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sr. member
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December 10, 2013, 06:39:12 PM
#28
The whole "Just buy BTC thing" is a complete fallacy.

When was the last time that buying stuff actually satisfied anybody for more than 3 days?

With mining, you get to generate your own bits and bytes, which then you can buy stuff with, or hold it, or trade it for fiat, or gold, or silver, or pu$$y or whatever.

When you're mining, you're your own central bank. And, best of all, you did not have to be ratified by anybody.

It simply generates money because you told it to generate money, hooked it up to your network, programmed it, whatever.

It simply does not get any better than that.


 Smiley

 Grin
full member
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General consensus is to invest in the bitcoins themselves, although if you bought at 1200 last week, you'd be down 25% right now, so...

If you're looking to spend money now, and get devices now, hit up the bitmine threads in group buy.  They ship this week, and will ROI even with only half of december mining.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-clos-shipped-giveaway-bitmain-antminer-180-ghs-300-units-364342  They're not a great long term investment, but they're available now, and are the most likely thing to return the investment quickly.  You can take the earnings from that, and reinvest in the new stuff coming out in feb 2014.

That's BitMain, not BitMine.  Different companies.  BitMain is currently auctioning/selling the AntMiner  BitMain is only selling preorders for the CoinCraft series of miners.
apologies, yes.  i typoed.  :-p  as you did.  ;-)

WAHAHA!  Too funny!  BitMain and BitMine are just too similar.

But I tell you what, BitMain makes a damn nice miner.  They seemingly came out of nowhere with one if the best built miners I have in my possession.  The only thing that is holding them back from massive success is questionable distribution methods.  Auctions and group buys, why?
From the sounds of things, it's their production volumes.  They had an excellent week, and built 150 units?  Sounds like low budget pick-and-place, or manual builds.  And the auctions and group buys sound like a small company that's keeping their head on their shoulders; frankly.  No delusions of grandeur.

I'm super excited to get my hands on a couple of their chips and build my own system, but the 10k minimum chip buy is out of my price range.  Requiring that level of commitment also speaks towards a smaller company...  either they need that much to get their manufacturers attention, or they don't have the capital to risk on smaller, riskier ventures.  I would guess they were planning an ASIC, and found themselves unexpectedly ahead of the other manufacturers, and are rushing to capitalize.

Either way, excellent chips, excellent miners, and shipping early enough to be nearly profitable.  Now to find a way to buy samples...
hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!
General consensus is to invest in the bitcoins themselves, although if you bought at 1200 last week, you'd be down 25% right now, so...

If you're looking to spend money now, and get devices now, hit up the bitmine threads in group buy.  They ship this week, and will ROI even with only half of december mining.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-clos-shipped-giveaway-bitmain-antminer-180-ghs-300-units-364342  They're not a great long term investment, but they're available now, and are the most likely thing to return the investment quickly.  You can take the earnings from that, and reinvest in the new stuff coming out in feb 2014.

That's BitMain, not BitMine.  Different companies.  BitMain is currently auctioning/selling the AntMiner  BitMain is only selling preorders for the CoinCraft series of miners.
apologies, yes.  i typoed.  :-p  as you did.  ;-)

WAHAHA!  Too funny!  BitMain and BitMine are just too similar.

But I tell you what, BitMain makes a damn nice miner.  They seemingly came out of nowhere with one if the best built miners I have in my possession.  The only thing that is holding them back from massive success is questionable distribution methods.  Auctions and group buys, why?
full member
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General consensus is to invest in the bitcoins themselves, although if you bought at 1200 last week, you'd be down 25% right now, so...

If you're looking to spend money now, and get devices now, hit up the bitmine threads in group buy.  They ship this week, and will ROI even with only half of december mining.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-clos-shipped-giveaway-bitmain-antminer-180-ghs-300-units-364342  They're not a great long term investment, but they're available now, and are the most likely thing to return the investment quickly.  You can take the earnings from that, and reinvest in the new stuff coming out in feb 2014.

That's BitMain, not BitMine.  Different companies.  BitMain is currently auctioning/selling the AntMiner  BitMain is only selling preorders for the CoinCraft series of miners.
apologies, yes.  i typoed.  :-p  as you did.  ;-)
legendary
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The whole "Just buy BTC thing" is a complete fallacy.

When was the last time that buying stuff actually satisfied anybody for more than 3 days?

With mining, you get to generate your own bits and bytes, which then you can buy stuff with, or hold it, or trade it for fiat, or gold, or silver, or pu$$y or whatever.

When you're mining, you're your own central bank. And, best of all, you did not have to be ratified by anybody.

It simply generates money because you told it to generate money, hooked it up to your network, programmed it, whatever.

It simply does not get any better than that.


Hold on, we can trade BTC for pu$$y?
+1 ?

You ain't heard of "Bitch's for Bitcoins" have you  Roll Eyes  Cheesy

The killer app for BTC...
legendary
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The whole "Just buy BTC thing" is a complete fallacy.

When was the last time that buying stuff actually satisfied anybody for more than 3 days?

With mining, you get to generate your own bits and bytes, which then you can buy stuff with, or hold it, or trade it for fiat, or gold, or silver, or pu$$y or whatever.

When you're mining, you're your own central bank. And, best of all, you did not have to be ratified by anybody.

It simply generates money because you told it to generate money, hooked it up to your network, programmed it, whatever.

It simply does not get any better than that.


Hold on, we can trade BTC for pu$$y?
+1 ?

You ain't heard of "Bitch's for Bitcoins" have you  Roll Eyes  Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 501
The whole "Just buy BTC thing" is a complete fallacy.

When was the last time that buying stuff actually satisfied anybody for more than 3 days?

With mining, you get to generate your own bits and bytes, which then you can buy stuff with, or hold it, or trade it for fiat, or gold, or silver, or pu$$y or whatever.

When you're mining, you're your own central bank. And, best of all, you did not have to be ratified by anybody.

It simply generates money because you told it to generate money, hooked it up to your network, programmed it, whatever.

It simply does not get any better than that.


Hold on, we can trade BTC for pu$$y?
+1 ?
MZD
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7k for 110,000kh/s? where?

ehh.... You mean 11,000 KH/s? A few 280x?
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
The whole "Just buy BTC thing" is a complete fallacy.

When was the last time that buying stuff actually satisfied anybody for more than 3 days?

With mining, you get to generate your own bits and bytes, which then you can buy stuff with, or hold it, or trade it for fiat, or gold, or silver, or pu$$y or whatever.

When you're mining, you're your own central bank. And, best of all, you did not have to be ratified by anybody.

It simply generates money because you told it to generate money, hooked it up to your network, programmed it, whatever.

It simply does not get any better than that.


Hold on, we can trade BTC for pu$$y?
hero member
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7k for 110,000kh/s? where?
MZD
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Now were getting somewhere. I'm starting to think Scrypt is the way to go. I can buy 11000KH/S right now and ROI in 6 weeks. That and LTC or other Scrypt coins aren't difficulty wont skyrocket for some months.

Question is can I REALLY cash in (convert to BTC OR LTC) these alt alt coins like Neocoin, Galaxycoin, and Philosopherstone. LOL.

That being said I guess any BTC ASIC could also mine SHA-256 alt coins as well...

Hmm...much to ponder so little time.
legendary
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Buy some coins that havent been pumped to death.. look lower on coinmarketcap.com... 10 to 25 should be good.
sr. member
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Mining difficulty is going to do something crazy in the next 2 months. We should have 2THs being mined by the public by the end of the month. Note all this power is already on the network and we doubled the total hashing in 4 weeks. I think we will see some scary numbers come March. Play around with a mining calculator with the difficulty at 5 billion and see if this is a wise investment.

Note I think we see 10k USD/Bitcoin by the end of 2014.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
The whole "Just buy BTC thing" is a complete fallacy.

When was the last time that buying stuff actually satisfied anybody for more than 3 days?

With mining, you get to generate your own bits and bytes, which then you can buy stuff with, or hold it, or trade it for fiat, or gold, or silver, or pu$$y or whatever.

When you're mining, you're your own central bank. And, best of all, you did not have to be ratified by anybody.

It simply generates money because you told it to generate money, hooked it up to your network, programmed it, whatever.

It simply does not get any better than that.


 Smiley
hero member
Activity: 529
Merit: 501
The whole "Just buy BTC thing" is a complete fallacy.

When was the last time that buying stuff actually satisfied anybody for more than 3 days?

With mining, you get to generate your own bits and bytes, which then you can buy stuff with, or hold it, or trade it for fiat, or gold, or silver, or pu$$y or whatever.

When you're mining, you're your own central bank. And, best of all, you did not have to be ratified by anybody.

It simply generates money because you told it to generate money, hooked it up to your network, programmed it, whatever.

It simply does not get any better than that.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
General consensus is to invest in the bitcoins themselves, although if you bought at 1200 last week, you'd be down 25% right now, so...

If you're looking to spend money now, and get devices now, hit up the bitmine threads in group buy.  They ship this week, and will ROI even with only half of december mining.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-clos-shipped-giveaway-bitmain-antminer-180-ghs-300-units-364342  They're not a great long term investment, but they're available now, and are the most likely thing to return the investment quickly.  You can take the earnings from that, and reinvest in the new stuff coming out in feb 2014.

That's BitMain, not BitMine.  Different companies.  BitMain is currently auctioning/selling the AntMiner  BitMain is only selling preorders for the CoinCraft series of miners.
hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!
Buy coins

/thread


seriously, if you ASK ANY miners here if they would have made more buy just holding on their btc, they all will say yes.

ROI for mining is only in fiat.



Really, lol.  No we won't!  I'm simply not a bitcoin investor.  Period.  I'm a miner.  Buying and holding is not for everyone.  Many people here think the same way.

Btw, how do you increase your bitcoin holdings if you only "buy and hold"?  You will always have the same amount of bitcoins that you originally bought.

Miners can mine and hold, mine and sell and/or mine and reinvest.  You can only buy and hold... and then eventually sell, I suppose.  And then... surprise!  You profit in fiat too... if you're lucky.
sr. member
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With the market the way it is, buy coins.

Wait till it dips into the $600-700 range again, buy, and sit on them. You'll make money back FAR faster than mining..

sr. member
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But you can't buy a 2th machine for $7k now. You can preorder one, it will probably take you till march at the earliest to receive it. That will cut into your btc production by a large factor. If there were 2th machines available now (heck, if there were 1th machines) for that price, they would sell like hotcakes.
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December 09, 2013, 11:48:29 PM
#9
General consensus is to invest in the bitcoins themselves, although if you bought at 1200 last week, you'd be down 25% right now, so...

If you're looking to spend money now, and get devices now, hit up the bitmine threads in group buy.  They ship this week, and will ROI even with only half of december mining.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-clos-shipped-giveaway-bitmain-antminer-180-ghs-300-units-364342  They're not a great long term investment, but they're available now, and are the most likely thing to return the investment quickly.  You can take the earnings from that, and reinvest in the new stuff coming out in feb 2014.
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