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Quote from: Bolivar_Tony on May 24, 2023, 12:48:31 PM

Quote from: Sun2k on May 05, 2023, 02:45:48 PM

Hi everyone,

1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

1. Price is determine by the ,market force, ie the theory of demand and supply, the more people are willing to buy the more the price go up and the less people want to buy the prices goes down because more people are willing to sell and few people are willing to buy.

2. it depends on the coin, if it's a good coin with real work usage and community backed, then it is a good idea, but if it's all these meme coins, you might have to think again before you buy them again

Yep, that factors are valid for determining the price of a coin that is just listed. If people knows there's a demand for a coin, they are more willing to rush at the listing price or near it to gather it in short they are FOMO. But as we know there are coins that only has sharp market bumps but minutes after being followed by heavy selling pressure that is cause by flippers or short term trader that only want to get profit from the opportunity. If the project has the real demand, the coin will stay near it's peak price as the project community is guarding it's support price. Overall, The price after the listing will all depends on different variables and couldn't be answered directly.

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Quote from: Sun2k on May 05, 2023, 02:45:48 PM

Hi everyone,

1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

1. Price is determine by the ,market force, ie the theory of demand and supply, the more people are willing to buy the more the price go up and the less people want to buy the prices goes down because more people are willing to sell and few people are willing to buy.

2. it depends on the coin, if it's a good coin with real work usage and community backed, then it is a good idea, but if it's all these meme coins, you might have to think again before you buy them again

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1. The pre-sale price of a token is often set at a lower value to incentivize early investors and create a sense of exclusivity. The listing price on exchanges such as Binance, on the other hand, is determined by market factors such as supply and demand pressures, investor mood, trading volume, and liquidity. It is crucial to remember that the initial listing price may fluctuate significantly over the first few days of trade as the market evaluates the real worth of the token.

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Quote from: woez on May 10, 2023, 01:38:47 AM

While it is true as you imply that Venture Capitalist (VC) tend to sell their tokens below the presale price, this is not always the case. They may have a variety of reasons to sell their tokens, including diversifying their portfolio or taking profits. Additionally, some VC may have lock-up periods or other restrictions that prevent them from selling tokens immediately after launch. Normally the price at the time the token is launched, factors like market demand, utility, and overall market sentiment play an important role I think.

VCs are coming in for the profit not for the welfare of the rest of the investors. They do have lock in periods and these are never declared to public investors but only inside closed door meeting with the VCs. Once that lock in period ends, they dump immediately and cash out of the project. That is the major time when the project loses ground and the investors are left with nothing but dust because the projects rarely come out of that dump.

This has been the reality with many projects if you look through the history. One of the reasons why you should give a project a couple of years before investing and if invested early, exit early too.

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Quote from: RussianEnglishTranslation on May 09, 2023, 09:25:29 PM

Often times the price is determined by the presale price given to VC. The price should not dump below that price or else VC would be selling at a loss.

While it is true as you imply that Venture Capitalist (VC) tend to sell their tokens below the presale price, this is not always the case. They may have a variety of reasons to sell their tokens, including diversifying their portfolio or taking profits. Additionally, some VC may have lock-up periods or other restrictions that prevent them from selling tokens immediately after launch. Normally the price at the time the token is launched, factors like market demand, utility, and overall market sentiment play an important role I think.

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Quote from: Sun2k on May 05, 2023, 02:45:48 PM

Hi everyone,

1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

Often times the price is determined by the presale price given to VC. The price should not dump below that price or else VC would be selling at a loss.

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Quote from: Sun2k on May 05, 2023, 02:45:48 PM

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2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

For me here is no, because we already experience a lot of this, especially for tokens that were airdropped recently, like Aptos and Arbitrum.
As you can see, on these both tokens, on the very first they started to be traded, the price started on top and it is dropping slowly.
That's why a lot of people are waiting for a dump before buying, or some people that got airdropped tokens tend to sell them after it is available to trade and they will just rebuy at a cheaper price.
I am not sure if this will still apply if we are in a bull season.

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Quote from: Desmong on May 08, 2023, 05:50:08 PM

The liquidity of the token would determines what the price may be . There are other features we can look at that can determine the price of a token which is based on the demand and supply. The more people buy a token the market cap will increase with an increase in liquidity of the coins. The buying rate always pushes the price of the token to the bull.

yes the initial liquidity from team only determines the price in the short term not the long term, what determines the price in the long term is the liquidity formed from purchases made by investors or the community. therefore it is useless if only the initial liquidity is large but in the end the buying value is less than the selling value, it causes the price to fall slowly.

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I think that does tokens they have a specific price then gave him bring the lunch of a turkey and what makes the price of token goes off it is when it gathered influence when more people invest in that particular token it makes the particular to come to Skyrocket to a higher price so I think these are what determined the high price of token and low price of token

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It is the traders who determine the price whether they are sellers or buyers, when the market is launched or opened everyone moves to buy and sell at the same time and they are the ones who determine that, if asking the pre-sale price it depends on the project team looking at the supply as well as the amount of tokens to be disbursed release on the market the possibility of calculation like that.

I was also one of the participants who took part in the SUI pre-sale and I benefited when the market was released and opened on binance and other exchanges where I was selling it at $1.5 at the time and it allowed me to make a profit because people wanted to buy it at that price while I put it at that price for sale. that's how the crypto trading system works, if you want to go deeper and clear learn a lot about it on google or use AI to understand your question

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Quote from: Desmong on May 08, 2023, 05:50:08 PM

The liquidity of the token would determines what the price may be . There are other features we can look at that can determine the price of a token which is based on the demand and supply. The more people buy a token the market cap will increase with an increase in liquidity of the coins. The buying rate always pushes the price of the token to the bull.

Demand and supply is highest future that determine the lifespan of altcoin so even in Bitcoin when is the demand is higher than the supply in cryptocurrency or in Bitcoin especially bitcoin it at on the increment and decrement of Bitcoin, so I believe that or any other coin at on the same capacity

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The liquidity of the token would determines what the price may be . There are other features we can look at that can determine the price of a token which is based on the demand and supply. The more people buy a token the market cap will increase with an increase in liquidity of the coins. The buying rate always pushes the price of the token to the bull.

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First to invest in altcoin you need to buy from pre-sale or IDO, although they might promise to list at $1 but it's not certain they must list at that price. If they are listing in a good exchange like Binance then good but the listing price might be $1.50 but the buying pressure and market strength might lead it to around $2.5 or more, as a good investor whenever you bought at some cent and they got listed all you could do is to sell off some percentage of your holding and keep monitoring the market. If the market increases again then you may sell again but for exchange like binance it may likely see $5 before dumping.

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Quote from: Sun2k on May 05, 2023, 02:45:48 PM

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Well, i have no experience in these things because i don't buy tokens/altcoins, i am an avid Bitcoin enthusiast, so i try as much as possible to buy and hodl only Bitcoin. Anyway from the experiences of others and from what i have read online, it might not be a good idea, these tokens are pump and dump coins and they can only survive on hype alone, quite a lot of them dump once they are listed. Mind you that a whole lot of these tokens were created by their owners to get rich themselves, thus they put no work into the projects, once they get the money they want, they dump it in an exchange and that's the end of the coin, if you're hodling it by then, i'm afraid you'd be on the receiving end of things.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on May 06, 2023, 02:59:19 AM

From my observation, the price at launch is arbitrary set by the project team during the prelaunch time with various marketing channels like ICOs, IDOs or even IEOs and teams test the waters to see how it goes. The projects become immediately sold out if the price is deemed to be too good for the project. Some times the projects don't get sold out too and it can be from negative assessment of what they tend to bring to the market. I've participated in several launchpads and such reactions are made clear there too.

Thank you chief. Like you said the listing price of a token is determined by the team. Then the hype, marketing, buy pressure, use-cases can do the rest. During presales a project can tell you at what price they are selling or at what marketcap and they can also tell you what price or marketcap they are listing. If the team doesn't do well to push the project forward, it may not go beyond the listing price and can take a deep dive into the abyss and never to be seen again.

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First, the market decides the price for such a tokens or coin and of course the hype it brings to the crypto community of what project is about. Of course if listed on Binance, surely it will have a good price from the token sale price like SUI you mentioned. Secondly, never buy token upon listing because it will surely DIP after listing on it. Wait for a better chance and timing in order to give your buy orders and don't look further because market is in correction, it is the right time to buy of your likings.

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Quote from: Sun2k on May 05, 2023, 02:45:48 PM

1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

This comes from the project owners , usually they do with their own profits in mind. They will dump on the investors so they can cashout at big consolidated amount and then abandon the project, eventually. It is how these newly launched altcoins work. They are scamming, but in a manner in which the investors never understand. I might be proven wrong, but that is what I have been observing for the last few years.

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2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

If you think the project is legit, give it a 2year period for observation before you buy in it. Usually the scams/rugpulls/shitcoins get abandoned by then and thus you will keep your money safe.

Sorry to break you bubble mate. Undecided

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Quote from: Sun2k on May 05, 2023, 02:45:48 PM

Hi everyone,

1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

The price of token is determined by the demand and supply theory, meaning that when SUI was listed, people set the price they want to sell, if many people are willing to buy at that price, then the price stands, the more people are willing to buy at the price, the more people pushes the price up, until it gets to a point, more people are willing to sell and few people are willing to buy then the price starts to go down, until it finds new support again.

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Quote from: Sun2k on May 05, 2023, 02:45:48 PM

Hi everyone,

1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

As mentioned by ither users, the price on listing is determined by the project itself but its potential market price will then be determined by the demand a token will create in the eyes of investors. With regards on buying a coin after being listed, it will depend on the token itself. If it is really promising then ofcourse going at it would be a good idea but if not and only driven by the idea of missing the opportunity, then that would be a gamble already. Also with instances of buying when the price have already increased by huge percentage, you could be the liquidation of those who have bought early. Always manage the risk and gauge the tendencies from doing so.

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Quote from: Sun2k on May 05, 2023, 02:45:48 PM

Hi everyone,

1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

1, I don't think anyone sets the price at launch, but they do pre-sale and usually the pre-sale price is the base price of the coin, and after entering a market like binance, the offer price determines

2. If you are sure, I don't think there is anything wrong, but here we are required to be careful in making decisions

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