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Topic: I love politics and I want to be clean politician! - page 2. (Read 325 times)

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There are clean politicians but for every country, there will be citizens that might consider the good one as the bad ones and vice versa.

You really need to make yourself as a good example. Just because politics is dirty, it doesn't mean that everyone there is dirty. As said, there are a few of those that have the heart for public service.

Saying that you'll become a president someday is ambitious but good luck!
Their are still few politicians in our political system just that most times the bad politicians try to out shine the good politicians,  knowing fully well that if good politicians get into sensitive positions their wont be any benefit for corrupt politicians. It is very difficult to see good politicians at the peek of government , if it has been so easy for good politicians to be at the top I think we won't be having the bad politicians who not competent for work and have nothing to offer.
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You have just spoken like the conventional politicians we have in our various countries, so well endowed with sweet words and promises made yet undone after being given the sit of power. Every politicians by there words had a good mindset at first when they haven't tasted power not until they did that was when their real mindset whisked out be it good or bad. Like the political scientist will say, "power corrupt but absolute power corrupts absolutely". So let wait until in the future you hold on to power then we can really say by your performance that you do have a good mindset in politics as a politician. But for now, am in doubt.
No good leader will announce his own good will, only the citizens can attest to whether you are good or not and with the way you lead that is what makes a good leader, because ops just made a statement base on his feelings about himself, not the way other perceive him if he ever becomes a political leader.

-One fact with the need to settle with is, politics is a dirty game so at that 90% of its players must play dirty since the system is designed to make them so, the high rate of corruption in our various countries has proven that no politician is free of corruption so ops should wait he gets that chance to lead to see how his ability could fight against his corruption system.
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You have just spoken like the conventional politicians we have in our various countries, so well endowed with sweet words and promises made yet undone after being given the sit of power. Every politicians by there words had a good mindset at first when they haven't tasted power not until they did that was when their real mindset whisked out be it good or bad. Like the political scientist will say, "power corrupt but absolute power corrupts absolutely". So let wait until in the future you hold on to power then we can really say by your performance that you do have a good mindset in politics as a politician. But for now am in doubt.
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I’m going to go ahead and disagree with everyone and say that it is not possible to be a clean politician. This is because the machine behind you will not have the funding and support of industries that would prefer to have a bought and paid-for politician over somebody who might share similar beliefs. I’ve seen corruption even in my local Home Owners Association. I can’t even begin to comprehend the corruption involved with elected government officials.
You are right, corruption has eaten deep into our political system and the foundation and structure of most countries' political system is designed in such that even if the politician wants to be corrupt free the system will force them to, this is no different from the individual level where corruption is glaring in all the dealings.

-So even if the ops said he wants to be a good politician the possibility of him becoming worst than the current leader is still there, but then if he has a good structural foundation the level of the corruption may become small and unnoticeable this depends on the country the ops is from.
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I do not have much experience with how politics work to where as though I can say yes or no, in my opinion, YES. But, I personally believe there are dark forces that exist that attempt to create division in many places. So with that being said, you would have to not only be clean, but strong, because a lot of evil politicians are doing the work of the dark forces, which DO NOT want unity.
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Is it possible to become a clean politician? I really love politics and sometimes I feel I can do better than our leaders on sits. I don't how its sounds to you but do you think if I have the opportunity I will be worster than my current leaders who concerns is to consume the wealth and resource of the country. I can be a better politician and I must make a mark. I pray you support me.

In few years to come I should be recognised in my country as one of the youngest ambitious and creating president my country ever have. I want to prove to people that life is a function of mindset and everybody have good mindset but only few use it.
I still have to laugh over this anytime I look at this message. What does op mean by clean politician? Like he is not going to put his hands in blood shading or corruption? This is the way of the politicians and if you say that you are not going to follow their way of life fighting for the seat with all separation then you must be ready to keep contesting for election Everytime until you win. Most politicians want the seat of power as fast as possible that is why they they will not mind commiting blood shed just to get what they want as quick as possible.
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Dreaming of a clean politician is like dreaming of a world free of wars and conflicts. You will feel that this is possible, but neither reality nor history has recorded that this happened even once.
It would have been better to talk about the model of a successful politician. As there is no clear meaning for the concepts of "clean politician" and "dirty politician". But in general, there is a collective concept around a clean concept, meaning a person who is not related to suspicions of corruption of any kind. But this in itself requires effort to resist pressures, temptations and even threats because in the field of politics there are no limits to anything.
If you ever see a politician talking about integrity and morals, make sure that he is a failed politician or that he is a whore claiming honor.
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In few years to come I should be recognised in my country as one of the youngest ambitious and creating president my country ever have.
Is this going to be an easy thing to do? If so, how you're going to do it in my country even in the lowest position in the government, it's hard to be recognized unless you've started very popularly already. But I guess you've got some plan in doing it for you to be recognized with that title.

I want to prove to people that life is a function of mindset and everybody have good mindset but only few use it.
Well, this could be a personal reason but based on what I can see from it. It's far from being a politician that's different from the others. But I guess you'll just start from there if ever you reach that point of your life that you'd be elected by your constituents.
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In few years to come I should be recognised in my country as one of the youngest ambitious and creating president my country ever have. I want to prove to people that life is a function of mindset and everybody have good mindset but only few use it.
Good to have such pure political ambitions.

I hope you will continue this if you have the opportunity to reach the dream of being the youngest ambitious president in your country, because as I know most politicians are clean at first and then that changes later either because of greed for more power and money or as a result of strong pressures by corrupt politicians .
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Today, some leaders have taken politics to such a level that now when people hear the name of politics, they say corruption and anarchy. Political pressure comes from many quarters if one conducts his activities like an ideal politician after taking oath. As a result, even if he wanted to manage politics well, he failed. If you want to change such a system of politics, you have to do it from a very big position, then it is never possible to change the political system from the grassroots level. But since you have made such a wish, I congratulate you. Hope you will be a successful politician in future. But never compromise with injustice always follow the path of justice and take politics to such a level that people see you as an idol.

This is similar to my view in terms of a democratic system of politics. Politics is much
much bigger than one leader, or political party, there is a massive political machine
at various levels of importance.

That machine is made up of the leader, his political cabinet, the advisors who
are specialists in various fields, the political party and national members, the civil
servants at various levels right down to local politics and then the opposing politicians.

To come in as a new leader with a new team and try move that machine is very challenging
and while trying to keep "everyone" happy means there has to be compromises and
deals made in order to get certain hurdles crossed and  jobs and targets done.
I think it's impossible to get everything done without doing "deals" but that shouldnt mean
becoming corrupt to only think of whats in it for yourself.

I’m going to go ahead and disagree with everyone and say that it is not possible to be a clean politician. This is because the machine behind you will not have the funding and support of industries that would prefer to have a bought and paid for politician over somebody who might share similar beliefs. I’ve seen corruption even in my local Home Owners Association. I can’t even begin to comprehend the corruption involved with elected government officials.

And then of course as OgNasty says there are the exterior pressures from lobby groups
and industry leaders who generally wont see anything wrong in trying to corrupt
a political leader in order to progress their own situation....generally speaking.
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Is it possible to become a clean politician? I really love politics and sometimes I feel I can do better than our leaders on sits. I don't how its sounds to you but do you think if I have the opportunity I will be worster than my current leaders who concerns is to consume the wealth and resource of the country. I can be a better politician and I must make a mark. I pray you support me.

In few years to come I should be recognised in my country as one of the youngest ambitious and creating president my country ever have. I want to prove to people that life is a function of mindset and everybody have good mindset but only few use it.

Although all politicians cannot be trusted but there is a significant difference between politics is developing world and developed societies. Politicians in developing nations like Africa a power drunk and can do anything ranging from killing, intimidation, electoral malpractices, etc to grab political power. These politicians are also sophisticatedly corrupt and don't care about the welfare of the citizens of the country.

Politics in developed world is refined to some extent. Elections might not be free and fair but atleast there is no violence. Most politicians voluntarily resign when they lose the confidence of the populace. But It will take only violence or even civil war for an African leaders to relinquish power. They will always amend the constitution so that they can rule till they die.

In summary, I will never be a politician in any African country but politics in some developing countries attracts me.
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The chances of you becoming a transparent politician depends on the country you are from and the people you find yourself with.

In my country, it is very rare to end up becoming a transparent politician because the system will corrupt your mind and reasoning. You will end up becoming a ruthless, hardened, and corrupt being like others.

Every politician you know didn't start in a day become less transparent to the people they are serving and ruling.They started little by little to become the monster you see them as today. Money and fame corrupted them
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The problem is not you been a clean politicians, the problem is depends on your co politicians, if you are clean, would they be clean just as you are? We are know in politics mostly in Nigeria, the majority always have the influencial powers in the government house and we all know majority of our Nigeria politicians are not clean, so they would fight you who is the clean politician and if you refuse to dance to their tune they will kick you out,

You as a person might have good intentions towards the citizens, but believe me this Politicians out there will definitely inluence you either by power or money,
So to me I don't really think you might be a clean Politician and work with the dirty ones because they won't give you a chance ,
You must be dirty to work with them, that's my thoughts though...
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It is absolutely possible to become a clean politician. It takes commitment, dedication, and a strong moral compass to resist the temptation of corruption and ensure that your actions are always in the best interest of the people you represent. It is admirable that you have a passion for politics and a desire to make a positive impact on your country.

However, it is important to recognize that politics is a complex and challenging field. It is not enough to simply have good intentions; you must also have the skills, knowledge, and experience to effectively lead and govern. It is also important to be realistic about the challenges and obstacles you may face, including resistance from entrenched interests and opposition from those who benefit from the status quo.

That being said, if you are truly committed to becoming a clean politician and making a positive impact on your country, there are steps you can take to achieve that goal. You can start by educating yourself on the issues facing your country and the policies that can address them. You can also get involved in local politics, volunteer for political campaigns or community organizations, and build a network of like-minded individuals who share your values and goals.

Ultimately, becoming a clean politician requires not only a strong moral compass but also a commitment to transparency, accountability, and the common good. If you are willing to put in the work and stay true to these principles, there is no reason why you cannot make a meaningful and lasting impact on your country.
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In few years to come I should be recognised in my country as one of the youngest ambitious and creating president my country ever have. I want to prove to people that life is a function of mindset and everybody have good mindset but only few use it.
Are you into politics in your country ? or are you starting your politics from this forum ? I am asking you this because of the way you sound. Your mindset is what really matters when you are serving your country. The world don't see politics as serving the people anymore,instead they see it that they are king over the people and don't care about the welfare of their citizens anymore. It is easy said than done, for anybody to be a good leader,he must put God first in his life, so that God can give him the leadership wisdom to do things right and not to be carried away with power intoxication,if not you will end up loving money and abandon your citizens.
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Someone will become a clean and good politician if he wasn't asking for the position he is currently in because when someone doesn't want to be a leader but the people ask him to be the one who leads them, it means he is the real deal and he is the only one who is fit to be in that position and when you read histories, these are most of the successful leaders and the man who is now added to the history is no other than President Rodrigo Duterte. If the person will campaign and beg the people to vote for him, that's a crook and I think no one in the history of the world became a clean politician by doing that.
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but do you think if I have the opportunity I will be worster than my current leaders who concerns is to consume the wealth and resource of the country.
In few years to come I should be recognised in my country as one of the youngest ambitious and creating president my country ever have.
There is an app called grammarly or simply you can use it on Web. This will help correct some of your syntax and make your post more appealing. Many of us would be patient to read and reply but some native English speakers might be offended and not read your posts.

In my country, politics is regarded as a dirty game and I don't know how that concept was planted in people such that there is not place for honesty, trustworthiness and dependability in politics anymore. I doubt good people have good chances of doing well in politics.
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There's nothing bad about having interest in politics but the problem that lies there is with those you will be dealing with, because they have been there already before you and would like to dictate for you what to do as long as you once request for their help before joining into politics, everyone knows that godfatherism is a bad practice that sentiment government into different segment base on selfish interest, you will need to consider all this and run a free and fare politics without their help in other for you to have say.
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everyone loves politics,but fear of blood shed scared people away, but not all politicians are unclean. they are good politicians in the game. the reason good people stay away from politics is because of the bad ones. but that is not good enough , good people should take the central stage of politics to silent the evil ones. when the good ones fail to participate in politics they will be ruled by mediocre.  
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