annoying when I look back at the wire transfer transactions I had performed in the past, to the point of charging me as high as $71 for a single transfer if correspondent banks are involved.

A big shame on the centralized fiat because of this extortion!
This is a good manifestation but putting uour money on investment, means you are also putting it at risk (since you've mentioned that almost all of your savings were converted to Bitcoin). But indeed there's a chance for profit but consider market behavior as well. Also, quite concerned with using it as a mode of payment especially at this moment wherein market is down for months. I prefer holding or using it as an asset to make profit in the future once bullish trend enter. I am also planning and hoping that one day it will be used as one of the options to pay a service but definitely, it is still too soon for such thing given that adaptation is still on process.
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This thinking is not wise at all, so what will happen if you need money for something urgent, such as unexpected bills, a family visit, a sudden accident, torrential rains, a hurricane and other environmental conditions, a fire near you?

You should invest in bitcoin money that you are not afraid of losing and not everything you own.
You should leave enough money for several months ahead.
Thanks, man. I am thinking that OP has all his daily needs bought out via Bitcoin cos every regular store/market accepts Bitcoin in his/her location. We are all for Bitcoin trust me and you never know how much each of us has invested in Bitcoin, I know I have but we cannot take away the fact that 99% of our daily costs are still paid for in fiat in my location at least regardless of the economic hardship we are going through. It is sad that we are seeing this inflation situation decrease the value of the fiat across the globe but it is what it is and we need to have those cash in hand or the Bank.   
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Is it 99.99% of your money or your net-worth? I used to be like this too but that was majority of my net-worth which scared me because I realized I haven't diversified well enough. Which is why I have been trying to focus more on diversification. Despite my belief in bitcoin's long term potential, my total net-worth is in real estate, gold and bitcoin with the later having the most percentage. I have not found any other viable "asset" that is stand-alone and can be trusted enough for me to invest in yet.
You made a very nice decision mate. In as far as Bitcoin seems to be a potential project one should invest in, it's absolutely too risky to invest almost all your net worth in it. Diversification is the right way to go by. You can as well buy shares in some reputable companies and financial institutions if you are financially buoyant enough. 40-50 % of your investment in Bitcoin is not bad thou.
sr. member
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I am disappointed in fiat because of inflation, its value is not that great, especially if you're in a third world country. Bitcoin is much more different than fiat, it has more value, convenient to have, easily stored, could be access anywhere, anytime, and not easy to stole unlike fiat. Fiat doesn't have volatility like Bitcoin, I mean it doesn't have any bullish season, it's stable and prone to inflation. Storing your fiat in Bitcoin is much better than storing it in bank, because nothing will happen if you keep it in your bank account while still doubting bitcoin.
sr. member
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over 99.99% of my money is now in Bitcoin.

I smirk on this; I don't know why, but is he living using only bitcoin? like if he rented a car, the payment would be in bitcoin? If he buys at a store, does he use bitcoin? How about the other 0.01% of his money and where it goes? I don't believe the OP if this is really his routine unless he will say his investment is 100% in bitcoin, not all his money.

That's a complete joke, even those with large amounts of Bitcoin to an extent still needs fiat to run daily affiars, I am with you on this I think this is a complete story told to earn some merit's. Good he had some already, mission must be accomplished.
BTT must have open your eyes to the bad/power  government and banks had over you. Writing all this without prove seems idiotic to me
hero member
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over 99.99% of my money is now in Bitcoin.

Mate, are you being sarcastic here or something? If 99.99% of your money is in bitcoin right now as you said how do you go about getting things in areas where bitcoin is not acceptable for payment? I can't imagine converting all my fiat to bitcoin because my country is yet to accept bitcoin for payment maybe you have got bitcoin atm in your region that's why you find it very easy to do this if not then I doubt you aren't serious about this, just my opinion though I don't mean to disrespect the op.
sr. member
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BTT has opened my eyes, the fiat rulership had milked me for too long. I was blind before, but now I can clearly see. Thanks to Satoshi Nakamoto!

Like play, I realized I hardly have $100 (conversion) as my total fiat balance in all my bank accounts, over 99.99% of my money is now in Bitcoin. I was slightly using Bitcoin before joining BTT, but this forum has made me a proudly addicted user of Bitcoin (payment, trading and investments). This is a good addition because I am making more money with them unlike the fiat in banks that will just be useless for me and useful for the bank.

It is so annoying when I look back at the wire transfer transactions I had performed in the past, to the point of charging me as high as $71 for a single transfer if correspondent banks are involved.

A big shame on the centralized fiat because of this extortion!

I think an addiction, no matter what it is, is not good. And I wouldn’t advise you to indulge in any form of addiction(bitcoin included).
You mentioned you’ve got 99.99% of your funds in bitcoin. Although that may be applauded by some, I would say it isn’t a good nor smart move. I personally think it’s strange

You do not put all your eggs into a basket; no matter how sturdy it is. That’s why you should share your eggs into various baskets. Diversification is important. I also think you should hold more than .001 of your funds in fiat as it’s undeniably more widely accepted and used.
hero member
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over 99.99% of my money is now in Bitcoin.

I smirk on this; I don't know why, but is he living using only bitcoin? like if he rented a car, the payment would be in bitcoin? If he buys at a store, does he use bitcoin? How about the other 0.01% of his money and where it goes? I don't believe the OP if this is really his routine unless he will say his investment is 100% in bitcoin, not all his money.
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