Topic: I have some old BTC wallet from 2013 (Read 278 times)

If he didn't tell his siblings or parents or any members of his family maybe he never though he would die so soon. Maybe he kept things to himself for privacy purpose which nobody gets to know anything about it. If the parents can get access to the coin I think it will be better than for the coin to be there without any members of the family to have access to it. His family deserves to get this coin if their is way for them to get it. Some people keeps detail of their assets to their self without allowing anyone related to them to know about it but things happens which can lead to death thst no expects.

If the ops have any guess that his friend have some Bitcoin in the said wallet he can check what transactions have been done on that wallet and how much balance is left in the said wallet, this then will lead him to the dead end of he doesn't have access to that wallet key's, this is very important to take note of before he may seek to fine any other further guide.

Also I wonder why the parents are so concerned that the dead guy have some investment on his laptop because most parents who does not have the computer knowledge won't point to his system as such of where to find they dead son hidden treasures.

Sorry for not responding sooner. I had some personal problems.

We managed to find the wallet password, we found one flash drive hidden in his apartment taped under the bathtub ( that part used to clean under the sink ).

It indeed had some BTC, close to 2BTC that the parents decided to cash in, they donated some money ( didn't asked how much ) and some went to family. They also wanted to give me few thousand but I declined.

On that drive however was one more wallet but this one is from late 2015. I tried same password, keys and everything but they don't work. This one is also bigger, 150kb so it could be that that one also has something inside.

So unless we find a new flash drive, HDD, SSD or some unknown email that has password and key i doubt we will open that one.

Anyway thanks for all the help and suggestions

Well, you can never really know the content of the wallet if it has anything in it at all without looking right? So you’ve just got to look to see what you could find. Mind you, don’t forget it’s not your wallet and so, be sure to seek the parent’s consent in what ever dealings you’re doing.

It must be sad for the parents, having to go through this and you must be really close to the family and most of all, your friend to be given that task.
It’s better you be the one to go through his things and be proper about it than for the parents to look out for someone else who is most likely not going to be trust worthy.

Perhaps, you still have to go through his things, passwords and seed phrase don’t come by guessing with specifics to public addresses.

Perhaps I missed it, but what is the name of the wallet file that you found?  That might help determine what software it worked with and then you can see what it had in it.

As people said above, make copies of the file(s) before doing anything, just in case.  Likewise, before sending them to anyone make sure they are legit and not scammers.

First of all, I'm sorry for loss of your friend. It's really hard to forget the ones whom we lost in that Covid 19 times but at least we could wish best for their next life. The wallet file from 2013 could contain some Bitcoin in it and who knows your friend might be someone who believed in the concept of HODL.

I suggest you to look for all folders of his hard drives, SSD's, and also look for all hidden folders. Then you may manually check each text file, image file, video file, and audio file to see if you can find any clue about the seed phrase or private keys. I know it can be a time consuming task but if you do it with pure heart then you may get success.

If you don't find anything in those folders and files then you may try to use some recovery software and a safe external hard drive or SSD to recover all lost files that were deleted. There's chance that you may find some clue in those recovered files.

You may also try to check his browser history, saved passwords, and each possible crypto exchange which he might have visited when he was alive. Some people prefer to keep their Bitcoin at exchanges, I personally don't recommend that approach but still there are some people who do that.

After going through all of those procedures you might get some clue about the wallet but there's possibility that you may not find any clue. You may try your best and then post in this thread to let us know the results.

I am thinking if this might be one of the consequences of decentralization. Not that I think decentralization is a bad thing but in times like this, it makes me think how could one hand over his or her coins to someone without giving them explicitly the wallet before death.

At least with banks it’s all automatic. You tell them the account should be accessed by this and that but with crypto, it gets a little more complicated than that.

With all the stress you've explained which you passed through just to get access to the wallet is believed to be that you needed to help the parents get reached to their sons assets which is stored in the wallet before his demise.
So why don't you do what you can to get access to the wallet as to know if there was coin inside Instead of coming to ask the public here.
I don't also know the kind of suggestion you needed again when your late friends parent has called on you to asiste them recover their sons funds. Or do you mean technically guidelines on how you can maneuver to get access to the wallet so that you can transact with the assets?
Honestly, I worry why the parents would call on you on such case because this is a sensitive view thing if I may say. Does the parent knew your friend was a bitcoin investor? And how do they think you're best convenience to do that task knowing that bitcoin has wallets involving passwords and private keys so how'd the parent think you could have access to such privacy.

We can guess as much as we want, but in the end it may just be a wallet that contains nothing. The man was curious and downloaded the BTC wallet, after some time he apparently deleted it and the wallet file remained. It was a very different time than today with a lot of doubt in BTC, and about seventy times less price than today.

this is also the first thing that came to my mind, keeping the old wallet in his desktop, it means OP's friend is holding something, it's possible that he has an investment held there. When it comes to our investments, we usually don't even inform family members because they are considered as confidential things for me. The situation is difficult if the sudden disappearance of a person and then the investments or properties are not left to the families, it is quite difficult to recover especially since there is no other lead and there is no consent from the owner.

I guess you are right and it was mentioned that op had explained to his friend’s parents what it was and what could it hold. I hope they understood it properly so that it doesn’t fireback towards op in the end.

They could be totally clueless about it and lose everything their son had worked up for. That would not only be a shame but also disrespect to the deceased, in my opinion.

My condolences for your friend, COVID really hits the best of us in the worst way possible. Regards to your dilemma, I think that you're probably better off with just keeping it for yourself but make some form of condition with your friend's parents that if you ever find something from it or you've found a way to access that wallet, they're entitled to the contents depending on how you were able to get it, that's the thing that will matter the most, it's not weird that your friend doesn't have the access for that wallet on the computer, it would be somewhere that's not in that computer, of that I'm sure of, maybe try to look for other stuff that might be a potential hiding place.

He was silent. But maybe it was just an introduction to Bitcoin, and that’s why, after 8 years, you haven’t heard any stories from him? However, I just thought, What could I do in this situation? If you are not competent in the matter of file recovery, do not rush; try to be careful and act carefully. If his parents trust you to look at your friend's computer, then they trust his personal story, and therefore you should not spoil their opinion of you. However, I would not reassure parents in advance that you can find some amount of bitcoins in a friend’s wallet, since older people can think a lot if the result is negative, deciding on their own that you want to deceive them. But if you find it, it would be a very decent thing to cash out and give away what rightfully belongs to your parents. I don’t think any normal person wouldn’t want to do this for their loved ones in case of an accident.

This is nothing strange, considering that the wallet is from 2013, it is possible that your friend invested some money in BTC then and completely forgot about it. Besides, it is not advisable to talk about such things, and maybe he was aware of that.

Even if the wallet is an empty wallet then what is the harm in checking in it ?
If there are some coins in it then you can just intimate his parents about it, they will just be more than happy about it.
Even if it is empty then just consider it as your duty that you are doing for your friend.
What would you have wanted if you were in the same situation i.e. would you have wanted your friend to check out your wallet ?

No sadly ne never talked about it or mentioned anything in regard to crypto. That is what it makes it strange. His parents are in late 70s and not really technically "educated" so until I told them what it was they never actually heard about Bitcoin.
Unfortunately he was the only child, never  married, no kids, and last girlfriend he had was late 10.years ago.
At the moment it is just a project if I get access great if not well I won't lose my sleep over it.
I just wanted to know if anyone had any idea what do to because it kinda hit me hard even though friend was never really a talkative person and kept to himself so that could be the reason if he did had some coins he never mentioned it.

I'm really sorry about your friend, i know how hard it is.

About the wallet, maybe you could get the password from the web browser on his computer, as you know some people save their passwords on the web browsers (which is a damn terrible practice, but a lot of users do it), and maybe one of those passwords were used for the wallet too. That's what i would do, at least is a way to try to recover that wallet. I hope this information helps and i wish you good luck with the process.

I'm really not sure. I will ask parents during weekend to check again, perhaps there are some hidden files for which I didn't looked for.
Thanks for the link.

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It is wallet.dat for early 2013..not really big file, some 70-80kb of I remember correctly. Will have to check when I get back home.

I don't plan the send it, unless it proves to be empty, perhaps someone could use old wallet.

Thanks for that. I will check that link as well.

First of all did your friend tell you he owns some amount of Bitcoin Before he died? or in any way tell his parents and siblings about his Bitcoin holdings, This way you will be able know where to begin with because these are things you have to be certain about so you don't end up wasting a whole lot of time seeking nothing. When this is ascertained, now this gives you the courage to do whatever you can and it will take to try to recover or get access to the wallet. His parents should also help you in checking some of his files, if by chance he wrote down his key phrases somewhere on a paper and this will make the whole process even easier for you.

You may not be far from the truth, if op's friend wanted someone to know about his bitcoin wallet he would have related it either to his parents or someone else.
These questions need to be considered so as not to go against a friend's wish.

But if it's with the consent of his parents you can go ahead, they still have the right to take decision for their son but the unlocking should be done in their presence (the parents) also following the legit way of unlocking the wallet.