Topic: I lost my bitcoin - page 3. (Read 1513 times)

Good luck with that! Accepting reality is easier though.

Look at wallet.dat my money they have to pay me
See reply No https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7442
Looks like my money belongs to this member
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bytemaster-611
Is this person alive
The amount is very small, 56 dollars
I want him to tell me the truth

He should have used the quote-button:
The quote comes from this topic: Bounty for Bitcoin Animated Movie [won]. this matches what I wrote here.

It's not your money. It never was.
It's as if you paid someone $56 for the gold in Fort Knox. But the guy you paid doesn't own Fort Knox. You got scammed. That's all there is to it.

See this post.
I can't really understand why khamisi9 copy-pasted that post here.


Edit:
See this post too.
The address comes from mybitcoin. (I don't know whether this service exists now or not).

Edit 2:
Seems that mybitcoin was a custodial service [1, 2]. So, no one should have access to the private key of the address in question.

You mean $56? You're not making any sense.

I don't trust you. Are you begging for Bitcoin on an address that received 8819 BTC in the past? Signing a message from that address might make your story about "investing" more credible.

What does bytemaster have to do with this?
Update: see below. @khamisi9: please use the quote button to avoid confusion.

Without bullying here to enrich the knowledge
ok
mt gox had 850,000 bitcoins then stolen and 200,000 bitcoins recovered
I don't understand that I never found my money
I only write for information
I know that lost bitcoins will never come back
I share with you here because your forum is specialized in Bitcoin
Regarding mt gox, you will not return it to me because I did not file a bankruptcy lawsuit for the company

The government does not want the unknown

Do you know that

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My dear, I found this on your site and my money has been diverted from it
Check out some Bitcoin transfers

I know I'm new here, but I personally invest a lot of time/energy into bitcoin. So, if you trust me, you can send pledge money to this address: 1NLPqEyWo9HzPmXG2H8uGG4NBFCV31NarD

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bytemaster-611


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Most people aren't aware of this - I think that probably a large % of people that use BTC think that they are "hiding" away their money in the blockchain (so as to not be found by anyone) but they forget the fact that they've used a centralized exchange with KYC procedures to buy/sell the BTC/other crypto along the way. This is specially true regarding newcomers that arrive to the scene by means of news being spread on the social networks about blockchain and aren't really aware of how traceable they can be if they so desire to use these services - after the first purchase it's just a matter of following the trace to whoever transactions they do in the future (not talking about employing mixers into the equation since most people (average John's) aren't even aware of their existence).

Even in the 4 companies that you've linked o_e_l_e_o, we can see that the biggest entity that paid them was IRS itself (except for Coinbase case where he was the second biggest one). Now, more than ever, we should really push people to try their best to make their transactions on P2P networks where KYC is non-existent. Whenever I find myself arguing with my friends - more during peak prices of BTC - I always deter them from using centralized exchanges in favor of non-centralized ones although the fight is uneven as these are always less known to the general audience and they end up thinking that those services are "less" trustful than the likes of Coinbase, Kraken, etc ...

It's not the beginning by any means.

https://www.usaspending.gov/keyword_search/chainalysis
https://www.usaspending.gov/keyword_search/ciphertrace
https://www.usaspending.gov/keyword_search/coinbase
https://www.usaspending.gov/keyword_search/elliptic

IRS, FBI, DEA, ICE, CBP, SEC, CFTC, Secret Service, even the Navy, Air Force, and Army. The list goes on. 100s of contracts from dozens of agencies. There is barely a US government agency or department which hasn't paid for the services of one or more blockchain analysis companies.

I had almost forgotten of that side of Coinbase o_e_l_e_o, thank you for reminding me of it! I think it goes along the idea that governments will do anything to trace whatever kind of "money" (as a concept) that they can. Even Coinbase itself has its eyes[1] on both IRS and DEA as potential clients for their analytical software even though they've just signed[2] a contract with Homeland Security[2] this may just be the beginning of it all[2][3]. Despite being "masked" as Homeland Security we are able to see[4] that the agencies behind it, at least for now, are both U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and U.S. Secret Service (USSS) so who knows what they are really looking/going after...

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[1]https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/71261/coinbase-is-selling-blockchain-analytics-software-to-the-us-secret-service
[2]https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/09/20/coinbase-signs-deal-with-homeland-security-to-provide-analytics-software/
[3]https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70US0920C70090044_7009_-NONE-_-NONE-

The investor's money is lost when you sent it to a scammer. You never owned the coins in questions.

Slightly off topic, but if this is happening with a free block explorer which anyone can use, imagine how much more is happening with companies like Coinbase Analytics which are bringing in tens of millions of dollars in contracts from the government to spy on addresses?

Yeah I suppose it had something to due with that, the fact that it amazes me is that either someone manually tagged the account or then the "system" behind it is crawnling the web search for the (first?) mention of that address somewhere in the Internet. Spooky stuff.
I've used Crystal Explorer[1] and if we assume the information is correct then the owner of that address is a miner pool called Eligius. If we look up for it[2] we learn than pool was founded by Luke Dashjr[3], one of Bitcoin Core developers. If you want to spend some time expanding the transactions associated you'll see that some BTC was eventually sent to Mybitcoin[4] - an online wallet - and eventually was sent back to Eligius pool (the list goes on and on). Point is, just move on to another topic of your life OP, admit that you've been scammed and be very much autistic whenever the same situation appears to you (let's hope not).

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[1]https://explorer.crystalblockchain.com/visualization/new/18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc
[2]https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/Luke_Dashjr
[3]https://github.com/luke-jr
[4]https://www.mybitcoin.com/

The investor's money is lost when the company goes bankrupt

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There are rumors about the settlement of a bankrupt company, does it affect the decline of Bitcoin?

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That address hasn't been "Active" (ie. spent coins) since 2011. It was most likely a deposit address on one of the old exchanges like Mt. Gox or something. Mt. Gox started in July 2010 too... which would line up with when you say you sent the bitcoin to the "investor"

It turned out to be true that it will take you a while to figure out what really happened, because you keep claiming that you bought Bitcoin, when in fact you didn't buy anything but a false promise. To understand what everyone else is trying to explain to you at all, you need to learn some basics - for starters I advise you to try to understand the difference between a public address and a private key, and if you can figure it out, you may stop chasing the ghosts of the past.


No one can know whose address it is if that person wants to remain anonymous, understand that the BTC address is not the same as the bank account.

Looks like my money belongs to this whale that was mentioned in this forum
Not for fundraising
Do you know whale
He collected more than 30,000 bitcoins

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Who knows this whale
18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc

Yes, as pooya87 mentioned, that address seems to have been first mentioned on this forum in some whale hunter thread back in 2013. I don't think there are any other connections to bitcointalk.org.

Unfortunately neither site has any explanation on their "branding" system but in my experience from similar block explorers that "brand" addresses like this is that they search the internet for places where the addresses were mentioned (usually for the first time) and use that as the reference. The one on bitinfocharts has about 3 hundred addresses in it!

You don't seem to be understanding what people are telling you.

You were scammed! You are not going to get any money or any bitcoins. You sent $56 to a scammer. They tricked you into sending them money. They were never going to give you any bitcoins, ever!

Actually you didn't lost your bitcoin OP - you never had any to begin with. This kind of scam is always being reported in the forum - and other social gatherings such as Reddit - and will probably never end stop into tricking people that are less aware of how BTC works.  Even if someone did took your 56 dollars, bought BTC with them and started giving you dividends they would never just send you an address for you to "watch" the dividends flux, they would at least ask you for an address of which you control the private keys. The fact that he/she instead sent you an address (or two) only shows that whoever talked with you knew more about BTC/blockchain than you and took advantage of it. The fact that both addresses hold BTC that haven't been touched for years reveals that whoever gave you those addresses never really had any control of them.

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On a not so related discussion for OP, does anyone understand why this address to where OP paid - 18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc - appears to be related to our forum? Whenever I run it on BitInfoCharts[1] or OXT[2], our forum name appears related to it... I wonder if more experienced users could shed a light on it.

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[1]https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc
[2]https://oxt.me/address/18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc

The amount I invested came from clicking on the second ad, the amount is only 56 dollars, a very little compared to what the price of Bitcoin has reached, but tracking the blockchain will find that it reached these addresses
And the story that you mentioned for the first address, please send the link, and then my wallet before distribution reached more than 8500

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If you have knowledge of who sells bitcoin in 2010 accepting payment through Payoneer company, tell me that you also know the platforms that support the sale of bitcoin, as on these dates they were fought and shunned by everyone