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Topic: I JUST GOT UNBANNED!!!!!!!!!! (Read 1937 times)

legendary
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I'm not just any shaman, I'm a Sha256man
August 30, 2011, 06:32:49 AM
#30
Well, I guess you're not going to work from my hint Sad

So your claiming that 1/0 dosen't = undefined
No, I was saying exactly that 1/0 = undefined.  I was being cute.

Trying to define a "set of all sets" leads to a paradox, since it must contain its own power set, whose cardinality is strictly greater than its own.  So to avoid being able to define such paradoxical sets in set theory, you need this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zermelo%E2%80%93Fraenkel_set_theory#3._Axiom_schema_of_specification_.28also_called_the_axiom_schema_of_separation_or_of_restricted_comprehension.29

Notice from the link what the "ask Russell" hint meant now?
Yeah i've read the before..... but i didn't understand it until we had this whole 1 divided by zero conversation... that just blew my mind
sr. member
Activity: 461
Merit: 251
August 30, 2011, 05:20:29 AM
#29
Well, I guess you're not going to work from my hint Sad

So your claiming that 1/0 dosen't = undefined
No, I was saying exactly that 1/0 = undefined.  I was being cute.

Trying to define a "set of all sets" leads to a paradox, since it must contain its own power set, whose cardinality is strictly greater than its own.  So to avoid being able to define such paradoxical sets in set theory, you need this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zermelo%E2%80%93Fraenkel_set_theory#3._Axiom_schema_of_specification_.28also_called_the_axiom_schema_of_separation_or_of_restricted_comprehension.29

Notice from the link what the "ask Russell" hint meant now?
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1003
I'm not just any shaman, I'm a Sha256man
August 30, 2011, 03:41:10 AM
#28
So your claiming that 1/0 dosen't = undefined
You have came up with the conclusion that The set of all sets equal 1/0?
How so?
I mean if you have nothing... how do you divide the set?
Unless both 1 and 0 mean the same thing in this context....
sr. member
Activity: 461
Merit: 251
August 30, 2011, 03:25:18 AM
#27
Everyone = the whole of all sets

The set of all sets = 1
The set of all sets = 1/0
is that a one divded by zero or its just 1/0?
It's a one divided by zero.  Get it?  If not, ask Russell.
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1003
I'm not just any shaman, I'm a Sha256man
August 30, 2011, 02:40:12 AM
#26
Everyone = the whole of all sets

The set of all sets = 1
The set of all sets = 1/0
is that a one divded by zero or its just 1/0?
full member
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Merit: 100
Give him a mask and he will tell you the truth.
August 30, 2011, 01:50:27 AM
#25

That's why we should gather up all the intelligent people by screening all the people in the world, and then we find a chain of uninhabited islands and set up camp. Cheesy
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greenland? i heard summer is coming soon there Cheesy
sr. member
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Merit: 251
August 30, 2011, 12:12:54 AM
#24
Everyone = the whole of all sets

The set of all sets = 1
The set of all sets = 1/0
member
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Merit: 10
August 29, 2011, 02:34:40 AM
#23
Cool, i now know why you got banned  Cheesy

yeh, I'm not an anarchist.
XD

political ideologies don't concern me much.
full member
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Merit: 100
August 29, 2011, 01:22:50 AM
#22
Cool, i now know why you got banned  Cheesy
newbie
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Merit: 0
August 28, 2011, 09:30:01 PM
#21
Since non-violent anarchy is not possible among humans you could say 'anarchy' as a concept is impossible.
Humans (as a wider group) can't live without social cohesion, hierarchy and power structures.

If those are lacking, the void will be overtaken instantly by the most ruthless group of people.
Somalia is a living example of a government void filled with gunmen and warlords.

That's why we should gather up all the intelligent people by screening all the people in the world, and then we find a chain of uninhabited islands and set up camp. Cheesy

So you think this a characteristic only present in unintelligent humans?  Furthermore, what are your qualifications for intelligent?  Education level, IQ tests, personal wealth?

Obviously, intelligence can come in many forms. That's why we would elect two or three of the wisest/smartest/and most philosophical people to screen the others. Problem solved. Cheesy
full member
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August 28, 2011, 07:53:07 PM
#20
Since non-violent anarchy is not possible among humans you could say 'anarchy' as a concept is impossible.
Humans (as a wider group) can't live without social cohesion, hierarchy and power structures.

If those are lacking, the void will be overtaken instantly by the most ruthless group of people.
Somalia is a living example of a government void filled with gunmen and warlords.

That's why we should gather up all the intelligent people by screening all the people in the world, and then we find a chain of uninhabited islands and set up camp. Cheesy

So you think this a characteristic only present in unintelligent humans?  Furthermore, what are your qualifications for intelligent?  Education level, IQ tests, personal wealth?
member
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Merit: 10
August 28, 2011, 07:08:02 PM
#19
You guys can build your own thrones by mine if you want to be kings too. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1003
I'm not just any shaman, I'm a Sha256man
August 28, 2011, 05:43:53 PM
#18
I think puzzeles solved the mystery! Cheesy Tongue
That does sound like a grand idea tho.....
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
August 28, 2011, 04:12:54 PM
#17
Since non-violent anarchy is not possible among humans you could say 'anarchy' as a concept is impossible.
Humans (as a wider group) can't live without social cohesion, hierarchy and power structures.

If those are lacking, the void will be overtaken instantly by the most ruthless group of people.
Somalia is a living example of a government void filled with gunmen and warlords.

That's why we should gather up all the intelligent people by screening all the people in the world, and then we find a chain of uninhabited islands and set up camp. Cheesy
member
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Merit: 10
August 28, 2011, 02:47:01 PM
#16
Everyone = the whole of all sets

In that case no.

Anarchism is on par with the idea of perfection, can never achieved but is sought continually.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
August 28, 2011, 11:33:02 AM
#15
Since non-violent anarchy is not possible among humans you could say 'anarchy' as a concept is impossible.
Humans (as a wider group) can't live without social cohesion, hierarchy and power structures.

If those are lacking, the void will be overtaken instantly by the most ruthless group of people.
Somalia is a living example of a government void filled with gunmen and warlords.
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
August 28, 2011, 09:20:49 AM
#14
So you would agree that everyone has enough self control to run an anarchist society?

Actually, there was an entire community that lived in a socialist anarchy-like environment a hundred-or-so years ago. Meaning everyone put an equal part toward living with no law and no order.

I read a book on it, written by a guy named Giovanni Baldelli who wrote the book Social Anarchism, a very good read. Perhaps it would interest you.

How does this community defend against a gang of outside looters/pillagers which is heavily armed and trained to kill?

Well, you see, that's why the community is no more. With the way humans are, a true non-violent anarchistic society is but a utopia, just a dream.
sr. member
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Merit: 251
August 28, 2011, 09:18:23 AM
#13
So you would agree that everyone has enough self control to run an anarchist society?

Actually, there was an entire community that lived in a socialist anarchy-like environment a hundred-or-so years ago. Meaning everyone put an equal part toward living with no law and no order.

I read a book on it, written by a guy named Giovanni Baldelli who wrote the book Social Anarchism, a very good read. Perhaps it would interest you.

How does this community defend against a gang of outside looters/pillagers which is heavily armed and trained to kill?
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
August 28, 2011, 09:11:09 AM
#12
Everyone = the whole of all sets

The set of all sets = 1
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
August 28, 2011, 09:00:22 AM
#11
So you would agree that everyone has enough self control to run an anarchist society?

Actually, there was an entire community that lived in a socialist anarchy-like environment a hundred-or-so years ago. Meaning everyone put an equal part toward living with no law and no order.

I read a book on it, written by a guy named Giovanni Baldelli who wrote the book Social Anarchism, a very good read. Perhaps it would interest you.
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