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Topic: I have done nothing wrong but I am negative trusted now (Read 972 times)

legendary
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You should only care about it if you think Jolly is a good person and you like him. If you don't know or don't like him, exclude him, ignore him. As he did to you. Everybody is happy then.
I will have a 2nd thought in this. I think distrusting anyone because you do not like him or know him is wrong. We should be distrusting anyone if we see their judgments are fleeing. I have noticed harsh judgments from Jolly in the past too.

Why do you not like somebody though? I don't dislike somebody for having a different opinion than me unless the opinion is completely disgusting.

I can dislike somebody for having shitty judgement. So having my distrust is not because i don't like him in this case. It is because he has shitty judgement.

Should or shouldn't whatever, since it is not moderated, nothing can be done about it.

legendary
Activity: 2338
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I wouldn't care that much if i didn't see jolly as part of a organized group assaulting me for whatever reason, after defending a scammer (not jolly in this case), everyone ignoring this for threads and threads.
Don't take anything personally. You will feel better. Fact is, we do not know anyone in here in person. These are some characters including yours and mine too. So take everything easily and grow a thick skin. Believe me, it helps.

PS: I do not believe there are any group or organization in here. It's just at some point two or more users are on the same page and in other points they are not.

For example: I have Lauda in my distrust list. There are numerous occasions I disagree with Lauda, on the other hand there are also numerous occasions where we both agreed in some cases and stood strong together. The only reason for me Lauda to be in my distrust list is that she (or he whatever) is too harsh to send out negs and I have seen a lot of them were overlooked by her. But that does not discredit a lot of good works she is doing for the community. Sorry Lauda, to bring you as the example in here. I hope you are good enough to understand that it's not personal.

Being in the same page does not mean that it's a group or organization.
Lauda and group was a motivation and inspiration for me after 4 years mildly pursuing scammers, it proven it's just bullshit when could of used me(should be thankfull), I'm just happy things are as they are and trying to enjoy them here. I make too many damn connections, that isn't a good thing and makes me believe such things as that there are groups here, but the way things work let me very little to believe they aren't a group.
legendary
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I wouldn't care that much if i didn't see jolly as part of a organized group assaulting me for whatever reason, after defending a scammer (not jolly in this case), everyone ignoring this for threads and threads.
Don't take anything personally. You will feel better. Fact is, we do not know anyone in here in person. These are some characters including yours and mine too. So take everything easily and grow a thick skin. Believe me, it helps.

PS: I do not believe there are any group or organization in here. It's just at some point two or more users are on the same page and in other points they are not.

For example: I have Lauda in my distrust list. There are numerous occasions I disagree with Lauda, on the other hand there are also numerous occasions where we both agreed in some cases and stood strong together. The only reason for me Lauda to be in my distrust list is that she (or he whatever) is too harsh to send out negs and I have seen a lot of them were overlooked by her. But that does not discredit a lot of good works she is doing for the community. Sorry Lauda, to bring you as the example in here. I hope you are good enough to understand that it's not personal.

Being in the same page does not mean that it's a group or organization.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1047
You should only care about it if you think Jolly is a good person and you like him. If you don't know or don't like him, exclude him, ignore him. As he did to you. Everybody is happy then.
I will have a 2nd thought in this. I think distrusting anyone because you do not like him or know him is wrong. We should be distrusting anyone if we see their judgments are fleeing. I have noticed harsh judgments from Jolly in the past too.
I wouldn't care that much if i didn't see jolly as part of a organized group assaulting me for whatever reason, after defending a scammer (not jolly in this case), everyone ignoring this for threads and threads.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 3878
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You should only care about it if you think Jolly is a good person and you like him. If you don't know or don't like him, exclude him, ignore him. As he did to you. Everybody is happy then.
I will have a 2nd thought in this. I think distrusting anyone because you do not like him or know him is wrong. We should be distrusting anyone if we see their judgments are fleeing. I have noticed harsh judgments from Jolly in the past too.
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
Nobody gives a shit about trust ratings. Just accept it and move on.

As you see in the post above me, even the OP itself has several negs from DT.

Trust ratings are not being moderated (flags are, yes) There is no one universal right for everybody neither.

Unless you scammed somebody directly, which you didn't, a trust rating serves as a diary.

It is just an opinion. In your case Jolly thinks negatively about you. Why do you care? Nobody else does.

You should only care about it if you think Jolly is a good person and you like him. If you don't know or don't like him, exclude him, ignore him. As he did to you. Everybody is happy then.
legendary
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Sweet of you lauda to write things to me , actually, excluding the campaing which I did care about these ratings of yours haven't done shit and I don't really need a signature anymore so its all fun and games and beer even after anyone loses an eye, lets see how down and deep in this spiral we can get. As red as it is I has no problems doing biz and that's enough for me considering all these laughs.
Tell me, how butthurt you have to be to contact people to remove their positive ratings?

There's your pic, you can give it any look you wish by trusting and distrusting the right people.
Distrusting a few members of that group and the ratings change quite a bit so it becomes easy to see where the circle is, but I wouldn't bother too much this is just the front line of some of the nice groups that grew around bitcoin.

Edit: Mindrust, why'd you take the bit of fun I has on the forum, everyone making telenovelas out of stupid shit so I wanted too. I didn't see logic in his rating that's why i persisted.
member
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Oh okay sorry I am not used to of these features so I don't know who has me ignored or who has not.
legendary
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Speaking of red and green here is an image I posted in another thread where red tomatoes and green peppers were being discussed.

As mentioned in that thread, having added trolls and good-for-nothing-attention-seekers on my IGNORE list does help when scrolling the pages to read posts






Just make sure you go to trust rating and put jolly's name with a tilde before along with his whole group, i see myself as green and you as neutral Wink.
Do you need more kool-aid to disconnect yourself from reality? Almost all users of this forum see you in red. Smiley
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@JollyGood

The PM I sent I did not mention to remove the rating but isn't it pretty obvious if I am apologizing for something I would expect the feedback to be removed? If it is not like that then again I apology because I believed asking an apology meant that you forgive the little mistake and remove feedback.

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He actually created this thread first then sent a PM later all the while I had him on IGNORE and he gave 133 seconds in between creating this thread and then sending a PM to apologise - that behaviour is highly questionable to say the least.

I sent PM after the thread opening just to ensure I don't like a I was doing something wrong, got caught and begging to remove the feedback. I mean you are a DT member and if you are giving a feedback there is a solid reason and if I discussed in public why is it a problem at all? I just wanted to make sure that you see what point I am trying to make because DM easily means I am begging for negative to be removed which I did not wanted to look like, I had my own view and I just wanted to express it via this thread and hopefully convince you why I made that post.

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Where was the initiative on part of the OP to look through the history of the serial scammer Dean Nolan to know what was going on BEFORE he posted praises? If he was incompetent or lazy enough to avoid doing so and posting for the sake of posting what can I do about it when he was the one posting high praises for a serial scammer that stole around at least $4 million from the 2017 betking ICO all the way up to when the site shut down after he stolen the $400,000 bankroll in October 2019. Even now serial scammer Dean Nolan is probably lining up his pockets to receive most of the $200 per user Bitsler will be providing alleged betking customers but the OP in his wisdom claims he did not know the background story yet posted praises of a known scammer.

This is why I apologized? At the same time being a simple member status I do not think I am an influence at all and hence I unfortunately missed due diligence before posting my praise .. I already said sorry about that.

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Thirdly: this is absolutely worth a laugh at because he created this thread asking for the feedback to be removed but did not ask me when he sent me a PM 133 seconds later even though he knew he was on my IGNORE list?

I never knew what's your ignore list and you had me ignored, I am sorry but I am not that genius or intelligent to predict who has blocked/ignored me.


I have just one question from you, as your feedback said "BEWARE: JustinBounty knows there was no hack at betking.io" how can you claim I know there was no hack .. I don't know if there was a hack or not, I was told that they were hacked and that is what I assumed when making my comment.

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After the OP posting that various senior members of the forum who have posted in this thread are in a gang with me and accusing other members of other things, it is easy to understand why I had this user on IGNORE.

I never meant you are one who control these gangs but you cannot deny that there are a lot of signature gangs on forum and even the reputation thing has been quite a menace .. what I meant was there is one group with OG and another one with VOD .. I do not mean to criticize anyone but you can clearly see there are 2 separate gangs who is right, thats not I can comment on certainly.


Anyways remove the feedback or not, I am sorry for mistakenly supporting a scammer and hope I would be more conscious when making future comments.
legendary
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Just make sure you go to trust rating and put jolly's name with a tilde before along with his whole group, i see myself as green and you as neutral Wink.
Do you need more kool-aid to disconnect yourself from reality? Almost all users of this forum see you in red. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2338
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Just make sure you go to trust rating and put jolly's name with a tilde before along with his whole group, i see myself as green and you as neutral Wink.

Regarding betking I has no idea what happend there but I can say I got some funds on a few sites even if i haven't deposited on BK since site opened. I'm not saying anyone is guilty or innocent but of all the casinos that went down thru the shitter it's the first one I see attempting to repay something back, contact was made with biggest casinos and each gave something back, that is more than you can say of any other scam&run casino so there's that, I learned just at the beginning of this month why everyone has to have their money and their keys on cold storage and exchanges proven this pretty much.
legendary
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So after all the drama ensued in this thread I decided to unIGNORE the OP to see what was going on...

I am not very good at mathematics but from what I can deduce I am now openly replying/responding to the PM around 39 hours after receiving it.

What is somewhat surprising here is the urgency in which the OP (JustinBounty) has jumped on this situation to clear-his-name as it were by starting this thread on 23rd April 2020 at 7.56 (and 16 seconds) pm while apologising to me via PM at 7.58 (and 29 seconds) pm which is around 133 seconds later.



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Which sort of person with any rational thinking would behave in the manner in which the OP did?

In the PM he sent did he as me to reconsider my feedback? Quite clearly he did not. Did he even give me a hint in the slightest that he wanted me to reconsider removing or modifying it? Again, quite clearly he did not.

He actually created this thread first then sent a PM later all the while I had him on IGNORE and he gave 133 seconds in between creating this thread and then sending a PM to apologise - that behaviour is highly questionable to say the least.

Here is the actual comment in the OP that should be noted:

Now I have been given negative trust for that, I am sorry to anyone who offended by me appreciating a good deed (from what I understood) and please can I request the negative trust to be removed?

Firstly: yes indeed he was given negative feedback

Secondly:



If there was no malice involved and he misunderstood the situation I will revise my feedback but will keep it negative for multiple reasons including when someone who is a relative newcomer is posting praises for a serial scammer on the basis of a misunderstanding or anything else means they cannot be trusted.

Where was the initiative on part of the OP to look through the history of the serial scammer Dean Nolan to know what was going on BEFORE he posted praises? If he was incompetent or lazy enough to avoid doing so and posting for the sake of posting what can I do about it when he was the one posting high praises for a serial scammer that stole around at least $4 million from the 2017 betking ICO all the way up to when the site shut down after he stolen the $400,000 bankroll in October 2019. Even now serial scammer Dean Nolan is probably lining up his pockets to receive most of the $200 per user Bitsler will be providing alleged betking customers but the OP in his wisdom claims he did not know the background story yet posted praises of a known scammer.

Thirdly: this is absolutely worth a laugh at because he created this thread asking for the feedback to be removed but did not ask me when he sent me a PM 133 seconds later even though he knew he was on my IGNORE list?

After the OP posting that various senior members of the forum who have posted in this thread are in a gang with me and accusing other members of other things, it is easy to understand why I had this user on IGNORE.

As always I appreciate all the comments, views, tip and advice from users I have immense respect for who took the time to post here with their neutral views without taking any sides.
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@LoyceV

Thank you, I might have said some wrong statements out of frustration maybe and I apology again if anything hurt you.

I hate betking now and I wish I never replied there, edited my comment already now. here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betkingio-refunds-partnership-with-bitsler-promo-ended-5241045

Than you everyone hope it helps clear the situation.
legendary
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anyways I do understand you have to take his side because he is more powerful than me
First, I don't think I took JollyGood's side here, I literally said I wouldn't leave negative feedback for this. And second, I couldn't care less about how "powerful" he is. What do you think would happen? He'll tag and Flag me over a disagreement?

Retract the statement
That would be a good start indeed. Just edit your post, and update it with your current view on the situation. It's archived anyway.

I wanted to delete my comment but I felt it might seem like I was supporting a scam intentionally and deleted it when caught, shall I delete it? Please suggest Smiley
You can use strikethrough on the original content and add new content instead of deleting your post.

I also want to know how I am supposed to know that some website has scammed
This is a pretty obvious hint:
BetKing.io
Trust score loading...
And on top of the scammer's thread is an even bigger red warning!

Corona covid-19 is nothing compared to what sort of virus is developing at this forum and Theymos being Trump.
Please open a topic on this, for when I'm bored in lockdown!
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Florida, Alabama, rednecks. Pick your source of online fun. Cheesy Tongue Locals probably know more.

I am actually worried for the guys in US because they have the worst guy probably to handle the pandemic situation and very arrogant.
legendary
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maybe I should just let jolly reply once because he might have a different perception of deleting a comment
I think he will agree, but yes you can wait.

, but thanks a lot for the replies and fun discussion that went in middle of it lol
Florida, Alabama, rednecks. Pick your source of online fun. Cheesy Tongue Locals probably know more.
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I have apologized and even regret my comment what else I need to do now? Death penalty for my comment?
It is called: patience. The guy does not exist to serve and handle your requests when you ask for it. If the comment is retracted and so such further comments are going to be made, then your case is will be handled sooner rather than later.
I wanted to delete my comment but I felt it might seem like I was supporting a scam intentionally and deleted it when caught, shall I delete it? Please suggest Smiley
Good question, and good thinking. I can see how some people might attack you for that but I would not be worried about this. Such actions are mostly done by vicious trolls. I think you should delete it.

maybe I should just let jolly reply once because he might have a different perception of deleting a comment, but thanks a lot for the replies and fun discussion that went in middle of it lol
legendary
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I have apologized and even regret my comment what else I need to do now? Death penalty for my comment?
It is called: patience. The guy does not exist to serve and handle your requests when you ask for it. If the comment is retracted and so such further comments are going to be made, then your case is will be handled sooner rather than later.
I wanted to delete my comment but I felt it might seem like I was supporting a scam intentionally and deleted it when caught, shall I delete it? Please suggest Smiley
Good question, and good thinking. I can see how some people might attack you for that but I would not be worried about this. Such actions are mostly done by vicious trolls. I think you should delete it.
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I have apologized and even regret my comment what else I need to do now? Death penalty for my comment?
It is called: patience. The guy does not exist to serve and handle your requests when you ask for it. If the comment is retracted and so such further comments are going to be made, then your case is will be handled sooner rather than later.

I wanted to delete my comment but I felt it might seem like I was supporting a scam intentionally and deleted it when caught, shall I delete it? Please suggest Smiley
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