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Op is one hilarious dude. Still find it difficult to understand how this guy accuses bitcoin in such a malicious way even after earning big profits through bitcoin(Said he was a 6 year bitcoiner). This guy is clearly one of the minority who accuses bitcoin for every small thing even after knowing that NOTHING is perfect in this world. Even the king of the crypto world has its own share of cons, but this does not discredit the fact that bitcoin has carried the entire crypto world into a new age of popularity. Think before making big statements people.
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Several transactions of mine have gone with 0 confirmations in the past several days.  And some of those I was paying 1.5X or 2X the recommended fees.  Nothing.  Nada.  Zilch.

Bitcoin has gone from being an expensive network to use to a practically unusable network.  I was defending Bitcoin against millions of tards back in 2011 and 2012.  Are they going to have the last laugh on me now?  It pisses me off to actually see some of you defending this too and saying "this is the way Bitcoin is supposed to work".  Umm...
What issue are you talking about during 2012,there was no major issue during those phase in my memory,the network sucks because a couple of days back i tried with a $50 transaction fees and it took over ten hours to get one confirmation and it really sucks to make frequent transactions now,the only solution is lightening network and i am not sure when that is possible.
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you want to earn without pay. bitcoin jump from 10k to 20k you must have good income and can pay 60$ for fee.

bitcoin is good and fee is acceptable.




Hope the price would be stable for the moment to be the fees be lower also. Bitcoin has the big potential to earned anyone big in this cryptocurrency. Just hold into have bitcoin price will recover hopefully.

I think the fee getting reduced slowly today.So the condition will back to normal soon.But this is most tough days for bitcoin because who bitcoin investors are chocked due to high fee and waiting time for confirmation.
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Several transactions of mine have gone with 0 confirmations in the past several days.  And some of those I was paying 1.5X or 2X the recommended fees.  Nothing.  Nada.  Zilch.

Bitcoin has gone from being an expensive network to use to a practically unusable network.  I was defending Bitcoin against millions of tards back in 2011 and 2012.  Are they going to have the last laugh on me now?  It pisses me off to actually see some of you defending this too and saying "this is the way Bitcoin is supposed to work".  Umm... NO IT IS NOT .

I have ZERO confidence left in Core and their "developers".  Their network can't handle the slightest bit of volume without totally seizing up.  And then Adam Back is out there with the press talking about Bitcoin vendors and merchants running a tab system??  Really??  You can't do your job properly so you want people to run a tab in BTC??  You saw this coming from 10 miles away and did nothing about it.  Stupid or malicious?... you decide.

I will be converting my remaining BTC to BCH, Dash, XMR and coins that actually work! And coins that have teams that have at least a Grade 7 level understanding of economics, ie.. "when you are at capacity, you open more locations".  And not throw out "but but centralization!!" juvenile red herrings!

Long time Bitcoiner of 6 years here saying, "SEE YA LATER! CASHING OUT NOW!"


I think the developers wanted to happen is to make the holders hold their bitcoins so that the growth of the rate of Bitcoin wont drop deep. For me the reason why Bitcoin has a very high fees is to keep the growth of the bitcoin. They also need inputs i dare say.

Another factor that contributed to the high transaction fees would be the massive adoption of bitcoin. The greediness of miners played a part on this. The forks should be there to help and improve bitcoin however it poses more problems than it actually helps. The high transaction fees are really a problem for the users and unless something is done to resolve them, then the crypto users may resolve to invest on other altcoins which offer better features.
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you want to earn without pay. bitcoin jump from 10k to 20k you must have good income and can pay 60$ for fee.

bitcoin is good and fee is acceptable.




Hope the price would be stable for the moment to be the fees be lower also. Bitcoin has the big potential to earned anyone big in this cryptocurrency. Just hold into have bitcoin price will recover hopefully.
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Several transactions of mine have gone with 0 confirmations in the past several days.  And some of those I was paying 1.5X or 2X the recommended fees.  Nothing.  Nada.  Zilch.

Bitcoin has gone from being an expensive network to use to a practically unusable network.  I was defending Bitcoin against millions of tards back in 2011 and 2012.  Are they going to have the last laugh on me now?  It pisses me off to actually see some of you defending this too and saying "this is the way Bitcoin is supposed to work".  Umm... NO IT IS NOT .

I have ZERO confidence left in Core and their "developers".  Their network can't handle the slightest bit of volume without totally seizing up.  And then Adam Back is out there with the press talking about Bitcoin vendors and merchants running a tab system??  Really??  You can't do your job properly so you want people to run a tab in BTC??  You saw this coming from 10 miles away and did nothing about it.  Stupid or malicious?... you decide.

I will be converting my remaining BTC to BCH, Dash, XMR and coins that actually work! And coins that have teams that have at least a Grade 7 level understanding of economics, ie.. "when you are at capacity, you open more locations".  And not throw out "but but centralization!!" juvenile red herrings!

Long time Bitcoiner of 6 years here saying, "SEE YA LATER! CASHING OUT NOW!"


I think the developers wanted to happen is to make the holders hold their bitcoins so that the growth of the rate of Bitcoin wont drop deep. For me the reason why Bitcoin has a very high fees is to keep the growth of the bitcoin. They also need inputs i dare say.
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Several transactions of mine have gone with 0 confirmations in the past several days.  And some of those I was paying 1.5X or 2X the recommended fees.  Nothing.  Nada.  Zilch.

Bitcoin has gone from being an expensive network to use to a practically unusable network.  I was defending Bitcoin against millions of tards back in 2011 and 2012.  Are they going to have the last laugh on me now?  It pisses me off to actually see some of you defending this too and saying "this is the way Bitcoin is supposed to work".  Umm... NO IT IS NOT .

I have ZERO confidence left in Core and their "developers".  Their network can't handle the slightest bit of volume without totally seizing up.  And then Adam Back is out there with the press talking about Bitcoin vendors and merchants running a tab system??  Really??  You can't do your job properly so you want people to run a tab in BTC??  You saw this coming from 10 miles away and did nothing about it.  Stupid or malicious?... you decide.

I will be converting my remaining BTC to BCH, Dash, XMR and coins that actually work! And coins that have teams that have at least a Grade 7 level understanding of economics, ie.. "when you are at capacity, you open more locations".  And not throw out "but but centralization!!" juvenile red herrings!

Long time Bitcoiner of 6 years here saying, "SEE YA LATER! CASHING OUT NOW!"


No. This is not even the worse since there are possible reasons ro this such as the season unlike on the backdrops before which made the value of Bitcoin low. And also, the market price of Bitcoin is still expensive. So there's a huge possibility that its market value will again increase. We only need to be patient to how things are going for Bitcoin now. It is more advisable to invest now since the price is low and hold until its value again, increase.
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Whatever you say Mr. Ver.

See ya.


I am not Roger but I will tell him that you say hi.  I will be taking the coins and hash power with me too...  

Enjoy your useless Blockstream/Mellon Coins while you still can.   Grin


Don't you have a fake Satoshi and CIA Gavin to check in with? Enjoy your Paypal 2.0
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you want to earn without pay. bitcoin jump from 10k to 20k you must have good income and can pay 60$ for fee.

bitcoin is good and fee is acceptable.



legendary
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I will be heading partially to BCash... which is the original Bitcoin that Satoshi described in his white paper.  That is also the Bitcoin that Core supported before they sold their souls to Bankers & Blockstream.

I urge you to look into Core's constant claims of "BCH is centralized!!" because these are empty, baseless claims.  Core is centralized and is trying to protect their vaunted space in the cryptosphere and censor, ban, intimidate anyone who challenges them.

I will not be going to Litecoin or any other coin that entertains the notion of off-chain gimmickry.  There is a reason Charlie sold when he did, he understands that Segwit/Lightning is a dud.

Merry Christmas!




this is a total insult to anyone with nominal levels of intelligence. i don't even need to write anything. this is all anyone needs to look at to know what centralisation is.

https://cash.coin.dance/blocks/thisweek

antpool, other pools that are pubicly known to be in their pocket, and the majority by an undeclared miner.

kinda hard to guess who that might be. but we can try.
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simple. bitcoin is being attacked by the people behind bcash. the attackers are the same people who are mining bitcoin. if core had taken charge of block size increase they might have eased off or because core were still in charge they'd continue attacking. as it's miners doing this then they collect their own fees. if someone else gets their own fees then they still collect the super high ones from hapless users. this means they can continue indefinitely until their stranglehold is broken.

this is all because of the centralisation of mining. if that's broken then maybe we'll be ok. if it isn't then bitcoin will fail and deserve to as well. we're seeing the effects of centralisation and too much power in a small number of hands right now.

anyone moving to bcash is being herded there by the people who are screwing you over right now. they mine all of it. they control development too. i am not giving them control of my money.

you will be doing exactly what they want you to do. the best thing you can do if you want to keep a hand in crypto is head for litecoin or anything else that isn't so politicised and nefarious.


I will be heading partially to BCash... which is the original Bitcoin that Satoshi described in his white paper.  That is also the Bitcoin that Core supported before they sold their souls to Bankers & Blockstream.

I urge you to look into Core's constant claims of "BCH is centralized!!" because these are empty, baseless claims.  Core is centralized and is trying to protect their vaunted space in the cryptosphere and censor, ban, intimidate anyone who challenges them.

I will not be going to Litecoin or any other coin that entertains the notion of off-chain gimmickry.  There is a reason Charlie sold when he did, he understands that Segwit/Lightning is a dud.

Merry Christmas!


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Roger you are very often here. I thought bcshit has its own forum  Grin
legendary
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simple. bitcoin is being attacked by the people behind bcash. the attackers are the same people who are mining bitcoin. if core had taken charge of block size increase they might have eased off or because core were still in charge they'd continue attacking. as it's miners doing this then they collect their own fees. if someone else gets their own fees then they still collect the super high ones from hapless users. this means they can continue indefinitely until their stranglehold is broken.

this is all because of the centralisation of mining. if that's broken then maybe we'll be ok. if it isn't then bitcoin will fail and deserve to as well. we're seeing the effects of centralisation and too much power in a small number of hands right now.

anyone moving to bcash is being herded there by the people who are screwing you over right now. they mine all of it. they control development too. i am not giving them control of my money.

you will be doing exactly what they want you to do. the best thing you can do if you want to keep a hand in crypto is head for litecoin or anything else that isn't so politicised and nefarious.
newbie
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only a question of time before bitcash is worth more than bitcoin, completely useless and unusable at the moment.
Very soon in the new year bitcoin will no longer be king coin

You are correct sir!

I suspect many of the late-comers in BTC haven't even tried to use BTC and know little about BTC, technology or economics.  They bought some BTC, left it on Coinbase (or some other exchange) and they are cheering on a pixel on their screen watching the fiat value increase.
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it has actually become somethings else this days ,transactions are been hailed for hours some times not confirmed i pray all should be well because investors are going to clean up there tears with handkerchief  of tears of loss.


There is a fundamental economic misunderstanding here...   Many believe that Bitcoin can maintain its macro-value without remaining a usable means of micro-payments.

Sorry, it can not.
that may be true but what about the other 2,000 crypto
newbie
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People burying BTC only because it did a 25% correction?? Don't know, if i see current BTC price, it's up 50% in less than a month, plus the dip correction momentum is almost all gone. There is a good chance that the up trend will restart powering up...


People are not burying BTC because of a 25% correction in fiat value.  People are burying it because it is because becoming unusable,  And because the people who are now filling up the BTC rank-and-file are very much like the people we sought to get rid of originally by using Bitcoin.
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We are all going to die (in my screamy voice)
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People burying BTC only because it did a 25% correction?? Don't know, if i see current BTC price, it's up 50% in less than a month, plus the dip correction momentum is almost all gone. There is a good chance that the up trend will restart powering up...
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only a question of time before bitcash is worth more than bitcoin, completely useless and unusable at the moment.
Very soon in the new year bitcoin will no longer be king coin
newbie
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it has actually become somethings else this days ,transactions are been hailed for hours some times not confirmed i pray all should be well because investors are going to clean up there tears with handkerchief  of tears of loss.


There is a fundamental economic misunderstanding here...   Many believe that Bitcoin can maintain its macro-value without remaining a usable means of micro-payments.

Sorry, it can not.
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