I have been given negative trust for unclear reason?

Deena

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Instead of offering money to smartguy143 try offering it to Vod through a Prayer Message. Who knows your negative trust may disappear.

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I will ignore your Prayer Messages unless you donate to 1CDyx8AUTiYXS1ThcBU3vy4SJWQq6pdFMH

kenzie95

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-I think this is non-sense, since the guy who gave me negative trust is not even active member here, he doesn't accept my offer to give him money and overall this negative trust is pure non-sense. It's sad that VOD is not answering me at all..

kenzie95

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Andd 1 month later BUMPPP

kenzie95

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kenzie95

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kenzie95

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Your name says it all.. You can't lie me if I have my own eyes and see that the service stopped way before 2017. Please can any1 bring Vod here, this starts to be non sense.

smartguy143

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Quote from: kenzie95 on October 18, 2017, 03:47:18 PM

Quote from: smartguy143 on October 18, 2017, 03:17:10 PM

Quote from: smartguy143 on October 18, 2017, 03:11:54 PM

Quote from: kenzie95 on October 18, 2017, 01:36:06 PM

I didn't stop paying but the service stopped working as you probably know (that's not my problem tho) so I have nothing to do with the account. As I said, last payment or those 12$ i didn't even see that I got those, so according to that I couldn't send you any money. I'm willing to give u 15$, as the account was not my problem. That's my final word and I would really love if Vod could get here and decide what happens ..

The service stopped recently.. I could have earned lot more during that period when the service was on... But you became greedy at that time and stopped paying me...

If you are willing to pay 52$ tell me, otherwise rest is your wish... I can't do anything...

The peerchecker work stopped this year, and you scammed me july 2016... So all these months I could have earned lot more using your account, so I want the 40$ too...

What are you talking about? Peerchecker stopped working this year? Did u even read that thread? There are no posts since june 2016 and it stopped paying in may... Obviously you're the greedy one

He stopped the thread because there was no spots left for new members or any other reason. But he was paying since this year... You can ask any other person who was working for peerchecker....

YOu stopped paying thats it... You were not bothered about how the work is or anything else.. You just stopped paying and forcefully I had to stop work in your id as I was not getting payment. So, clearly you should return the money that I paid for account.... And 12$ outstanding payment of peerchecker....

kenzie95

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Quote from: smartguy143 on October 18, 2017, 03:17:10 PM

Quote from: smartguy143 on October 18, 2017, 03:11:54 PM

Quote from: kenzie95 on October 18, 2017, 01:36:06 PM

I didn't stop paying but the service stopped working as you probably know (that's not my problem tho) so I have nothing to do with the account. As I said, last payment or those 12$ i didn't even see that I got those, so according to that I couldn't send you any money. I'm willing to give u 15$, as the account was not my problem. That's my final word and I would really love if Vod could get here and decide what happens ..

The service stopped recently.. I could have earned lot more during that period when the service was on... But you became greedy at that time and stopped paying me...

If you are willing to pay 52$ tell me, otherwise rest is your wish... I can't do anything...

The peerchecker work stopped this year, and you scammed me july 2016... So all these months I could have earned lot more using your account, so I want the 40$ too...

What are you talking about? Peerchecker stopped working this year? Did u even read that thread? There are no posts since june 2016 and it stopped paying in may... Obviously you're the greedy one

smartguy143

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Quote from: smartguy143 on October 18, 2017, 03:11:54 PM

Quote from: kenzie95 on October 18, 2017, 01:36:06 PM

I didn't stop paying but the service stopped working as you probably know (that's not my problem tho) so I have nothing to do with the account. As I said, last payment or those 12$ i didn't even see that I got those, so according to that I couldn't send you any money. I'm willing to give u 15$, as the account was not my problem. That's my final word and I would really love if Vod could get here and decide what happens ..

The service stopped recently.. I could have earned lot more during that period when the service was on... But you became greedy at that time and stopped paying me...

If you are willing to pay 52$ tell me, otherwise rest is your wish... I can't do anything...

The peerchecker work stopped this year, and you scammed me july 2016... So all these months I could have earned lot more using your account, so I want the 40$ too...

smartguy143

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Quote from: kenzie95 on October 18, 2017, 01:36:06 PM

I didn't stop paying but the service stopped working as you probably know (that's not my problem tho) so I have nothing to do with the account. As I said, last payment or those 12$ i didn't even see that I got those, so according to that I couldn't send you any money. I'm willing to give u 15$, as the account was not my problem. That's my final word and I would really love if Vod could get here and decide what happens ..

The service stopped recently.. I could have earned lot more during that period when the service was on... But you became greedy at that time and stopped paying me...

If you are willing to pay 52$ tell me, otherwise rest is your wish... I can't do anything...

kenzie95

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I didn't stop paying but the service stopped working as you probably know (that's not my problem tho) so I have nothing to do with the account. As I said, last payment or those 12$ i didn't even see that I got those, so according to that I couldn't send you any money. I'm willing to give u 15$, as the account was not my problem. That's my final word and I would really love if Vod could get here and decide what happens ..

smartguy143

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Quote from: kenzie95 on October 16, 2017, 12:17:47 PM

I meant they dont proove anything, like the proof of me scamming him, but they do proove that I sold him the account. I'm not sure whats the problem exactly cause its clearly visible and stated that i SOLD him the account. I didn't borrow him account, gave him for use or smth like that, it was a product which was sold. Not sure why do I have to give back money and therefore be accused of scam. I didn't offer any refunds or something so I really see no point of this accusation.

The account's btc wallet was with you.. You were to receive the money from peerchecker and forward the money to me. So, as you had stopped paying me, even after getting the payment, I asked you to return the money that I had given you to buy the account... Why are you acting smart, as if you don't remember anything....

smartguy143

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Quote from: lenoli on October 16, 2017, 10:03:28 AM

Quote from: kenzie95 on October 16, 2017, 09:52:50 AM

Np I can explain.

So there used to be a service called Peerchecker, where you would basically type captcha and get paid for it, it was legit.
There were limited accounts which means not every1 could do the work so people started selling their accounts (including me). So what happened is I sold him the account, and after few days paying rates dropped and he said that the job became too hard cause its paying low (u can see that in screenshots). So he literally asked me to give him back the money for which he bought the account (40$) cause he didn't want to work anymore, and when i refused he decided to open scam accusation vs me, which is ridic..

Hope this made it somewhat clear.

can you provide of any prove what are you telling? because i cannot find any screenshots you are talking about. with this story only, i think Vod willnot delete your red trust.

you must be more clear and have some prove of your story...

What a big liar you are kenzie... I was in need of that account as I didn't had any other work. But you stopped paying me, and didn't payed the due 12$ also. Even after asking you many times about the account you didn't replied.... And neither the rates dropped nor the captchas became hard, you became greedy... And what was the use of your account when you were not paying.

I needed that account so much at that time.. But as you stopped paying I had to stop working... So, that's the entire story...

So I want total 52$. 40$ of account and 12$ my hard earned money... If you are ready to give then send it otherwise just leave it as it is, as I have no plans of removing your negative trust if you don't return my hard earned money.....

smartguy143

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Look guys, first he took 40$ from me for buying his account , then he stopped paying me and there was pending 12$ payment that he had to give me from peerchecker. So in total, he should return 52$, not just 12$.

What was the use of his account, if I was unable to use it.. So he should return that money 40$ too, then only I will remove his negative trust....

kenzie95

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Quote from: HCP on October 17, 2017, 05:58:44 PM

Well, hopefully he makes contact with you then... he hasn't been active since August 30th, so I wouldn't hold your breath. Undecided

Perhaps a friendly PM to him might send him a notification and you can get it all sorted?

Alright, gonna drop PM to him then and see what happens.

HCP

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Well, hopefully he makes contact with you then... he hasn't been active since August 30th, so I wouldn't hold your breath. Undecided

Perhaps a friendly PM to him might send him a notification and you can get it all sorted?

kenzie95

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Quote from: HCP on October 16, 2017, 08:48:54 PM

It seems his "actual" beef is that you owe him $12 for work he completed on peerchecker, but because peerchecker did not allow BTC addresses associated with accounts to be changed, that payment was going to you... and you failed to forward that payment as promised:

Quote from: smartguy143 on July 03, 2016, 04:53:24 AM

What happened: This person kenzie95 sold me his peerchecker account for 40$(30$ payed before and 2$ in each payment received from op). Since, the payment was sent from op to his btc address, he told me he will forward me regular payments as soon as he received from op for the work i will be doing. He payed few times, and now he disappeared. He had to pay me 12$ btc from op, but a week passed and he is not replying on skype. He is active on bitcointalk forum, but when I messaged him, he is not replying. So clearly he scammed me, 40$ I payed him for the account and 12$ my payment from peerchecker that he didn't payed yet. Total 52$

Granted, the claim for the $40 for the account is probably a bit of a stretch... (ie. he got the account, not your fault the service changed the rates or eventually collapsed etc)... but it does appear that his claim for the $12 is legitimate...

Looking at the transaction history for your address, we can see that you received ~$12 worth of BTC in this transaction on 28/06/2017 that appears to have come from the Peerchecker service (based on the regular payments in and out over the weeks following your agreement).

Instead of forwarding the payment (as agreed by you) to his address (3M2XU5n2opXv33WqygdE9tFYyffdTuVgNt), it got sent elsewhere in this transaction on 04/07/2016... which occurred nearly 1 week after you received it... and only 1 day after he opened the scam accusation against you!!?!

Hm I really don't remember those 12$, now im talking seriously. U can see I was sending him the cash regulary and I know he opened scam acc. against me out of nowhere, thats why I was like oO. I swear I have no clue about those 12$, if thats the problem I'll send him 15 that's really not biggie as I would never scam some1, especially not for 12$ ...

HCP

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It seems his "actual" beef is that you owe him $12 for work he completed on peerchecker, but because peerchecker did not allow BTC addresses associated with accounts to be changed, that payment was going to you... and you failed to forward that payment as promised:

Quote from: smartguy143 on July 03, 2016, 04:53:24 AM

What happened: This person kenzie95 sold me his peerchecker account for 40$(30$ payed before and 2$ in each payment received from op). Since, the payment was sent from op to his btc address, he told me he will forward me regular payments as soon as he received from op for the work i will be doing. He payed few times, and now he disappeared. He had to pay me 12$ btc from op, but a week passed and he is not replying on skype. He is active on bitcointalk forum, but when I messaged him, he is not replying. So clearly he scammed me, 40$ I payed him for the account and 12$ my payment from peerchecker that he didn't payed yet. Total 52$

Granted, the claim for the $40 for the account is probably a bit of a stretch... (ie. he got the account, not your fault the service changed the rates or eventually collapsed etc)... but it does appear that his claim for the $12 is legitimate...

Looking at the transaction history for your address, we can see that you received ~$12 worth of BTC in this transaction on 28/06/2017 that appears to have come from the Peerchecker service (based on the regular payments in and out over the weeks following your agreement).

Instead of forwarding the payment (as agreed by you) to his address (3M2XU5n2opXv33WqygdE9tFYyffdTuVgNt), it got sent elsewhere in this transaction on 04/07/2016... which occurred nearly 1 week after you received it... and only 1 day after he opened the scam accusation against you!!?!

kenzie95

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I meant they dont proove anything, like the proof of me scamming him, but they do proove that I sold him the account. I'm not sure whats the problem exactly cause its clearly visible and stated that i SOLD him the account. I didn't borrow him account, gave him for use or smth like that, it was a product which was sold. Not sure why do I have to give back money and therefore be accused of scam. I didn't offer any refunds or something so I really see no point of this accusation.

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Quote from: kenzie95 on October 16, 2017, 09:32:16 AM

Quote from: lenoli on October 16, 2017, 09:29:27 AM

Quote from: kenzie95 on October 16, 2017, 07:57:38 AM

Hello everyone so I'm having this negative trust for somewhat long time, and after being ignored by Vod (who gave me negative trust) I'm seeking for help here.
Firstly I will post the reference , https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammed-by-forum-user-kenzie95-he-scammed-52-btc-from-me-1535732

Now I'm seeking for help or atleast ask Vod kindly to review this case again?
I'm really unhappy with the status I'm given and I think this scam accusation is false. I have not scammed anyone ever and especially not this guy.

So if there's anyone that can alert Vod to come and step by here, please do so. Thanks in advance

Also, if there are some questions I will happily answer them.

as i understand, that in that thread, smartguy143 are telling proving that you was scamming him, thats why you get red trust and Vod willnot delete it, util this problem willnot be solved and clear, so first you need to solve this problem and then you can ask Vod to remove your red trust

The thing is, he doesn't proove anything, screenshots do not proove anything, atleast not in his case. I'm not asking Vod to delete it but review the case again and then decide whether it should be removed or not. If u pay clear attention to the screenshots you will see that he states nothing in there but some random convo screens.

Quote from: kenzie95 on October 16, 2017, 11:29:46 AM

Quote from: lenoli on October 16, 2017, 10:03:28 AM

Quote from: kenzie95 on October 16, 2017, 09:52:50 AM

Np I can explain.

So there used to be a service called Peerchecker, where you would basically type captcha and get paid for it, it was legit.
There were limited accounts which means not every1 could do the work so people started selling their accounts (including me). So what happened is I sold him the account, and after few days paying rates dropped and he said that the job became too hard cause its paying low (u can see that in screenshots). So he literally asked me to give him back the money for which he bought the account (40$) cause he didn't want to work anymore, and when i refused he decided to open scam accusation vs me, which is ridic..

Hope this made it somewhat clear.

can you provide of any prove what are you telling? because i cannot find any screenshots you are talking about. with this story only, i think Vod willnot delete your red trust.

you must be more clear and have some prove of your story...

It's literally there in the screenshots. You can clearly see that he bought my account for 40$ and there's transaction of that (screenshot aswell). In the last screenshot u can see him saying its hard to work. That reference is almost 2 years old, I'm not sure if I can provide any more proof, except the inbox messages from here. Skype chat logs are on my old computer which is not owned by me anymore.

Not proof for vod but proof for you? Odd how that works.

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