Pages:
Author

Topic: I have failed too severely, time to give up? - page 2. (Read 505 times)

member
Activity: 560
Merit: 17
Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
   I think op should only have a proper approach. You're only sharing with the local community, so you don't lose them if they reject what you offer them.

   Then in the end they will also realize that when they hear bitcoin again. As long as you're the important thing, don't change or lose your positive view of bitcoin. Because not everyone is called to believe in bitcoin like you.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
You should continue promoting Bitcoin like always but your target population needs to change. Daily wage workers don't like complicated payment systems or something that needs them to do something extra which in case is installing a wallet software, setting it up with a seed, keeping the seed secure and converting to fiat needed, instead they would just accept fiat.

Just ask yourself, why would these simple people go through so much trouble when th end result is right in front of them?

That is where you come in. Your job is to make them take th difficult route because of some discount or something extra. This is how you should plan and not just talk but also show how easy it can be, how Bitcoin can be a good investment for future.

Just don't forget that when bitcoin drops, you will have a mob of uneducated sharp axe weilding people at you.
copper member
Activity: 2268
Merit: 539
DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook
I completely read your story. According to me, many people in the rural area aren’t aware of cryptocurrencies yet. This might be the main reason they don’t know how to use it, and hence they don’t show any interest in buying it, holding it, and at last paying you with it. Moreover, I have also come across many people who treat Bitcoins as an asset and not as a mode of payment, so yes, definitely for this as well, with many people not paying you with Bitcoins. The solution to this is nothing; you cannot do anything or force people. Just wait for someday, and some people will come who will definitely pay with bitcoins.
sr. member
Activity: 896
Merit: 303
It will be a waste of time if you force someone to use bitcoin. Truthfully, if I am your customer, exchanging my business funds for bitcoin in real-world business will be a hassle unless you have a good offer for them to gain. And the price of bitcoin fluctuates. How can you deal with it if you're the customer? If the value of bitcoin dumps, you can only buy a smaller portion of cocoa. A smaller amount of cocoa makes less profit than usual. As a business man would you take that risk for the sake of using cryptocurrency in your business?
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005
crunck
If accepting bitcoins doesn't benefit your business but, on the contrary, it frustrates you, then you should stop accepting bitcoin and wait until bitcoin is more popular. Accepting bitcoins into your business doesn't matter, what matters is your revenue. It's not worth your confusion or sadness because, as we all know, bitcoin is not very popular, nor is it an official currency.
full member
Activity: 448
Merit: 225
I come from a hard-core farming family, and we are all involved in agriculture. I was able to get ( inherit) an acre of land from my parents, and I started my cocoa farming business in 2010. Since then, it has improved greatly, and I have been able to purchase a sizable amount of Bitcoin with the business, even though it is seasonal and can produce both good and bad results.

Although I did everything in my power to increase business adoption of cryptocurrencies, I gave away some Bitcoin and some other coins too, and Bitcoin was my primary goal to use as means of exchange , yet, I have failed badly.

Those who buy bags of cocoa from my farm are older illiterate people, I wasted my energy,  trying to even tell them the benefits that comes with paying with Bitcoin, they are not even ready to take advantage of my discount, then I stopped.

In 2020, two special buyers are now handled by younger guys, the sons, I thought I will be able to handle them and make Bitcoin payment a possibility,  it still doesn't work, these young lads are just like their old men.

So I give up, I decided to talk about this because I still find it hard to believe that no where in this world of agriculture is accepting Bitcoin as means of payment.  

Is there anyone into agriculture and farming that are accepting Bitcoin?

What advice do you have for me at this point?

Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?
Quote
Why are you forcing the older generation to be able to accept and make payments with crypto? that's so ridiculous. You also have to be able to see the situation and conditions in your environment, you can't force someone to make payments with crypto where just being able to use a smartphone is good enough for them, let alone making payments with crypto, it's definitely quite complicated for them. To be honest, even in urban areas nowadays it's quite difficult to be able to implement crypto payments, especially in rural areas like where you are. And for payments, I don't really agree with using Bitcoin, because the value of BTC tends to be unstable and it's much easier to use fiat for offline payments nowadays.

you can sell your cocoa bags to whole sale buyer or like shop owner, there are many shop owner and whole sale businesses to find a educated one, who may listen and find interesting and beneficial to buy from you and make payment in bitcoin,
you already said you have only one acre of land so obviously you does not cultivate in large quantity so your can try my idea, to sell all your cocoa to a whole sale bussinesman ,
but if your customer are regular and you love them(you are running this business for 13 years so you may have a good bonding between customers) than you can try this: after selling to your customer, other left cocoa you can sell in whole sale market, by finding educated one who know about bitcoin.
full member
Activity: 868
Merit: 202
Why are you forcing the older generation to be able to accept and make payments with crypto? that's so ridiculous. You also have to be able to see the situation and conditions in your environment, you can't force someone to make payments with crypto where just being able to use a smartphone is good enough for them, let alone making payments with crypto, it's definitely quite complicated for them. To be honest, even in urban areas nowadays it's quite difficult to be able to implement crypto payments, especially in rural areas like where you are. And for payments, I don't really agree with using Bitcoin, because the value of BTC tends to be unstable and it's much easier to use fiat for offline payments nowadays.
hero member
Activity: 1974
Merit: 534
What advice do you have for me at this point?

Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?

Sorry to hear that you have such troubles to promote bitcoins in your sector. I have no background in agriculture at all, I only know a few farmers from my home town. All of them are now 50+ years old and none of their children are interested in farming. I also wouldn't expected them to move to crypto currencies in their lifetime. From friends family that rents them a lot of farming land I know that most transactions are still being done in cash. It would make sense to switch to a crypto framework, the problem is to establish trust and get the whole industry to switch to bitcoins. But as long as there is a lot of volality in the market its difficult. In case bitcoins would be stable around the 20k USD for a few years it would be easier. I would recommend to you to stay at least partially in the crypto community and not  go fully back to fiat money.
full member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 116
Enterapp Pre-Sale Live - bit.ly/3UrMCWI
in doing business, of course we have to follow what is in the field in real terms, considering that cryptocurrency has just existed and not many people know about it, and there is no support from the government, then its development will be more hampered, that's what makes us feel understandable, and of course if there isn't who are competent to use crypto payments, we can only provide it as an alternative, and basically still deal with fiat primarily, who knows there are transaction partners who are already using crypto as well
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1965
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I think it has a lot to do with the kind of produce that are being sold. We have young farmers in our area that are selling flowers and they accept Bitcoin, but it has been over a year since I have seen them, so I do not know if they still do.

I would do some research to find out what kind of agricultural products are being imported the most and then focus on the first world countries, where Bitcoin are more popular. (You might find something where people will import directly from you..and where you can offer them Bitcoin payments)  Cool
hero member
Activity: 1778
Merit: 746
Those who buy bags of cocoa from my farm are older illiterate people, I wasted my energy,  trying to even tell them the benefits that comes with paying with Bitcoin, they are not even ready to take advantage of my discount, then I stopped.
Your biggest mistake is trying to use a payment pattern using bitcoin to illiterate people, how is it possible that they will be interested in the concept you are developing, on the other hand they don't know bitcoin. One stupid mistake you make that causes your time to be wasted and you need to think of other ways to generate income from the bitcoins you have.

In 2020, two special buyers are now handled by younger guys, the sons, I thought I will be able to handle them and make Bitcoin payment a possibility,  it still doesn't work, these young lads are just like their old men.
If people are not tech savvy, never offer them bitcoins, because for them using fiat as a transaction is the most appropriate move. Therefore you must do a study before imposing your desire for bitcoin on other people, not everyone thinks the same about using bitcoin in their life.

So I give up, I decided to talk about this because I still find it hard to believe that no where in this world of agriculture is accepting Bitcoin as means of payment. 
We also need to know which country you live in, so there will be a big review of why the bitcoin payment option isn't working for your farming business.

Many countries have not been able to accept bitcoin as a means of payment, because many things have caused it to not work properly, while your desire to accept bitcoin as a means of transaction will face big challenges. The most appropriate step to stop this mess, the concept of using payment using bitcoin will never work in your place, it takes time for them to accept all of that and you can't force it to run fast.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1001
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
actually, there's nothing wrong with your way. you don't need to force buyers to pay using bitcoin even though there is a discount if using payment using bitcoin. let your buyers buy with cash, or with fiat. providing a payment alternative should not force them to use it. let your business continue to accept bitcoins. if the person understands and uses bitcoins I'm pretty sure they will buy using bitcoins. however, if not, then they will use cash. well, no harm to that. we don't know when our buyers bring us bitcoins. besides, not everyone understands the use of bitcoins. so, continue your business as usual, and you can also introduce bitcoin to your prospective buyers if they still don't know about it.
member
Activity: 546
Merit: 10
A payment can be made using bitcoin. However in your situation, where not many people are familiar with bitcoin, I advise you to continue sending payments as usual without first introducing bitcoin to anyone. Maybe individuals who are used to using traditional payment methods still find bitcoin challenging. Hence, it appears that they will not be interested at all even if you go into greater depth regarding bitcoin. Although it is a challenge for you, this is not the time or place to explain bitcoin.
hero member
Activity: 2618
Merit: 548
DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook
Leave it for the buyers convenience. On the bill provided or through some source publish about your business accepting bitcoin. That is true, even the young generation aren't ready to do business with bitcoin for different reasons. Main thing is the lack of knowledge and not understanding cryptocurrency in the right way.

When you have bitcoin accepted signage, someone will prefer to do business with you. Maybe this doesn't happen in the short term. On the long run new buyers preferring bitcoin payments could contact you. Just think of the buyers, at the beginning they might've preferred only cash for business, slowly they might've moved to card and wallet based transactions. Every form of transition requires time. So, wait for the right moment than giving up with the bitcoin acceptance into business.
full member
Activity: 2184
Merit: 184
Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com
I know how you feel OP, but don't give up because a time will come all your customers will change their minds to purchase goods from you and pay with Bitcoin which is your heart desire in your business. You have not fail yet than to continuing spreading the information across to your customers in the environment that you accept Bitcoin as a payment in your farm crops. I think, you need to explain to the old men and women very well, how important Bitcoin transaction is to humanity and how safe and secure Bitcoin is in the process of translation.
sr. member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 342
Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com
I come from a hard-core farming family, and we are all involved in agriculture. I was able to get ( inherit) an acre of land from my parents, and I started my cocoa farming business in 2010. Since then, it has improved greatly, and I have been able to purchase a sizable amount of Bitcoin with the business, even though it is seasonal and can produce both good and bad results.

Although I did everything in my power to increase business adoption of cryptocurrencies, I gave away some Bitcoin and some other coins too, and Bitcoin was my primary goal to use as means of exchange , yet, I have failed badly.

Those who buy bags of cocoa from my farm are older illiterate people, I wasted my energy,  trying to even tell them the benefits that comes with paying with Bitcoin, they are not even ready to take advantage of my discount, then I stopped.

In 2020, two special buyers are now handled by younger guys, the sons, I thought I will be able to handle them and make Bitcoin payment a possibility,  it still doesn't work, these young lads are just like their old men.

So I give up, I decided to talk about this because I still find it hard to believe that no where in this world of agriculture is accepting Bitcoin as means of payment. 

Is there anyone into agriculture and farming that are accepting Bitcoin?

What advice do you have for me at this point?

Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?
In South America it is very likely that you will find what you are saying, there are many with money who do not mind selling, buying something called money AND BTC, but coming to South America like Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela,Brazil is something that people in Europe do not know if They can with that change, it is difficult, it is another lifestyle.

Some get sick because they face many things, climate change,the Tropical makes them like it, the water has more minerals,the food is more natural,there are almost no synthetic foods, the lifestyle you lead changes but agriculture would go no problem, accepting btc.
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1043
Need A Campaign Manager? | Contact Little_Mouse
~
Is there anyone into agriculture and farming that are accepting Bitcoin?

What advice do you have for me at this point?

Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?
You forgot to make a research regarding these old people that you are saying.

You said already that they're old therefore, they didn't encounter things like Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies in general, and will never try to learn it anymore because they're old already. At least you consider that factor as well, but you didn't, and even though you encouraged them to use it, they didn't even care at all because they don't want to learn it or use it.

Just give up accepting Bitcoin in your current business especially if you knew already that it will not work. As per my observation, those establishments who are accepting Bitcoin are establishments that have been built in an area where there's many people like in malls. I didn't even see anything that's related to agriculture that accepted Bitcoin as a payment. Saying that it makes no sense isn't the word, but maybe it's better to say that we aren't ready for that thing.
hero member
Activity: 3052
Merit: 685
The OP just happened to be in a good time but wrong place.

I mean that is already expected that nobody would know about the existence of what you're saying or get interested about it especially if you're doing that in a rural place. OP has also said it to himself and already knew that most of his customers are illiterate and old, so that's totally understandable that no one would by the OP's bags of cocoa in the form of cryptocurrency even if it is on a discounted price, surely that discount is not as big as 40 to 50 percent because you can tell why they are not interested at it.

I know your motive OP and I totally understand it, you just want to tell them that there is bitcoin and it's a gift given to us by Satoshi Nakamoto but you should also understand why they wouldn't want to convert their fiats into crypto just to buy your bags of cocoa. First it is a hassle to them because they are illiterate, 2nd is they have no reasons at all to have their funds converted in a form of crypto because their funds is just enough for them to survive on a daily basis.

That is why I said that you are in a wrong place, try to sell your bags of cocoa in an urban area with that same discount, I bet you will have such customers who are willing to buy it in a form of crypto.
hero member
Activity: 3010
Merit: 629
Should I just give up for now and wait for the future maybe when Bitcoin gets more popular? Or Bitcoin and farming makes no sense together?
Let's accept that not everyone are aware of Bitcoin existence even in urban areas where people are expose to new development. So what's more to those who are in agriculture sector? Hence it is understandable if they seem not updated to the current technology, not only because of their background but also because of their interest.

We can't expect everyone to know and think the same way like us, what matter is you tried. You didn't fail, it's just that, the people surrounding you are probably not techy or never heard yet about this digital currency.
jr. member
Activity: 103
Merit: 6
Indeed, in this case, there are still many people who are not know with bitcoin, especially for making payments, so you have to be patient, friends, about this.
and in my opinion do not take this too seriously.
and it must be remembered that people's thinking is different, as well as the payment system, of course different wishes.
Pages:
Jump to: