Topic: I have 0.02 btc , want to invest (Read 17002 times)

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It's your right to see a ponzi where is not a ponzi...
You are lucky...i'm patient (lol)
I will ask you a question:
Have you already visited my faucets and other many sites?
i do not explain from where i have got all the money i give away...
and i give away...are these ponzi?
No
Why should be this system we talk about a ponzi if it is based on the same principle than my other sites?
it is only the "give back" which is different and for who it is given back.
I like what is different...(lol)

Have you ever bought a real stock before? Public companies generally have 100+ page documents that detail where they are bringing income from, market analyses, personal information on the public figures, etc. You are providing nothing. We still don't even know how your site earns money. You claim it's not a ponzi, but that you're not using the money for anything and the value goes "up" as more invest. That is literally a ponzi.

for once someone is right:"90s-style in its look"
of course ...nothing is risk free 100%
so long you live you risk to die.
Dividends from where?
Have you already run a website?
You open a page...a white page.
This page makes potentialy little cash...
ok not much...I would say 1 satoshi or so in a year?
But not zero.
Ok...1 satoshi income or so but certainly ...how could I say?...outcome.(hosting,advertising perhaps(for a white page (lol) electricity...etc...)
if you put a link on this page...the link is worth something...etc...etc...

My site(I call the start-up) is worth something.
it is worth something because it makes real direct cash and real indirect cash hard to estimate.

From this cash I pay dividends.
I am clear?

I repeat it repeat it repeat ti:
The cash you send me is not invested.
It is just used to calculate your prorata invested.


After you have to trust.
Aniwhere you invest you have to trust.
If you do not trust DO NOT invest.
But it is not only a question of trust.
if you estimate that the profit is too low,then do not invest.
I have never said:
Invest it is interesting for you.
I have ever said:
Invest if you believe that it is interesting for you.
or invest if you have sleeping bitcoin and if the btc transfer fees are not higher than the dividends.


It's a startup and the business plan is more a general plan who in fact does not very matter.
Any way fex or many dividends,the market will regulate it.
if we have x dividends the market will invest y or so.
if we have 10x dividends the market will invest 10y or so.

Be patient.
We have all we need.
dividends and investments
we can see that the dividends are increasing...
we can see that the investment are decreasing...and the ROI increasing

The "market" will soon or late invest because the market invest always if it is worth.
Then certainly the ROI will decrease...etc...and all will be "market regulated".

I understand you perfectly:
You are so used to see high promises and so often scammed that in your mind it is impossible that a person (the person is me)(lol) programmes for the fun a system where people can invest and ean few satoshi for the fun.

Let pass till 2 or 3 weeks...
and you will understand better the system where individually you will certainly not earn much,but where satoshi will be earnt.

I repeat it:
let's suppose that only one peason trust and he or she invest just 0.001BTC then the person will take all the dividends alone.
Do you believe that on the wide web world (lol) one will not find an second investor?...or more if it is interesting?

My purpose is not that you invest in my system systematicly (lol) but that you analyse the situation and then invest ot not.
your problem  (not mine) is that you cannot know what people will do after you...
that is the part of game in this system.
but it is the same in real stocks...you do not know what people will do...if you buy a share and other share holders sell  you will lose.
Here it is almost the same...but with the difference that with my system it is not lose or gain,it is little gain or bigger gain.

My system is what it is,and it is not a system to please at everyone.
It's just a system...my system.(lol)

Better invest in bitcoin itself. with 20 milli you cant buy any mining equipment. But you can buy some cloud mining contract. Otherwise, save it in cold storage and forget it for next 10 years. You will get better return for your investment.

This. I personally require a business plan, unless it's a fairly small investment and I feel like the potential upside is worth the risk of complete loss. In any real investment, though, I'd require a full business plan ahead of time to vet out.

@winspiral
unless you have a legit plan for the money and not just asking for investors one after another to pay the previous one, nobody would trust you.

After reading your post (I've also been to your site, but found it confusing and 90s-style in its look), I still don't get what you're using the money for. All you keep saying is if people pay, they will get dividends. Dividends from where? NOTHING is risk-free. You give your money to a federally-insured bank, and you're still taking a risk.

Do you have certainly heard about faucets?

most of them are not scams.

With my investment system it is almost the same principle but the site is not a faucet but a investment site.

And because we are at the start of the site,I talk about a start-up.

if you anlyze what one can analyse you see that the profit is so far very low,but increasing.

As I said otherwhere,the first investors are the pionneers...

it is why I ...so far do not say:
invest in an old-site but in a start-up.

I only say "no-rick" to lose...I do not talk about how much profit will be made.

My plan id for all the people who have speeping satoshi on their wallet.
In 100 days many people will say:
it were been better if I had invested in winspiral's start-up...because during the 100 days i have earnt nothing and with winspiral's system i has few satoshi more...
i do not say more and all the discussion comes because I have read here to "absolute" word saying that all investment are risky or ponzi or what you want...
i just said:
no risk no lost only profit.
Why discuss about what I say and what I contest here about your "all are..."

If you contest my saying it is why you believe I'm a scammer...
here is said all risky...and I say no-risk.
we cannot all be right...
i'm and right or wrong and the other party is the opposit.

The problematick for you is not to know from where I have the dividends...
The problematick for you is to get dividends.



I talked about the start-up (it's the investment site it-self who will increase...)
Where do i invest all the money from the investors?
I do not invest it...
As I explained it other where it is only to fix the "at prorata" for the dividends.
I could do it for free...but if I do it  for free,i cannot fix the "at prorata"

The start-up is now 20 days old...let time to people to analyse the system and we will see what the "market" will do.
You have already what you need to take a choice.
As said...if only one investor...he will take alone all the dividends.
this will attract other investors...except if the only one investor invest to much...but this is his problem not mine.

I said you:
follow the pending investment graphic...
if the investment will fall down...the ROI will be high...
be sure...the market will then invest.
You cannot go against the market.



I have read and my system has nothing to see with a ponzi sheme.

ok. lets assume it is not ponzi.
what is this "start-up" you are talking abou?
where do you invest all the money (investment) that comes to you which will allow you to return profit to your investors?


Trust Is Earned Not Given


i think you seriously need to read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

Your investment system is still little bit shady.
Actually where you can earn money for pay share to investor? Invest in a "start-up"

You are right...I have so far only meet scams...it is why i have programmed a no-scam...(lol)
the difference with other ponzi owners and me is that i'm known on the net for over 20 years...

thank you sir but i promis to my self i will never invest again...i have been searching for investment site many times but all of them are scam.its good in the first but in the end scam..

My quotes are for "Engg.Chaks" the topic beginner...


the difference is big.
a ponzi pays you with the investments from other investors.
I pay you with the profit from the start-up.

Ok you have to trust me...if you do not trust me...do not invest.
All the priciple is based on the trust...
You can follow the "trust" on the pending investment graphic.
the less is invested...the higher the ROI.
let's suppose you are the only one who has invested...then you have 100% of the global dividends.
if you are 2 investors...it's fifty-fifty or "at prorata"

Do you feel the difference with a ponzi?
it's a real investment.
if no profit...no dividends
profit...dividends at prorata.
BUT never a lost.
do you know ponzi with sure only profit or no lost?

what do you mean by "my invest system"?
is it what you have put in your signature space?

can you explain how is it different from any other ponzi scheme, because your website has zero information on it.


you just saying it is not ponzi does not make it any different!

Thanks but i am not interested
Please don't quote me again and again

follow my start-up investment plan and you will correct your opinion...
no need to invest to follow...all is in transparence.
You can in all transparence see when dividends are paid and cashback done...
of course...you have to wait 100 days to see if I 'm a scammer (lol)

yea investment site not totaly trusted if you invest there 50/50 chance to get the profit or lose your btc...... dont invest to any investment sites all of are scam.... try you some good like buying high potencial account and join to sign campaign after that you sell the account expensive....

There is risk in thay too..if just by mistake your new account Got Red Trust then it will be useless...Nothing is risk free in this world

all investment plan has high risk... the goood way to invest your btc is to buy higher account here.i promis you will never be loss....