I hate that famous Gandhi quote - page 2.

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Quote from: freequant on September 08, 2011, 10:47:31 AM

This quote applies to paradigm shifts pretty well.
First people ignore the new paradigm (don't talk to Galileo, people say he is an heretic).
Then they ridicule the paradigm because they fail to understand it. (lol! the earth is round Grin

).
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When did the paradigm shifted first time? Ancient Greeks knew almost 2000 years before Galileo that Earth is round and also calculated the diameter. btw in no way I attempted to derail or hijack the discussion, just out of curiosity and lack of knowledge would like to know, why we forgot that in the first place

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This quote applies to paradigm shifts pretty well.
First people ignore the new paradigm (don't talk to Galileo, people say he is an heretic).
Then they ridicule the paradigm because they fail to understand it. (lol! the earth is round Grin

).
But at some point they start to understand this is real, they take fear and try to destroy it but its already too late.

Winning is not a stage, it was the underlying truth from the beginning.
And this truth arises slowly.

Blockchain based cryptocurrencies already won.
They ARE going to take over a huge part of the economy whether in current form or in another.
There is nothing anyone can do to stop that.
So it is just a question of how long people will take to adjust and understand that the world has changed irreversibly since the genesis block was minted.

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I think it's about trolling, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

First they ignore the troll, then they find him funny, but when they fight him (get trolled by him), he wins.

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Quote from: theymos on September 07, 2011, 12:01:28 AM

It gives everyone an excuse to say that they are winning.

You seem upset

They are winning if you get emotional...

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Quote from: davout on September 07, 2011, 05:07:04 PM

Peter would have so fallen for mybitcoin.com.

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Quote from: Stalin-chan on September 07, 2011, 04:53:11 PM

They are comparing Bitcoin to non-violent protest, Ghandi is describing how people react to non-violent protest.
Bitcoiners think Bitcoin is non-violent protest of federal currency.

So? You need to show that the quote is relevant in this situation for it to have any meaning.

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Quote from: theymos on September 07, 2011, 12:01:28 AM

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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Am I the only one who finds this quote extremely annoying? It gives everyone an excuse to say that they are winning. Even if you sit around doing nothing, you can say that you're on the track to becoming President because everyone is "ignoring you".

Furthermore, it is a simple statement without any proof or real argument. Why is this progression of events likely? Why does having people ignore you, laugh at you, or fight you move you toward winning?

I cringe every time someone just quotes this and says, "Look, we're in stage x! Not long now before we win!". It's a totally pointless thing to say and an excuse to ignore real problems.

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Quote from: Stalin-chan on September 07, 2011, 04:53:11 PM

They are comparing Bitcoin to non-violent protest, Ghandi is describing how people react to non-violent protest.
Bitcoiners think Bitcoin is non-violent protest of federal currency.

I'm sure the feds see it as criminal protest of the tax code, though. Angry

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They are comparing Bitcoin to non-violent protest, Ghandi is describing how people react to non-violent protest.
Bitcoiners think Bitcoin is non-violent protest of federal currency.

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I don't find it "extremely annoying". But it does describe a nonviolent protest of the masses against a tiny ruling class much better than it does anything related to bitcoin. I guess people are saying it b.c they think bitcoin adoption rate will someday soar and bitcoin users will outnumber the bankers, tax collectors, legislators, judges, etc. looking to oppress them.

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Quote from: Nicholas Klein

And, my friends, in this story you have a history of this entire movement. First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you. And that, is what is going to happen to the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America.

Hope this clears everything up.

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Quote from: theymos on September 07, 2011, 12:01:28 AM

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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Am I the only one who finds this quote extremely annoying? It gives everyone an excuse to say that they are winning. Even if you sit around doing nothing, you can say that you're on the track to becoming President because everyone is "ignoring you".

Furthermore, it is a simple statement without any proof or real argument. Why is this progression of events likely? Why does having people ignore you, laugh at you, or fight you move you toward winning?

I cringe every time someone just quotes this and says, "Look, we're in stage x! Not long now before we win!". It's a totally pointless thing to say and an excuse to ignore real problems.

Quotes are just like statistics. You can pretend almost any of them fit your situation whether or not they do, and readers think you're "educated" and obviously smart, and of course too many of them are just morons anyway, and fall for it.

Of course, if you really want to make the point, just do a global search and replace on the whole forum, replacing that quote with "I feel like chicken tonight." It probably won't even materially affect any of the conversations around the quote.

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Quote

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Am I the only one who finds this quote extremely annoying? It gives everyone an excuse to say that they are winning. Even if you sit around doing nothing, you can say that you're on the track to becoming President because everyone is "ignoring you".

Furthermore, it is a simple statement without any proof or real argument. Why is this progression of events likely? Why does having people ignore you, laugh at you, or fight you move you toward winning?

I cringe every time someone just quotes this and says, "Look, we're in stage x! Not long now before we win!". It's a totally pointless thing to say and an excuse to ignore real problems.

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